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Old 12-15-2013, 09:56 AM   #12676
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Are you still happy with the swap-any negatives?
It was a good swap. 2 hours well spent in the shop. High Interstate speeds are now much more stable. Not "640A Stable", but much much better.

At this point I think the pancake flipper sized front sail of a front fender flops wiggles and vibrates hither and yon and is the reason for the season at this point.

The steering is supposed to feel slower on the turns-I can't really tell a difference, but the twitchyness doesn't seem near as bad.

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Old 12-15-2013, 12:26 PM   #12677
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This looks like an issue with the smaller instrument cluster. I haven't heard of any of the larger units with Tach have the issue.

When I first bought my '09 I tore the bike down leaving the cables unplugged for 2 weeks. Had the same thing happen. It was goofy since it ONLY zeroed the ODO not the tripmeters.
Being as I just bought the bike I had that odo reading written down. It came in kinda handy for me as I run a logbook in the tankbag. All my work started at 0.
Mine went out at 12100km, maybe a little more but it wasn't over 12200 I know that much. I have paperwork for the 10000km service done in Sept this year so when I come to sell it eventually that will be enough evidence for the new owner.
Mine was the same, trip meters were fine but it did reset the clock.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:36 PM   #12678
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Mine did that too on my 2009. Reset itself around 6,000 miles when I disconnected the battery. So I have it in my maintenance spreadsheet. Only did it once.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:02 PM   #12679
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Thanks Clif! So been daydreaming again, which always gets me in trouble... I'm getting my 690 ready for an endurance ice race in January and I was looking at improving the steering a bit. Anyone messed with the geometry at all, or moved the radiator? I have a brand new set of fluiddyne radiators for a 450 RFS bike (longer and thicker). Might also make it easier to add another fan, like the dirt tricks unit. Thoughts?
That's a lot more mods there Crank! That poor 690 is probably nothing like it started eh?

I know nothing of geometry mods, only that my 2013 is a bit different from the older ones '11 and down and seems very stable all the up to the ton. My 690 has had a full suspension rework by Konflict Motorsports, with preload adjust front and rear, and a Akra can on it and a 690RR air filter kit still sitting on the workbench. Otherwise a stock engine setup. Not even a map change (gasp! ). But it won't stay stock for too much longer I hope. Plus I have the walking 690 Wiki, Uller, only 30 minutes away when I start digging into it. In fact Uller and I were chainsawing up some trees in my backyard last weekend (with temps in low 20's, brrrr) while yakking bikes, always a dangerous mixture . Lucky we didn't cut anything off that we shouldn't have.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:20 PM   #12680
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There you go bobzilla, only 1 ECU on the 2014 model. Whatcha waiting for? Go reserve one now.

You know you want too. You're handy, you know that your dual sporting time just doesn't have that same joie de vivre, now that you are reasonably certain that your forays into the desert won't involve a little wrenching time (I mean why even bring tools if you aren't going to use them? Remember the deep sense of personal accomplishment when you fixed something out in the dez?) or a tow rope? Being towed just helps to get to know your riding buddies better and builds up a distinct riding skill set you wouldn't have otherwise.

For those of you who have not been following the thread that long, bobzilla had an early model 690 (or maybe two--I can't remember for sure) and came up with a number of elegant mods to address certain issues, and shared them with us.

Seriously though, here's a challenge for you bobzilla. Go order up a 2014 Enduro R. Set to work addressing every known issue/weakness on the bike right out of the box, fuel pump, R/R, custom wiring harness, rad protection, clutch slave, flimsy brake pedal,etc., etc. add a skid plate, shark fin, HDB hand protectors, stick on case protectors, lockite and safety wire stuff where possible etc. Maybe do a build thread for "bobzilla's Bulletproof, Big Basin Blastin' Battle Bike". C'mon I haven't seen a really good 690 Enduro build thread since Bartron's.

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Old 12-15-2013, 02:58 PM   #12681
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That's a lot more mods there Crank! That poor 690 is probably nothing like it started eh?

I know nothing of geometry mods, only that my 2013 is a bit different from the older ones '11 and down and seems very stable all the up to the ton. My 690 has had a full suspension rework by Konflict Motorsports, with preload adjust front and rear, and a Akra can on it and a 690RR air filter kit still sitting on the workbench. Otherwise a stock engine setup. Not even a map change (gasp! ). But it won't stay stock for too much longer I hope. Plus I have the walking 690 Wiki, Uller, only 30 minutes away when I start digging into it. In fact Uller and I were chainsawing up some trees in my backyard last weekend (with temps in low 20's, brrrr) while yakking bikes, always a dangerous mixture . Lucky we didn't cut anything off that we shouldn't have.

