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Old 06-12-2013, 10:36 AM   #9271
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"Looked around and found the ground connection of four wires on the right side of the tank near the top tank mounting bolts got broke off lifting the tank up."

That ground connection is very poorly done from the factory and is a problem waiting to happen if you pivot the tank up.

That is where my problem was but it was only one of the four wires and caused my instrument cluster to not work. Make sure those four wired are well grounded. I just redid the whole connection similar to what Uller did. Bike ran fine otherwise. I went through almost all of the wiring loom and everything else was in good shape after four years.

My guess is that it is the starter relay or the coil connection. The coil connection caused me some problems.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:45 AM   #9272
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Ged the fuel pump and filter are easy,however my low fuel light has not worked since I replaced the pump
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:56 AM   #9273
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Goose,
I have been in there two years ago to install the Safari tank and everything turned out ok....and Uller's site re: The Job is bookmarked and studied....
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....7&postcount=96

Bobzilla and Uller are friends (both who live too far away for me to lean on their generousity by inviting them over.... ) who have extensive experience with this task....so they will be my first 911 call...
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:00 PM   #9274
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Ged the fuel pump and filter are easy,however my low fuel light has not worked since I replaced the pump
That was another wire under the tank you were supposed to remove prior to lifting (or maybe you just didn't reconnect it....)

I know this from experience as I, too, have an nonworking low fuel light.

I wasn't thinking the last time I routed my wiring in that area and routed my low fuel sensor wire under the shock body where you can't see it.

Next time into the tank and "pop". Oh shit, what was that.......

I am resisting spending the $56 to get a new one. I do have a transparent safari tank so it isn't too much of a problem. Just have to remember to look down every now and again and then remember to actually stop for gas when it is noticed. (Don't try to drive all the way home after work on Friday night when you notice the gas is low during lunch on Friday......)
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:31 PM   #9275
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I try to always fill the tank when the odometer tripmeter tells me I have gone 1/2 way to empty (easier to do when near civilization)....them thar new-fangled reserve lights are just something else waiting to blow up
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:02 PM   #9276
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I try to always fill the tank when the odometer tripmeter tells me I have gone 1/2 way to empty (easier to do when near civilization)....them thar new-fangled reserve lights are just something else waiting to blow up
That is the hard part. My "Empty" is a huge sliding scale. Sometimes it is 225 miles. Sometimes it is 300. I don't really know anymore....

Totally depends upon the R wrist and how much time it stays in the "rearward" postion.

I basically never pass a gas station, while riding in the mountains or other remote areas, when I know that my next stop is a ridge or two away and then I have a Huge reserve to rely on.

In this part of the USA it is really hard to be able to go over 200 miles without seeing a gas station. In other areas of the world that isn't the case and I would pay much closer attention to my fuel economy and where the gas stations are. When I had the stock tank only, I definitely paid much more close attention.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:17 PM   #9277
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Clutch Slave o-ring size

Anyone have the size on the clutch slave piston o-ring.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:30 PM   #9278
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I think they all use -021 O-ring. Same slave as my 525EXC.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:37 PM   #9279
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Thanks Uller I will plug it in tonight.
Ged I went on the canyon adventure with you guys via the internet . You guys msut have had a blast.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:49 PM   #9280
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I think they all use -021 O-ring. Same slave as my 525EXC.
Thanks. I will get some AS568A-021 as well as a metric equivalent 27 x 1.5, Buna N, 70A duro, and try them both. I suspect the metric one is the correct one.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:05 PM   #9281
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690 Stator Image

Anyone have an image of the stock stator from
the 690 E (all the same P/N for 2008-2013)

Either in place or off the bike...

Looking to see if there is room for a higher
output wind on it... and hoping to avoid
having to pull mine apart to find out...

Thanks !
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:24 PM   #9282
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....Ged I went on the canyon adventure with you guys via the internet . You guys msut have had a blast.
Goose,
Yeah, Bobzilla invited me to join his posse for 9 days off-road around the Grand Canyon....I had a really good time meeting them all and enjoying the countryside. I have since invited Bob to come up to BC for a return favour later this summer.

I will let the cat out of the bag and say that Bob had threatened to sell his problematic 690 and build a Honda 500 Frankendualsport....he has dumped his 690 and is cross-breeding a DR650 with real suspension, etc.... .

The Grand Canyon story for the uninitiated (pics, story, and techno-info):
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=791319

Bob ( yellow t-shirt) In Zion w/ fuel pump, injector, regulator, whatever problem:








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Old 06-12-2013, 05:06 PM   #9283
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2010 690 Enduro Questions

A couple of question from the mechanically inexperienced if I may.

1) What is the exhaust and intake valve clearance on the 2010 690 Enduro engine?

2) I would like to grease the swing arm bearings, is it a challenge to access\remove the swingarm?

Any guidance would be much appreciated.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:17 PM   #9284
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A couple of question from the mechanically inexperienced if I may.

1) What is the exhaust and intake valve clearance on the 2010 690 Enduro engine?

2) I would like to grease the swing arm bearings, is it a challenge to access\remove the swingarm?

Any guidance would be much appreciated.
1) .07 to .13 mm

2) It can be done. I wouldn't worry about it till you rebuild the suspension. I did my 2008 with about 30,000 miles about 2 months ago. Some of the bearings have loose needles so if you aren't careful, you might lose them. So unless you are going through lots of water or have reason to think you don't have grease in there, I wouldn't worry too muchb. Other than that its pretty straight forward.
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:12 AM   #9285
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MT43 Trials Tyre on 690

I put an MT43 trials tyre (DOT approved) on the 690 as a bit of an experiment ...

At about 400km, it didn't look as though it would get me home from that ride - central knobs flaking, and a general trackside thumbs down ...

At that point I was running a little over 20psi (we had some section on tar, as well as a fair bit of hard gravel), and I think this was a mistake ...

Unlike a knobby, the tyre really needs to be run on all surfaces at about 10psi - this lets the whole breadth of the tyre stay on the ground - not just the central knobs ...

Having taken the plunge and lowered the pressure to about 10psi I noticed a huge improvement in both handling and knob wear - the pics below show it now at about 2,000km - really not bad considering the weight and HP of the 690, and the speeds it travels at ...

And I'd have to say that it gives the best feeling allround of any rear tyre I've tried - traction on rocks is sensational - can be squirmy on the hard gravel, but way more predictable than the D606 I've been running to date ....

Anyway, an interesting result given the generally poor prognosis at about 400km - this tyre should get me to about 3,000km, which is what I'd generally get out of a D606 - at that point I'll try another one, and this time run it from new at 10psi ...

Well the MT43 came off the 690 today, after about 3,000km of mixed terrain at 10-11psi ...

You can see from the pic below that it's pretty much shagged, but some life left ...

I'm (again) vey surprised by this tyre - not an obvious choice for a 690 - it gives a very nice feel on gravel, and great traction on rock etc - haven't tried it in deep mud ...

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