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Old 05-04-2012, 04:55 PM   #316
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Hey wbbnm:

Back from Barclay, NV. Got close to Ella Mountain. Pennsylvania Canyon Road. Here is pic of a sign, taken from the Fife Road. On Benchmark, this sign is at sharp corner (intersection) just southeast of Ella Spring.




And here is what the Ella Mountain Road looked like. Graded. Recent maintenance. Some loose surface rock.




We didn't go up to Ella Mountain, 3 miles, or down Pennsylvania Canyon to Elgin. Only 14 miles. How bad could it be? My guess is the road to the lookout from this side (Barclay side) was in good condition with recent maintenance. It is the other side from Elgin up to Ella Mountain that is likely less maintained.

Talked to a local in Caliente. Didn't have recent knowledge, but thought the Pennsylvania Canyon Road would be steep/rough but totally doable on bikes. I think there is more traffic on the northeast side vs. the southwest side (by Elgin), although very, very little activity in either area.

My dad and I didn't see a single person from Motoqua to Caliente, including poking around in Barclay for an hour.


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I haven't been on the road road from Elgin to Barclay via Pine Canyon Reservoir. On Benchmark it is called the Pennsylvania Canyon Road. Goes right past Ella Mtn (el. 7479) and shows some switchbacks. Here is a pic from a few weeks ago of the start of the road right next to the Elgin Schoolhouse.




Sign says "Road Damage Ahead" -- my guess is that the road is passable with motos. Probably some washouts, but not a complete disaster. If it was a complete disaster I'm guessing the sign would have said "Road Closed" or "Road Impassable."

Planning to go to Barclay tomorrow (Thursday) via Bunker Peak Road (Bunker Pass) from Motoqua. Might poke around a bit near Fife Road, Barnes Canyon Road, etc. Not sure. Will keep eyes open for any clues about status of (the northeast end of) Pennsylvania Canyon Road.

Should have at least a few steep, rocky spots around the switchbacks? Washouts might make it interesting . . .

Enjoyed the pics and video of you and the New Mexico boys on the Shelf Road!
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:58 PM   #317
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A few teaser pics from Barclay, NV

Almost 200 miles with Dad. General route was St. George --> Motoqua --> Barclay --> Caliente --> Panaca --> Crestline --> Enterprise --> St. George.

Long abandoned house / store, just below Mathews Canyon Dam on Clover Creek. Very solid wall construction with railroad ties. Very close to Barclay -- Union Pacific Railroad line.




The main street of Barclay. There are a few occupied residences, but didn't see a soul.




Barclay's one-room schoolhouse and church. Nicely restored with well-kept grounds.

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Old 05-06-2012, 08:30 PM   #318
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Good time. Met several inmates -- Brian, Brandon, Jesse, lacofdfireman -- hope you guys all had a good day. Throw a pic up here if you managed to grab one. Be in touch if any of you local guys want to ride.

Out at "the wall" between Gunlock and Veyo. Fun, festive atmosphere, but the wind and the wall were taking their toll on the athletes. Times for the elite finishers were 30 min to 1 hour slower than last year even though the run course was flatter. Wind crushed people on the swim and bike.




About 1,400 athletes started. Just over 1,000 finished by midnight. 17 hours. Talked with a few athletes in Zion today. First hand accounts of brutal conditions at Sand Hollow for the swim. We watched the wind inflict pain on the bike course.




Here's my photo guy doing his thing. Good guy. Hope he got some good pics!




Athletes climbing the wall. They got to do this twice. Two loops. 112 miles.




Motos at the end of the bike course in downtown St. George at T2, transition to run. The green media tag would let you ride anywhere on the bike course including against traffic. Kinda different. Almost no cars so easy to avoid the bicycles. Photographer liked getting his shots with cyclists head-on with red cliffs in background.




Here is the lead woman just starting the run. She looked incredible. Only about 5 pro men in front of her. Amazing athlete on a tough course.




Ironman St. George will be shorter next year, 70.3 not 140.6, but will still need moto support. Pretty interesting. Give it a go if you're around with a bike.
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:58 PM   #319
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Had a riding friend, who is also one of the inmates here, who finished the Ironman yesterday. Hopefully, the shorter race next year will do a better job at attracting more participants. Kind of a shame to see such an event have declining numbers every year.

