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Old 10-03-2013, 02:10 PM   #11296
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depends on what oil I am running....
For me....it depends on type of muffler bearings and their respective torque specs.

Seth, what jetting are you using now?
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:19 PM   #11297
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For me....it depends on type of muffler bearings and their respective torque specs.

Seth, what jetting are you using now?
Pretty sure I am set up with jetting for a KTM 625....The engine isnt back in the frame yet so its going to be a little before I can play with it.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:33 PM   #11298
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Seth et al,
Now....I know that sometimes I am a complete technical/mechanical cretin ....but jetting applies to carbs, not fuel injectors...n'est pas?

Or has my leg just been pulled?
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:39 PM   #11299
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Haul 'em in, Seth.... haul 'em in.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:22 PM   #11300
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:37 PM   #11301
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So what jetting do people like running on their 690's?
I just re-jetted mine. Now I can do this...

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Old 10-03-2013, 04:54 PM   #11302
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Sorry if I am becoming a broken record but, I just came across this last night while looking at suspension stuff.

I am not too familiar with the aftermarket parts for the smaller KTM's, mainly because I don't have one, so the Link Skid isn't something I immediately thought about when we were discussing the link failures that occurred lately.

Well, I found this picture very interesting.


This part is made for the "Slavens Link Skid for KTM 125,150,250,300,350,450 XC,XCF,SX,SXF"

Now lets take another look at the OEM Link for the 690, again.



Anyone notice a difference between the two? It looks to me like a much lighter, smaller bike has a substantially stronger link at the outer portions to strengthen it while the heavier 690's link is made of thinner material where the bearing race is. Why would a heavier bike that travels at much greater speeds have a weaker component in the suspension system?



Albie has been correct all along. Damn it....

I think the 690's suspension linkage is designed for road use only. The engineers didn't think to improve it when they created the Enduro Version from the Sumo version that it began as; and this is why the link on the 690 is made of thinner material than the same part for bikes that weigh close to 100 lbs. less. The engineers didn't think it would see the abuse other bike models do so they cheapened it up.

Just a theory though. Flame away.

Edit: I hadn't heard anything so, I just sent Norm Kouba an email to see where things are Re: the std. length link. I floated the idea of doing a possible Group Buy with a set number of units required. I'll let you know what I hear. And...on that note, I also sent Midwest Mountain Engineering an email to ask if there had been any progress on the Magura Clutch Lever. Anyone who has interest in either of these parts should give the respective companies a shout.

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Old 10-03-2013, 05:10 PM   #11303
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Brad,
No flaming....

The unit for the smaller bikes looks like the "profile" is more of an hourglass shape from front to back of link, so I am not sure which aspect you say is "thinner"...?
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:23 PM   #11304
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Brad,
No flaming....

The unit for the smaller bikes looks like the "profile" is more of an hourglass shape from front to back of link, so I am not sure which aspect you say is "thinner"...?
The wall thickness of the link around the bearing is thinner.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:27 PM   #11305
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Brad,
No flaming....

The unit for the smaller bikes looks like the "profile" is more of an hourglass shape from front to back of link, so I am not sure which aspect you say is "thinner"...?
I probably should have written," debate away".

I am referring to the thickness of material that is around the bearing on the L side of the link (as they are in the pictures). On the 690 link, the material is not as thick and it is uniform thickness across the link. The SX link, in the top picture, appears to be thicker in the same area as it has thickened outer edges.

I can't draw fancy arrows around pictures with this computer so, I hope that helps.

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Old 10-03-2013, 05:38 PM   #11306
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:33 PM   #11307
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I wanted to bring my bike down a bit and I am impressed with the link and the quality of it

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Old 10-03-2013, 07:34 PM   #11308
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Sorry if I am becoming a broken record but, I just came across this last night while looking at suspension stuff.

I am not too familiar with the aftermarket parts for the smaller KTM's, mainly because I don't have one, so the Link Skid isn't something I immediately thought about when we were discussing the link failures that occurred lately.

Well, I found this picture very interesting.


This part is made for the "Slavens Link Skid for KTM 125,150,250,300,350,450 XC,XCF,SX,SXF"

Now lets take another look at the OEM Link for the 690, again.



Anyone notice a difference between the two? It looks to me like a much lighter, smaller bike has a substantially stronger link at the outer portions to strengthen it while the heavier 690's link is made of thinner material where the bearing race is. Why would a heavier bike that travels at much greater speeds have a weaker component in the suspension system?



Albie has been correct all along. Damn it....

I think the 690's suspension linkage is designed for road use only. The engineers didn't think to improve it when they created the Enduro Version from the Sumo version that it began as; and this is why the link on the 690 is made of thinner material than the same part for bikes that weigh close to 100 lbs. less. The engineers didn't think it would see the abuse other bike models do so they cheapened it up.

Just a theory though. Flame away.

Edit: I hadn't heard anything so, I just sent Norm Kouba an email to see where things are Re: the std. length link. I floated the idea of doing a possible Group Buy with a set number of units required. I'll let you know what I hear. And...on that note, I also sent Midwest Mountain Engineering an email to ask if there had been any progress on the Magura Clutch Lever. Anyone who has interest in either of these parts should give the respective companies a shout.
Just for grins, I looked at the links on a 2008 690 Rally Replica and they are a different design (separate dog bones rather than a 1 piece that our bikes have). It's hard to tell from the fiche picture whether or not they thicker around the bearings.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:37 PM   #11309
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Just for grins, I looked at the links on a 2008 690 Rally Replica and they are a different design (separate dog bones rather than a 1 piece that our bikes have). It's hard to tell from the fiche picture whether or not they thicker around the bearings.
I just read this then jumped over to Facebook and I saw Lyndon Poskitt posted some photos of a new 690 Rally build he is doing. Whole Album Here

Here are a few close ups of the suspension. I'm not sure how different the links are.... It probably wouldn't work on the 690 enduro. The RR shock has a fork on the bottom that "straddles" the link.



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Old 10-03-2013, 10:42 PM   #11310
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On the phone so I can't look it up but a couple weeks ago I quoted a post by Beaney where he briefly explains how to use some rally parts to solve this issue but he also mentioned that the parts required machining and command rally prices.

I am drooling over those links in the picture above.

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