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Old 06-11-2013, 03:02 PM   #1
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Help With Value of Vintage Bicycle...?

Hey guys,

An older friend who's not the most tech-savvy guy around asked me if I could help him determine a value of (and I guess sell) a vintage bicycle he's got.

If anyone can help me figure the value out, it'd be much appreciated!

Here are the particulars:

1964 Custom Hand-built Ellis-Briggs 10-Speed Professional Road Racing Bike

Original owner.

21.5” frame
Reynolds 531 double-butted tubing
Beautiful lug work at joints
Very complete but needs (easy) restoration (some surface rust on components)
New Continental sew-up tubular tires + New Continental spare
Cinelli stem and bars
All Campagnolo (front chainring 52/42, rear cassette 22/14)
Aluminum wheels
Campagnolo pedals with clips & straps
Fizik saddle
Includes original Campagnolo tire pump

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Old 06-11-2013, 03:32 PM   #2
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A few years ago I sold a similiar vintage bianchi with similiar grade equipment (less the rust) and I recall around $175~200.

I could be WAY off and some one got a great deal but I was happy it's moved on.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:54 PM   #3
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A few years ago I sold a similiar vintage bianchi with similiar grade equipment (less the rust) and I recall around $175~200.

I could be WAY off and some one got a great deal but I was happy it's moved on.
Vintage bicycles really don't bring much money. Unless of course they have a competition history of note.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #4
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Vintage bicycles really don't bring much money. Unless of course they have a competition history of note.


You have to get way more vintage or have some pedigree attached to it to be worth anything.

I think 150-200 is highly overvalued. It's more like 50 bucks. Maybe.

You'd be better off parting it out, cleaning/restoring the frame and components and selling it that way.

Sorry man, the "vintage" bike market like most others took a shit and never recovered.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:50 AM   #5
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A hipster might buy it for more.

But it'll become a fixie in no time.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:36 AM   #6
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Look at completed-sold auctions on ebay for similar bikes.
You might also check with these folks; (no affiliation) http://www.recycledcycles.net/recy.rtro.html

Offhand, for collector types, I think the big problem with that bike would be the rust, condition is everything. Also the saddle isn't original, so that would be a problem for a collector as well. As for a bike to ride, it would be very nice and a much nicer ride than anything that could be purchased new for two or three hundred or even double that.
If I needed another vintage 531 DB frame bike, and it were my size, at first blush, I'd have no problem with spending 200-300 for it. But I've not had a reason to go shopping.
As noted, it could be worth more for the components. The big problem with bikes of that vintage as riders is that the rear dropouts are too narrow for modern running gear. Nothing particularly wrong with just 10 speeds and friction shifting, but more gears are nice.

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Old 06-12-2013, 06:35 AM   #7
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break it down and sell it as parts.. you will get twice what you would for the whole bike.. some hipster will pay $100-300 for the frame to turn into a fixie..maybe. The components in good condition would have brought more than the frame,, but that rust kills them... might get $75-$150 for that rear derailleur on ebay... anyway... part it out. The crankset looks to be in good condition..that might bring the most money.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:47 AM   #8
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you never know, someone out there might have a soft spot for a particular rare breed, but you probably won't find that person on a 7 day ebay auction.

If anyone wants it, they probably live here:
http://www.bikeforums.net

There's a particular thread which may be of interest:
http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...-and-Inquiries
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:29 PM   #9
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Thanks for the tips, all. I put a thread up on BikeForum and also contacted the Recycled Cycles folks. I'll update the thread with the final result if we get some answers and he decides to sell it.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:14 PM   #10
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Sell it to some hipster for $300.

10+ years ago I had a few old roadies of late 60s early 70s vintage (Bianchi, Peugot, Raleigh) and couldn't GIVE those away ended up tossin' 'em in the scrap steel heap at the dump.
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:08 PM   #11
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that looks like a 400.00 dollar bike to me,
Might be worth looking for some original decals for the frame as well as the Reynolds 531 stickers
Its top of the line Campy parts,
ditch the seat for a Brooks saddle,
clean the rust with naval jelly ,
spray it all down with WD40 and your good to go.

Though if you really wanted to you could send off all the rusted parts to be re chromed,
the aluminum parts will buff to a shine with some elbow grease

I have a 76 Raleigh Competition 25in frame with Reynolds 531 and after looking at vintage bike forums,
seems these are still very sought after bikes along with the components

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Old 06-13-2013, 11:50 PM   #12
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I dont think it is a 1964. the bolt circle on that crank is 144, which means the smallest ring it could take is a 42. In the 60's, the bolt circle was 151, the inner ring could only be a 44 as smallest.

also, the rear derailluer has a stamp on it that says 72, that's the manufacture year. Yes, you could put newer parts on older frames, but when you look at the fork crown, which is an internal sloping Cinelli, I believe, it is more likely an early 70's bike. The flat qr's on the Campy brakes make them a bit more valuable, and they look to be standard reach, 47-57 mm.

Here's one built in 74, looks like yours

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...olor_green.htm

and it looks like they are still building

http://customframebuilding.ellisbriggscycles.co.uk
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:33 AM   #13
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Definitely get your info from Bikeforums. Those guys know bikes. The guys on here saying it's not worth much, don't know anything about Vintage bikes.

I'm with Mrmerlin on this, closer to $400. I don't know road bikes though.
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:47 AM   #14
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I will say that you need to watch out for people telling you what something is worth on the net. I put a vintage skateboard up asking the same thing and everyone told me it was worth less than 50 dollars. I didn't just sell it for 50 bucks. I kept it and took it to a skate board place locally, they told me it was worth at least 400 and bought it for 300.
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:17 PM   #15
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Yep $50 bucks max, PM me your address and I'll send you the money.
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