Still hope to get in a ride with you sometime. Look forward to more of your posts.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:23 AM   #320
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It was nice meeting you this past weekend! I look forward to riding with you in the future. I had a great time riding the course. Some of the windy sections back by Gunlock were tough on me and the moto at slow speeds, I can't imagine how the athletes felt. I hope to help out again next year.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:58 AM   #321
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Really enjoyed my ride with RRR and gang. Headed off to St Louis the next morning and got back yesterday. Rode the BMW to Vegas and flew out of there. Flying back between Denver and Vegas I got a good look at the immensity of our Southern Utah area.
Glad to be back and ready to go ride some of what I saw!
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:41 PM   #322
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Good time. Met several inmates -- Brian, Brandon, Jesse, lacofdfireman -- hope you guys all had a good day. Throw a pic up here if you managed to grab one. Be in touch if any of you local guys want to ride.
Here is my pic from the Ironman. Great to meet you all. Some really awesome pics in this thread. I'll put up some pics of my ride home through Zion and Grand Mesa tonight.

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Old 05-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #323
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Here is my pic from the Ironman. Great to meet you all. Some really awesome pics in this thread. I'll put up some pics of my ride home through Zion and Grand Mesa tonight.

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Old 05-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #324
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Been busy. Finally some time to post up pics from ride to Barclay, NV with Dad. Continued on to Caliente (gas, food) and came back to Utah via Crestline Road. Fast dirt which connects to Enterprise.

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Route was St. George to Motoqua. Map starts in Motoqua. Cross Beaver Dam Wash and continue northwest over Bunker Pass. Descend towards Barclay. We checked out Matthews Canyon Dam -- interesting. Barclay has a one-room schoolhouse and an old cemetery. A few active residences but didn't see a person. Quite the place to live.

Left Barclay on the Fife Road. Intended to go on the Barnes Canyon Road to Caliente, but followed signs (to Caliente) at the 5 point Fife Flat intersection which took us via Ella Spring. Descent into Caliente was a narrower canyon but a good road. All of this route is easily passable by any dual sport bike.

For our return we slabbed up to Panana then took Crestline Road (fast dirt) over to Enterprise. Asphalt from Enterprise back to St. George.

Definitely recommend both Barclay and Caliente. The Bunker Pass road is scenic and chances are you won't see a person!


Here's a pic of an abandoned house on the Shivwits Indian Reservation just west of St. George. Very prominent on the right side of road just after crossing the Santa Clara River. Most locals will recognize the place.




Can't really go poking around. Got to respect the private property.




Dad grabbed this pic of me starting up the Utah Hill just before the turn-off onto the Motoqua Road. For newcomers to the thread there is an index of rides on page 1. Lots of rides and details about the Motoqua Road listed. See Post #120 and #253.




Here's Dad. Ready to roll. The Motoqua Road starts with some nice red cliffs, a good ride on its own. Also good jump-off rides to the north (Enterprise Reservoir area) and south (Indian Springs).




I picked my feet up crossing Beaver Dam Wash. Didn't want wet socks for the day.




Crossing in to Nevada. Always something cool about crossing state lines on dirt roads. We all need to be doing more of this!




Just past Halfway Camp. The Bunker Pass Road to Caliente.




Dad on the climb. The road is well designed and for the most part in good shape the whole way. There are a few partial washouts (not recent), but it is easy to use the good part of the road with a motorbike. A truck/jeep could also squeeze past but you'd have to watch where your wheels are. After Bunker Pass the roads open up and for the most part are quite fast.




My bike near the top of Bunker Pass looking back east towards Square Top Mountain. Gunlock Reservoir sits behind Square Top Mountain.




No sign at the top of Bunker Pass (or at least we didn't see one). The road just gradually flattens out into sagebrush flats. Nice riding.




Pretty good signs all along. Nevada has done a nice job with this.




The older signs have a lot more character, but have sometimes been knocked down or propped back up pointing the wrong direction. Since the main road is close to Mathews Dam (1 mile) we go in to check it out. Well worth it!




