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Old 05-08-2013, 03:41 PM   #8566
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MotoZ HT Dessert tread profile compacts loose earth for excellent traction, holds off camber sections very well, has a very good rubber compound, and will outlast a 908. The 140 is an excellent profile for the 690, but if some one has a 130, it will work fine. When I sold my 690, my dessert HT had 1800+ miles of road & hard rocky off road use and there was plenty of tread left. Compound holds well on asphalt too. Cant say enough about them. Only problem is that importer is back ordered. The next shipment wont be here for a month. Once they get the container unpacked, they will go pretty fast since there are a back orders to fill.

pics: http://www.motoz.com.au/shop_prods.asp?CatID=166
What sort of pressure do you run in the rear offroad ... ?
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:11 PM   #8567
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'Bout time for a tar thread

The initial question was about brands and widths.

I would go for the 140 over 120's for the 690.

I am a dedicated fan of the Motoz HT Desert and is my #1 tire choice for rear when on/off and off road:




I agree that the HT Desert front is not too good on loose stuff ...I like the Pirelli MT 18 (one of the Scorpion family) for the front. It is rated DOT and heavy duty case. I get good mileage on them w/ mixed surfaces:



I have heard mixed reviews about the Heidenau front for off-road (dirt, gravel, mud)...but folks like the H. rear for longevity, but not demanding off-road applications....that's where the HT Desert shines....
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:20 PM   #8568
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Since our 690's eat tires, why not opt for least expensive? The best low cost tires I've found are Michelin T63. Front and rear, $140 total, including shipping from Motorcycle Super Store. What's your low cost best?
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:28 PM   #8569
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Since our 690's eat tires, why not opt for least expensive? The best low cost tires I've found are Michelin T63. Front and rear, $140 total, including shipping from Motorcycle Super Store. What's your low cost best?
I've just fitted a T63 to the rear of my bike for an upcoming ride. It only comes in 130 and am hoping to get 3500km out of it. It was $130 here in Australia which is similiar to the D606.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:28 PM   #8570
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Since our 690's eat tires, why not opt for least expensive? The best low cost tires I've found are Michelin T63. Front and rear, $140 total, including shipping from Motorcycle Super Store. What's your low cost best?
Strange reasoning IMO ...

The different sorts of tyres perform completely differently - both in terms of how they handle different sorts of terrain, and how well they wear on different bikes ...

I haven't found that the 690 eats tyres excessively - slightly more than the bigger enduros, and much less than the 950/990 ...

Might as well choose tyres that do the job best ...
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:51 PM   #8571
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The different sorts of tyres perform completely differently - both in terms of how they handle different sorts of terrain, and how well they wear on different bikes ...

I haven't found that the 690 eats tyres excessively - slightly more than the bigger enduros, and much less than the 950/990 ...
Of course, I agree. Note I didn't say cheapest tires, but best, low cost tires. For example, a Dunlop 908 rear is $205 in the states while a T63 is $72. The 908 is arguably better in most situations, but 3 times (almost) better?
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:16 PM   #8572
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Of course, I agree. Note I didn't say cheapest tires, but best, low cost tires. For example, a Dunlop 908 rear is $205 in the states while a T63 is $72. The 908 is arguably better in most situations, but 3 times (almost) better?
I have 400 miles on my T63 from my last ride and I think that I might get another 600 out of it. The 690 will use a tire up in about 1000 miles from my personal experience. I have tried a Moto-Z and it was changed out with about a 1000 miles on it as well.

This is the price with pay for this
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:56 PM   #8573
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Sooo me getting 2K out of my MT21 is phenom then

Its all about me getting a new tire for the weekend. IF I order from my stealer b4 noon tomorrow, I have the tire in my hand the next day at noon. No shipping costs and they give me 20% off.

I have a Pirelli Scorpion MX XT (non DOT) on my 520 EXC, it used to get a lot of road time and the tire still looks great - wish they made the same tire in a DOT. I did find a Scorpion DOT tire, but had different tread (was considered best DOT off road tire by Dirt Bike Mag)

Love the look of the Tractionator - that will prob be my next tire choice. The 208 is a great tire too, heard great things, but that price Im sure it lasts very well, but I just cant pry the benjamins out of my pocket for THAT tire.

Its going to be a bad year for me buying tires My 2010 Avalanche needs new 20" skins and my wifes Jeep needs 33's + a set of winter tires
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #8574
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Sooo me getting 2K out of my MT21 is phenom then
No, I regularly get 3000km (1800 miles) out of D606 rear - and I'm probably letting them go a little earlier than some might.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:39 PM   #8575
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No, I regularly get 3000km (1800 miles) out of D606 rear - and I'm probably letting them go a little earlier than some might.
My MT21 was marginal last Sunday till I decided to play flat track racer on the gravel roads all day. Got back as was like Whoa !! ITs very spent now

Time for a Kenda 270 I put one on my 88 XT 600, rode it close to 10K in 8 yrs and was one there when I sold it in decent shape. It sucked all over, wasnt good at anything but road use
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:10 PM   #8576
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Any pics of that 140/80 rear ...

Consider the 130/90 ... ?


Changing a flat this weekend in the Canyonlands. Bad tube split on the inside, the tire is awesome, 600+ dirt miles and a bit of pavement, just starting to round the corners. This was a torture test, rocks, sand, more rocks, catus, a little bit of everything, plus some 90 mph runs in the washes. Good times!
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:35 PM   #8577
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'Bout time for a tar thread

The initial question was about brands and widths.

I would go for the 140 over 120's for the 690.

I am a dedicated fan of the Motoz HT Desert and is my #1 tire choice for rear when on/off and off road:




I agree that the HT Desert front is not too good on loose stuff ...I like the Pirelli MT 18 (one of the Scorpion family) for the front. It is rated DOT and heavy duty case. I get good mileage on them w/ mixed surfaces:



I have heard mixed reviews about the Heidenau front for off-road (dirt, gravel, mud)...but folks like the H. rear for longevity, but not demanding off-road applications....that's where the HT Desert shines....

Ged, any advice on where to get these tires in Canada? or are you shipping them in?

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Old 05-08-2013, 08:43 PM   #8578
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Ged, any advice on where to get these tires in Canada? or are you shipping them in?

Thanks,

Richard
Imperial motorsports in Burnaby would bring them in for me and they have a 20% discount on tires. The Motoz are in the motovan catalog so most dealers in Van should beable to get them for you
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:20 PM   #8579
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Imperial motorsports in Burnaby would bring them in for me and they have a 20% discount on tires. The Motoz are in the motovan catalog so most dealers in Van should beable to get them for you

Thanks for that, i will make a few calls tomorrow.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:16 PM   #8580
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Ged, any advice on where to get these tires in Canada? or are you shipping them in?

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Richard
Richard,
I have bought them in the states before but got my last one here in Kamloops from Rivercity Cycle after I told them to get some in:

http://www.rivercitycycle.com/

Call Ryan at parts (250-377-4320) and ask if they have any of the HT Deserts... tell him I told you to call....that should be good for no discount but a chuckle

Or try RTR at: http://www.rtrperformance.com/ Larry or Mike at parts ( I bought my 450 EXC and 690 from them, but Rivercity has better prices generally)....

Hey...just edited this for an update: Call International in VAncouver and they have a GREAT price:

http://www.internationalmotorsports....uctId=10917347

$144 + tax !!

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