I'm running SE forks right now, hiked up in the clamps 1.5 inches and a Kouba link rear for 1 5/8 drop. Going to switch to the 22mm setting on the clamps to get her to twitch Average speeds on the ice are about 50 mph with burst over 80 in a straight bit. My 690 is a franken bike for sure but it runs great...EVERY single time I ask it to 70 hp at the rear tire is also helpful
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:18 PM   #12682
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my experience is that the wiring harness has lots of very small wires with thin insulation and they like to wind said wires around lots of tight bends in tight bundles. Over time dust and debris work their way into the harness along with moisture/drying cycles and the wiring insulation gets damaged. After one ride in Canada in lots of deep water I found my turn signals and headlight were glowing with the bike off and the key out of the ignition. I later found several wires with splits in the insulation that were in close proximity to one another. When things got wet the moisture acted as a conduit to short circuits together. Best thing to do is to start up behind the headlight and just start inspecting connectors and wires. Put a small amount of dielectric grease in every connector you can get to. Look for damaged in the wires themselves...and focus on the circuits that the codes hint to.
My '11 690R wiring loom showed same problem.

Indicators stopped working at certain steering positions
Horn was touch and go
Bike would not start in gear (Side Stand bypass done)
Dash goes blank at times

I finally checked the main harness running through the neck to the front of the bike and so many of the little wires were cut, am surprised the bike was still running.
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:56 PM   #12683
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My '11 690R wiring loom showed same problem.

Indicators stopped working at certain steering positions
Horn was touch and go
Bike would not start in gear (Side Stand bypass done)
Dash goes blank at times

I finally checked the main harness running through the neck to the front of the bike and so many of the little wires were cut, am surprised the bike was still running.
Is it the gauge of wire necessary to make the circuitry have proper resistance or is it cheap ass to save a buck on KTM's part. I see so many various elec probs on '08-11 bikes it seems ridiculous. KTM -" Ready to Repair " might be the slogan they're working on.
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:17 PM   #12684
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I'm running SE forks right now, hiked up in the clamps 1.5 inches and a Kouba link rear for 1 5/8 drop. Going to switch to the 22mm setting on the clamps to get her to twitch Average speeds on the ice are about 50 mph with burst over 80 in a straight bit. My 690 is a franken bike for sure but it runs great...EVERY single time I ask it to 70 hp at the rear tire is also helpful
Looking forward to your ice racing videos with the 690! Make sure and post 'em up here.
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:22 PM   #12685
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The stem on your bike sounded pretty darned tight. Mine was pretty snug but far from needing to chock it up in the bearing press in order to press it out from the lower triple.
I had to beat mine like it sh!t on my carpet.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:01 PM   #12686
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This looks like an issue with the smaller instrument cluster. I haven't heard of any of the larger units with Tach have the issue.

When I first bought my '09 I tore the bike down leaving the cables unplugged for 2 weeks. Had the same thing happen. It was goofy since it ONLY zeroed the ODO not the tripmeters.
Being as I just bought the bike I had that odo reading written down. It came in kinda handy for me as I run a logbook in the tankbag. All my work started at 0.
Mine's a '12.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:23 PM   #12687
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Mine's a '12.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:57 PM   #12688
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So is mine ...

I guess now I have.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:41 PM   #12689
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my experience is that the wiring harness has lots of very small wires with thin insulation and they like to wind said wires around lots of tight bends in tight bundles. Over time dust and debris work their way into the harness along with moisture/drying cycles and the wiring insulation gets damaged. After one ride in Canada in lots of deep water I found my turn signals and headlight were glowing with the bike off and the key out of the ignition. I later found several wires with splits in the insulation that were in close proximity to one another. When things got wet the moisture acted as a conduit to short circuits together. Best thing to do is to start up behind the headlight and just start inspecting connectors and wires. Put a small amount of dielectric grease in every connector you can get to. Look for damaged in the wires themselves...and focus on the circuits that the codes hint to.
Seth,
Thanks very much for the advice. After wetting it down with the hose this weekend it refuses to start at all.

Just blinks "14" and "6" and "8".

Sure appreciate your help.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:02 PM   #12690
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I went ahead and got the artist's conception of what bobzilla would look like after rejoining the 690 collective...



Plump & happy. Content with life. Relaxing with a cold brew (notice the first one is almost gone and he has a pitcher standing by) after a long day of riding the dez on his beloved brand new 690 Enduro. The deeply tanned sun kissed cheeks. The KTM orange riding jersey. Nirvana in Nevada can be yours again bobzilla--just pick up the phone and call your local KTM dealer--the life you improve could be your own.

If the last one made you smile, I hope this one made you mop up the coffee from your keyboard!
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