Mathews Canyon Picnic Area. Looks like you could camp here! This place is pretty remote. Not much competition for a picnic table and no user fees.




Mathews Canyon Reservoir is dry except for a bit of a marsh off to one side. Doesn't look like the reservoir has held water for many, many years.




The unused spillway. It's massive. What were the original engineers thinking?




Depth gauge markers and the dry bottom. Our tax dollars at work . . . ???




Below the dam is the slow trickle Clover Creek and a small marsh / meadow. Worth driving down and taking a look. You can see the dam in the background.




Down below is a charming old ruin. Appears to have been a house and general store. Looks like it was the real deal. Right on Clover Creek.




Time is gradually taking its toll, but lots of the original construction was solid.




Good to get the helmet off and take a look around. Pleasant temps but it is starting to heat up.




Interior is in disarray. Quite a few rooms. Too bad, not much old furniture. This place probably had quite a history. Nice setting.




Retracing our steps back up to the dam.




Artistic mirror shot. Every ride reports gotta have one!




Typical road scene. Cruising towards Barclay.




Barclay. The restored one-room schoolhouse and church.




Plaque. A labor of love.




A few dogs, but no people.




The door.




Cupola.




Old farm equipment, nicely organized on the grounds.




Building is locked, but still lots to see.




The old cemetery is nearby.




Several new gravestones highlight the long family histories in the area.




Irrigation in Barclay. Its all about the water.




Sign in Barclay. Schoolhouse with white fence in background.




Active railroad crossing in town.




Older building with a new roof. Well maintained and lived in. Nice yard.




Leaving Barclay out on the Fife Road. Now we started to travel a little quicker. Really fun poking around Mathews Dam and Barclay, but it was time to roll. Every ride has its own dynamic.




This sign was at "5 points" intersection on Fife Flat. We simply followed the signs to Caliente. This was a mistake. We were intending to go via Barnes Canyon. Oh well, next time. Our route was probably quite a bit slower. Took us via Ella Spring. All good, very scenic.




Gained some elevation again. Back up into some big trees. A few very nice camping spots in the area just north of Ella Mountain.




Recent road maintenance. Some loose rock, but overall roads in good condition. No people. Very remote.




By this time we knew we weren't on the Barnes Canyon Road (no railroad tracks). Here were are descending just before Caliente. The tanks on the opposite hill are above Caliente. The town is down below.




Our entrance in to Caliente. Good route, I recommend it. Ella Mountain lookout and Pennslyvania Canyon over to Elgin would be worth exploring.




For those keeping score at home, here is the street. Very easy to track on Google Maps.




This restaurant is right next to Spring Steet, very visible from main road (Highway 93).




Time for gas. This is about 100 miles from St. George. My bike tends to just hit reserve by Caliente. My dad's Honda has a 200 mile tank range so isn't yet close to reserve. I carry a bit of extra gas, but Caliente is definitely fill-up time.




We grab some motorcycle parking.




Dad goes for a treat.




Here's the place. Gas and food. A local recognizes us (our bikes) from a few weeks ago. We talk about general dirt road conditions. His assessment is we can go anywhere (PA Canyon) on dual sport bikes.




We crank it out on fast slab up to Panaca and turn east back to UT. Dual sport bikes are great for chewing up some miles once you hit the open road. We opt for Crestline Road (fast dirt) back to Enterprise.




Another great ride with Dad. We've had a lot of fun putting miles on bikes and exploring. Crestline road would be fine for any road bike as well as long as it isn't muddy. I've take both my road bikes through with no issues.




Long shadows late in the day. Nice to have all the daylight hours. We tend to use 'em.




Last pic, entering back in to Utah.




Thanks to everyone for all the positive comments. Really provides motivation for posting. Keep in touch if you are in the area and want to ride. Rubber side down!
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:20 PM   #325
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RRR - another great report. I want to move out there. And I love that you are doing it with your dad. Go Grampa! Keep the reports coming!
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:03 PM   #326
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RRR,

You have been one of the guys that has had very nice things to say in my thread, so I felt it was time to return the favor and read yours. ALL OF IT! Please take a most sincere compliment from me on the quality of your rides and thread. I know how much work this is to put together and your efforts are simply amazing.

