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Old 08-02-2012, 01:02 PM   #2581
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The key to long distance riding is usually not a seat issue, but a skin care issue.
It is both. The proper distribution of pressure is not accomplished by skin care.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:50 PM   #2582
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Saw one today on my lunch hour in Ann Arbor, with pillion. I think its a good looking bike.

Saw, not heard tho.
You could have been riding on it and you would barely have heard it.

The guys I rode with last weekend commented that while at red lights together they couldn't hear my bike running at all.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:14 PM   #2583
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It is both. The proper distribution of pressure is not accomplished by skin care.
NO FUCKING SHIT

I mean it is not like I working in a hospital or anything.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:36 PM   #2584
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:58 PM   #2585
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This or a 2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 1100 with factory hard bags. 1.5 years left on the factory warranty. Only 350 miles on the odo. MPG 45-50 Price $6000
I'm glad I got my Guzzi. This is a naked maxi scooter built with parts from the lowest bidder. Honda will sell a ton of them on price point alone. To me the cheapness is just glaring... from the components to the squishy suspenders. I guess if you are a new or returning to biking this may be acceptable... It just looks like it could fold in half at any moment. I supose if your comparing new bikes to new bikes or just have to have a brand new Honda its a good value but if your willing to look outside the box for a used still under warranty bike you get a lot more bike for your money.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:17 PM   #2586
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It looks like it might fit a six-pack or an ipad. I don't think you're getting a case of beer or a laptop in there.

Just sayin. I still like it.
saw the first one I've seen today. I put my Nikon D700 in it's over sized softcase (D700 is about as big as most DSLR's get) and the 80-200 mm lens in it's softcase, both, into the "trunk" and they fit nice. Very tempting bike at that price. Feels REALLY light. I'll need a test ride before I'd buy one but very interested in this bike. Looks SOO much better in person than pictures. If it was Honda red I probably would have bought it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:24 PM   #2587
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:29 PM   #2588
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:50 PM   #2589
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I'm glad I got my Guzzi. This is a naked maxi scooter built with parts from the lowest bidder.
If that was the case most of it would be made in China or Thailand like a few European bikes that cost considerably more.

The frame also looks suspiciously more sturdy than most as well as the weight would indicate.

Time to get caught up with some component sourcing reality I think.

I suspect the money was probably saved with some simple but effective suspension, twin cylinders, some nifty manufacturing tricks and a bit of platform sharing. Suspiciously like many European brands as well.

I think the only difference is they don't expect people to pay a whole lot for it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:49 PM   #2590
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Another example of it being faulted for not being what it is not.

It's a $6000 bike being criticized for not being a $10000 bike.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:59 PM   #2591
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I test rode one today. Nice little bike, bouncy suspension, great brakes, flaccid motor...but nice little bike priced right.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:20 PM   #2592
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I wonder how long it will take before the aftermarket addresses the parts that are unacceptable for some riders?

Before you know it some riders will have $12,000 invested in this.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:14 PM   #2593
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Oh come on I think it is other way round. First it is engineered and then after sales guys felt it - marketing put's their spin on it. It's just good layout for motor, this is why.
You can't design electric smooth motor with this arrangement. Unless you have variable balancer shaft system

I must admit I do like that part. The engine rumble.
Maybe with a dummy third cylinder?
That's what Yamaha T-max uses.

..but again, I loved the smoothness and type of vibrations that NC700X has.
It's completely enjoyable after riding a 650R (kawi). That thing had me swear
I'd never ride a parallel twin again. NC700X changed my mind.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:20 AM   #2594
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Maybe with a dummy third cylinder?
That's what Yamaha T-max uses.

..but again, I loved the smoothness and type of vibrations that NC700X has.
It's completely enjoyable after riding a 650R (kawi). That thing had me swear
I'd never ride a parallel twin again. NC700X changed my mind.
Nah...they tried it on other twins...this is very well balanced layout. What often not realized by riders is that vibrations do not equal unbalanced motor. 90 degrees twins are very well balanced motors - but they vibrate.
To me NC reminded me of (a bit) my VTR1000F. That bike had great motor and nice vibe but of course on different level.

NC is really nice motor layout and if not for built-in by design limitation would be great upgrade platform. I really like that motor size, displacement, layout...I was hoping it can handle different level of performance. But it looks like it is not meant to. But as very well said above - can't criticize 6000 Euro bike for not being 10000 euro bike. All have it's price.
I am sure there will be plenty of riders in US who will want and UJM with extra fuel savings (from what I hear from my friend in US who been riding for 35 odd years). In Western Europe it have hard time competing with other practical transport - maxi scooters. But this can change...
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:02 AM   #2595
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I had a test ride on one of theses the other day, and it was pretty great. The low center of gravity really makes it easy to throw it around, and the engine, while not "exciting", certainly feels sturdy and pulls fine. The riding position was very comfortable, and it really does get fantastic mileage; fuelly.com says it's getting an average of about 65 US MPG. Not sure if it's what I personally want to own right now, but the more I look at it, the more interesting an idea I'm finding it.
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