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Old 09-16-2011, 09:23 AM   #31
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Btw that jetbeam from bugoutgear is a great light too. Twice thr price but can adjust the levels from a dim glow to full output for each of the 3 "clicks" of the switch. I also love the clip which allows you to clip in pocket or clip to hat visor for a headlight which is great when you want hands free around camp.

I also" hate" lights that have 5 modes, and you need to click through sos and strobe to get back to the medium setting for example.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:01 AM   #32
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Great thanks. Oh one more question, is a a DL123A battery?
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:39 AM   #33
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The prices on some of these flash lights are great, but how rugged are they? I purchased a couple of cheap ones from Costco a while back to stash in various spots. While using one in my garage I dropped the flash light on my work bench and it broke. The drop was only about six inches. My surefire has taken a lot more abuse, but has a much higher price tag. Do any of these have some sort of drop rating? I don't like having tools that I can't rely on.
The higher end lights (even the smaller ones) have a drop/impact test. US MIL STD 810F. I would even guess you could watch some flashlight horror movies on u-tube, people torturing poor flashlights for our amusement.

I think if you did some shopping you could find a good one in the $25-40 range pretty easily.

I'm down to the Jetbeam pictured above or the same model that runs on AA cells or this:


This one is pretty neat but it's a bit more pricey.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:28 AM   #34
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The prices on some of these flash lights are great, but how rugged are they? I purchased a couple of cheap ones from Costco a while back to stash in various spots. While using one in my garage I dropped the flash light on my work bench and it broke. The drop was only about six inches. My surefire has taken a lot more abuse, but has a much higher price tag. Do any of these have some sort of drop rating? I don't like having tools that I can't rely on.
That Xeno went missing for about 3 weeks. Found it in my tool pouch that had been banging around in my empty panniers. And I mean BANGING around. Even the hard anodizing is still perfect. Love that little light.

The Cree XML is the coolest emitter out there right now so see if you can find a light with it. Most of the rated outputs you see are dependent on you using 3.7V Li Ion batteries, so plan on getting a set/charger. Battery Junction is my favorite place to order those.

In regards to the cheapos at HD, Costco, Deal Xtreme, they are exactly that. I have bought a couple at Deal Xtreme and they were good for kicking around but nothing I would depend on. The aluminum bodies are thin, everything is cheap, threads aren't crisp, plus they almost all have the 5 mode sos/strobes which are plain annoying.

Anything you get from Jetbeam, Sure Fire, 4 Sevens, Nite Core etc will be high quality and with a price to boot. The AA format is my favorite as it can put out a lot of light, has easy to find batteries, and still is very compact. I will probably get a JetBeam with the IBS format in a XML emitter soon as I think they have dialed the low setting to 0.05 lumens or barely glowing. It's nice to have a super low setting for inside your tent and reading.

I also prefer the neutral tints as they look more like natural light. The cool white is what most people experience with LED lights and I don't like the look of it, especially outdoors. The neutral or warm tints are more yellow like sunlight.
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:19 AM   #35
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Got this one...love it. Blinding bright CREE LED.

http://www.countycomm.com/aaastainless.html

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Old 09-17-2011, 08:42 PM   #36
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found one of these in the parking lot = free. batteries are dirt cheap on ebay. quite brite.


http://www.coastportland.com/g5-led-flashlight.htm
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Old 09-18-2011, 05:35 PM   #37
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I have a Pelican m6 or some such flashlight that is similar in size to a surefire G2 or whatever it is, and I keep it in my back pocket next to my wallet. I don't even notice it is there, and it only falls out when I sit at bar stools for some reason.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:50 PM   #38
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I've committed to CR123 batteries, hope never to buy a AAA, AA, C or D cell again.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:08 AM   #39
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Used it outside at night last night for real for the first time, it is brighter than I had thought since I had only seen it in daylight or a dark room till I used it last night. Perfect for what I need it for. I have a bunch of brighter larger more expensive torches for other stuff.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:26 AM   #40
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I pulled the trigger on a Jetbeam BA10. I will let you know what I think when I get it.

I really wanted the RRT-0, but it's just not in the budget at $110. Christmas is coming... ( I used to hate hearing that as a kid... still do.)
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:46 AM   #41
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Btw that jetbeam from bugoutgear is a great light too. Twice thr price but can adjust the levels from a dim glow to full output for each of the 3 "clicks" of the switch. I also love the clip which allows you to clip in pocket or clip to hat visor for a headlight which is great when you want hands free around camp.

I also" hate" lights that have 5 modes, and you need to click through sos and strobe to get back to the medium setting for example.
I bought one form batteries plus on a suggestion here on the other torch thread. I do have a love hate relationship with it. That reason you mentioend is the reason. It has to be toggled thru all the options, H,M,L, SOS, Strobe, to get back to high again. Unless of course, you don't need to use it for 10~15 seconds between power on cycles. I hate that. If I have to turn it on, then off and back on again, in a few seconds, I need to friggin toggle thru all; the modes.
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:02 AM   #42
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:13 AM   #43
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I bought one form batteries plus on a suggestion here on the other torch thread. I do have a love hate relationship with it. That reason you mentioend is the reason. It has to be toggled thru all the options, H,M,L, SOS, Strobe, to get back to high again. Unless of course, you don't need to use it for 10~15 seconds between power on cycles. I hate that. If I have to turn it on, then off and back on again, in a few seconds, I need to friggin toggle thru all; the modes.
try Lumapower ... D Mini VX has a mode lock function; not sure if the others use a similiar program
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:47 AM   #44
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I bought one form batteries plus on a suggestion here on the other torch thread. I do have a love hate relationship with it. That reason you mentioend is the reason. It has to be toggled thru all the options, H,M,L, SOS, Strobe, to get back to high again. Unless of course, you don't need to use it for 10~15 seconds between power on cycles. I hate that. If I have to turn it on, then off and back on again, in a few seconds, I need to friggin toggle thru all; the modes.
Yeah as you said it stinks. Many of the higher end lights have it as a hidden option. Course you'll never remember how to turnit on when you need to.

It's a deal breaker for me if it's not able to be switched off
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:49 AM   #45
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I pulled the trigger on a Jetbeam BA10. I will let you know what I think when I get it.

I really wanted the RRT-0, but it's just not in the budget at $110. Christmas is coming... ( I used to hate hearing that as a kid... still do.)
Hate to tell you this but if you join candle powr forums for free you get 15% off at bugoutgear on jetbeam
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