Your photography is fantastic. Very clear and perfectly framed. The amazing landscape I'm sure helps. You seem to catch a lot of the smaller types of details that I think I miss, mainly due to the fact that I'm riding with my hair on fire most of the time.

I think it is wonderful that you get to spend so much time with your dad. After reading my thread, and the past two summers trapped on pavement for the annual Father/sons trip, my dad parked the Goldwing and bought an 04 KTM 950. He's seriously excited about our dirt trip this summer and I think Utah is the possible destination. I'll be re-reading your thread when it comes time to route plan though your neck of the woods.

You take a lot of time to share the specific details of all your rides and I'm sure more than one person has really appreciated your efforts. Do you color photocopy your Benchmark and then highlight the routes for illustrative purposes? How ever you do it, it's a great addition to your posts.

Once again, a most sincere GREAT JOB! Keep up the good work. You have a new subscriber.
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:30 PM   #327
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Thanks, Tyson!

Yes, the maps are simple color photocopies of Benchmark. Highlight the relevant ride, take a pic, and add it to the ride report. Seems to be a good system. I've always been a map guy. Fun for planning routes. Also easy for others to follow along and hopefully plan a ride if they are in the area. Every inmate should have a few Benchmark maps!

Great that you and your dad have a few rides in the works. Good fun. Going with my dad has been fantastic, almost every week! My son is only ten and rides his little KLX 110 around our place at Brian Head. He is a big adventeror on ATVs but doesn't like to get "far" from home on the bike (yet). I'm assuming as he gets older adventures on the bike will become more appealing to him.

Enjoy that new suspension in Hobbes. As best you can, keep the rubber side down. I'll keep checkin' out and posting in your thread. Always a good read.

If you ever convince a pretty girl to ride pillion take a pic or two. I'm happily married to a gorgeous gal, but always fun to see how the single side of life is livin'. Good things will come your way! I keep joking about polygamy with my wife (its Utah baby), so far no traction.

Have fun out there. See you.
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Yes, the maps are simple color photocopies of Benchmark. Highlight the relevant ride, take a pic, and add it to the ride report. Seems to be a good system. I've always been a map guy. Fun for planning routes. Also easy for others to follow along and hopefully plan a ride if they are in the area. Every inmate should have a few Benchmark maps!

Great that you and your dad have a few rides in the works. Good fun. Going with my dad has been fantastic, almost every week! My son is only ten and rides his little KLX 110 around our place at Brian Head. He is a big adventeror on ATVs but doesn't like to get "far" from home on the bike (yet). I'm assuming as he gets older adventures on the bike will become more appealing to him.

Enjoy that new suspension in Hobbes. As best you can, keep the rubber side down. I'll keep checkin' out and posting in your thread. Always a good read.

If you ever convince a pretty girl to ride pillion take a pic or two. I'm happily married to a gorgeous gal, but always fun to see how the single side of life is livin'. Good things will come your way! I keep joking about polygamy with my wife (its Utah baby), so far no traction.

Have fun out there. See you.
I've always been a map guy too. I'm eight Benchmarks deep right now! Benchmark is totally superior to the Delormes in my opinion. I still have my heels dug in about not getting a GPS, but all it's gonna take is one time to get lost out the desert of Southern Idaho or Northern Nevada to change that. I've got a Cali trip coming up in early June and I'll be riding solo though unfamiliar territory of Northern Nevada. I might need to buy one before that. Seriously desolate out there and I'll be stretched on fuel as it is if I go the way I'm planning. No extra miles for backtracking.

If you don't mind terribly, I may copy your idea of the photocopy. With full credit given to you ,of course. It really adds so much to your posts!

I know I've been complaining about the single life quite a bit in my thread, but this last one hurt pretty bad. Now I have to make a phone call tonight to the girl I took for a ride on Saturday. We are worlds apart. Back to being the rejector instead of being the rejectee! Stay tuned, I forsee a long sting of women in my future. One of these times one will stick. For now, I've got Hobbes!

My compliments again on your thread. Keep up the great riding and writing! I'll keep reading. See ya!
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Subscribed! I've ridden about 80% of the places you've shown. One of your shots at Navajo Lake was about 50 yds from my cabin! Keep it up, enjoying the photos.
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