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Old 12-28-2013, 05:23 AM   #12916
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Leanin: What/where did you get the air filter foam? Did you oil it?
You can buy sheets of it from Uni-Filter. Yes, I oil it just like a regular air filter. Its just easier to work with because it is flat.
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:24 AM   #12917
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Pretty much every DS bike on the market has aftermarket larger tanks, and aftermarket windscreens.
I know, and I don't consider either any big deal. Except on the gas point, the RR tanks are pricey, and all I really need is another gallon. I just carry it. Seems like the stock tank could be 4.2 without anyone noticing, that's all :)
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:30 AM   #12918
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I know, and I don't consider either any big deal. Except on the gas point, the RR tanks are pricey, and all I really need is another gallon. I just carry it. Seems like the stock tank could be 4.2 without anyone noticing, that's all :)
If it was 4.2 people would complain that it's not a 5 gal tank... lol
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:48 AM   #12919
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I know, and I don't consider either any big deal. Except on the gas point, the RR tanks are pricey, and all I really need is another gallon. I just carry it. Seems like the stock tank could be 4.2 without anyone noticing, that's all :)
And some people that own WR 250R's wish they had a 3 gallon tanks instead of a 2 gallon one. The thing is not everyone is satisfied with what comes out of the factory.
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:51 AM   #12920
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Recently traded in a road bike for a 2014 500 EXC. Did my first dirt ride on it yesterday. All I can say is WOW! Compared to my 690, the 500 had much plusher suspension(my 690 has much better suspension than stock), is radically more flickable, and seems to have way better traction. Power is a little less but only a little. So net result is the 690 is kind of ruined for me as a dirt bike. Now the 690 seems like an adventure touring bike that does really good off pavement, and the 500 seems like an "OMG I can't believe this thing is street legal!" dual sport. Of course the 690 is a better street bike but the 500, even geared down a lot from stock, can still cruise at 65-70. It gets blown around more due to the light weight, but does OK. I put a 16 tooth front sprocket back on the 690 so it will do highway a little better. The 690 is a better all around bike, but honestly, the 500 kind of blew my mind. Apples and oranges I guess, as the 500 holds 1.5L of oil and need an oil change every 15 hours.
Yep - that's the diff between the EXC and the 690. EXC is really a plated racing bike, light (50+ lbs less) and maneuverable - great for single track. But you pay for it in higher maintenance. I love both of mine. The EXC I use for single track and hare scrambles. The 690 I use for multiday backroad trips.
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Old 12-28-2013, 08:55 AM   #12921
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Recently traded in a road bike for a 2014 500 EXC. Did my first dirt ride on it yesterday. All I can say is WOW! Compared to my 690, the 500 had much plusher suspension(my 690 has much better suspension than stock), is radically more flickable, and seems to have way better traction. Power is a little less but only a little. So net result is the 690 is kind of ruined for me as a dirt bike. Now the 690 seems like an adventure touring bike that does really good off pavement, and the 500 seems like an "OMG I can't believe this thing is street legal!" dual sport. Of course the 690 is a better street bike but the 500, even geared down a lot from stock, can still cruise at 65-70. It gets blown around more due to the light weight, but does OK. I put a 16 tooth front sprocket back on the 690 so it will do highway a little better. The 690 is a better all around bike, but honestly, the 500 kind of blew my mind. Apples and oranges I guess, as the 500 holds 1.5L of oil and need an oil change every 15 hours.
I have to admit that I really don't get the comparison between the two.
The 690 is a DS bike, the 500 is an out-of-the-box racer.
The 690 was never supposed to go head to head against the 500.
Aside from the facts that they're both made by KTM and both have knobby tires, there's really no comparison between the two.

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Old 12-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #12922
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I know, and I don't consider either any big deal. Except on the gas point, the RR tanks are pricey, and all I really need is another gallon. I just carry it. Seems like the stock tank could be 4.2 without anyone noticing, that's all :)
The very same rather mild frustration here as well. I'm coming off of a 640A with a fuel tank with a range much larger than my bladder.

Spring for the spendy route with the rally bike look front tanks or the low dough route with a 1 or 1.75 gal Rotopax and be done with it.

That way, you'll have no extra pork on the bike when you don't need it.

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Old 12-28-2013, 09:36 AM   #12923
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I have to admit that I really don't get the comparison between the two.
The 690 is a DS bike, the 500 is an out-of-the-box racer.
The 690 was never supposed to go head to head against the 500.
Aside from the facts that they're both made by KTM and both have knobby tires, there's really no comparison between the two.
While I agree there is really no comparison, how you look at the two bikes is a matter of perspective from each individual rider. I could very well say that my EXC is a DS bike and my 690 s a street bike. It's all in how YOU want to ride them. I use my 690 a lot differently then a lot of people here.
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:05 AM   #12924
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If it was 4.2 people would complain that it's not a 5 gal tank... lol
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And some people that own WR 250R's wish they had a 3 gallon tanks instead of a 2 gallon one. The thing is not everyone is satisfied with what comes out of the factory.
Both very true.

My only real complaint is that I made poor career decisions and can't afford to have more bikes and a full kit from RR. LoL
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:15 AM   #12925
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On a different note, I'm playing with wiring for lighting and I need a switch. Mind you, this is sheer tinkering and time wasting when I know there's perfectly good switches all over to put on the bar...

There appears to be a manufacturing "blank" on top of the headlight switchgear. Anyone have any idea what bike ktm might use the same housing on that has another switch in that space?


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Old 12-28-2013, 10:19 AM   #12926
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I agree with you.
I guess it's a matter of what you consider a "DS bike".
For me (and for most of the people where I live) a DS bike is one you can take off road and still use as an everyday bike.
Most of the 690 owners that I know in person also use it as their main vehicle (in my case, the only vehicle).
I know that I wouldn't want to do that on a bike like the 500 exc (just as I wouldn't want to do it on the 250 exc-F). The maintenance interval alone makes this impossible.
Hell, I'm doing about 20,000 Km a year on the 690 and changing oils every 5000 Km is a pain for me.
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:12 AM   #12927
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I agree the comparison is not valid. I guess the point I was trying to make is that for 4 years I have been riding my 690 and also had a dedicated street bike, so the 690 was the dirt bike. I considered the 690 to be a pretty good off road bike. One ride off road on the 500 just blew my mind and instantly changed my idea of what a street legal dirt bike could do. So all of a sudden the 690 is kind of the street bike and the 500 is the dirt bike. Just a change of perception about the 690 that I never thought would happen. The 690 is still a pretty good off road bike in my mind, but the 500 just opened my eyes as to what a good off road bike really is.

BTW my bikes are just weekend warriors and I don't put tons of miles on them so maintenance is not a big issue. 4 years with the 690 and just 13,000 miles.
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:25 AM   #12928
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Rear sprocket nuts/bolts

Anyone know if these fit an Enduro R rear sprocket...? They are 8mm x 22mm D58-32-282 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRC-Motorcyc...dd67e6&vxp=mtr
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:53 PM   #12929
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currently looking for one of these bikes in the france/germany region cant find an enduro just a shit load of supermotos, which has got me thinking why not use a 690 sm but then i think to myself just find an enduro if you ever wanted to just put sm wheels on it, be way harder to go the other way...
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:53 PM   #12930
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Does anybody know what model DID chain is used on the 690 stock?

Just wondering whether I should bother changing my fresh stock chain out as I'm prepping my bike for an upcoming RTW trip.
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