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Old 09-18-2012, 01:43 PM   #3196
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Well, over here some corrosion issues were reported. No winter and salted roads yet.
To me that is no big surprise, since I owned a Ruckus and a PCX, both of which definitely had bad corrosion issues. So I would be surprised if the NC would be better. But lets see how mine will defend against it.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:45 PM   #3197
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That's something no one usually questions..
Honda has a history of pretty dodgy regulator/rectifiers in some models. VFR800 and CBF1000 in particular.


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Old 09-18-2012, 01:50 PM   #3198
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Honda has a history of pretty dodgy regulator/rectifiers in some models. VFR800 and CBF1000 in particular.


What?!? You mean there's a whole cottage industry devoted to fixing a pretty well documented issue that has been going on for so long it's a cultural thing within the corporation?
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:45 PM   #3199
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I have owned several Honda motorcycles, and one Honda Accord.

I am a believer in Honda quality, but they aren't perfect. I had one Honda bike that was a lemon from day one - but I loved the way it looked, sounded, and got down the road, when it actually got down the road and I didn't have to walk to someone's house to use their phone or attempt repairs on the side of the road in the rain and the dark of night, but I am over it. Really. I am.

And the Accord only broke down and left me stranded 4 times before it blew the rear main seal and I traded it for a minivan. Loved that minivan. But I am over it. Really I am.

I have also had a few Honda's that I don't think I could have killed with baseball bat.

The point is, they aren't perfect, but they are very good.

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Old 09-18-2012, 03:46 PM   #3200
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The same Honda that is known for crappy automatic transmissions.

You know the car that gave half its engine for this bike, the Fit/Jazz? I had one and the auto trans crapped out at 38,000 miles.

I wouldn't even consider the DCT especially since it is a Honda.
220,000 trouble free miles on automatic transmission in my Honda Ridgeline but irrelevant as DCT is totally different concept from it or a Fit. If someone has reliability experience with DCT that would be relevant.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:53 PM   #3201
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Yeah, I was the one that pointed that out a few pages back...try to keep up.


Honda can't build a reliable automatic transmission, that's the point.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:22 PM   #3202
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Honda announced a Stop Sell Notice on the NC700 today.

The issue is the drive chain on the bikes. All the bikes have to be inspected and if it has an D I D chain it is good to go.

If it has an RK chain it has to have RK and Japan stamped on it. Seems some have RK chains and they have failed.

My local dealer has two on the floor, one with an D I D chain and one with the RK chain.

If you have already purchased an NC700 check your chain and see what chain you have and call your dealer for info.

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:46 PM   #3203
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I have owned several Honda motorcycles, and one Honda Accord.

I am a believer in Honda quality, but they aren't perfect. I had one Honda bike that was a lemon from day one - but I loved the way it looked, sounded, and got down the road, when it actually got down the road and I didn't have to walk to someone's house to use their phone or attempt repairs on the side of the road in the rain and the dark of night, but I am over it. Really. I am.

And the Accord only broke down and left me stranded 4 times before it blew the rear main seal and I traded it for a minivan. Loved that minivan. But I am over it. Really I am.

I have also had a few Honda's that I don't think I could have killed with baseball bat.

The point is, they aren't perfect, but they are very good.

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Old 09-18-2012, 08:18 PM   #3204
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Yeah, I was the one that pointed that out a few pages back...try to keep up.


Honda can't build a reliable automatic transmission, that's the point.

The issues with Hondas auto trannys in their cars prolly have little or nothing to do with the moto division. I have owned almost exclusively Honda cars, except for two, and almost exclusively Honda bikes, since 1980. The only failure was on. My ex wifes 1997 CRV, the transmission went out at 62k miles. I went back and forth with corporate Honda, and had my dealer back me up, we got to the bottom of the issue. The tranny has two posts that hold the car from rolling when in park in many Honda automatics. There should be three. The correct way to park your auto Honda is to stop it,put on the parking brake, then place it in park.

Not before. If done this way, the weight of the vehicle rest against the brakes, not those prongs. We replaced that 97 with a 2002 CRV, and if you have been in that car, the parking brake is on the DASH, and the instructions tell you to do just what I said. Honda did not make a big deal of this change, because it would have cost them a ton of money to replace transmissions that blew after they were out of warranty. They did warrantee ours, and at a later date, issued an extended warrantee to those who had that era Oddesseys, CRVS, and accords.

My daughter just got a Fit sport, and she knows to put on the brake before putting it in park.

Did you do that with yours Larry? Just curious, not poking at you.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:34 PM   #3205
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S model is listed for 2013 on Total Motorcycle and they focus on N.A. bikes.
Canada only? or US too?
thinking if it's Canada only and the X is in the US it would be easy to get a EPA letter from Honda for US reg.
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motor...2013-Honda.htm

add to that crosstourer and crossrunner
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:16 PM   #3206
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USA claims of at least $100.00 parts 2010
honda-1.3 of 100 bikes sold
yamaha-2.1
suzuki-2.6
kawaski-3.1
bmw-3.3
triumph-16.7
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Sorry but where I live ANY part for a BMW Triumph or HD costs $100.00, So that may be just crush washers for regular service..
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:07 AM   #3207
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Honda announced a Stop Sell Notice on the NC700 today.

The issue is the drive chain on the bikes. All the bikes have to be inspected and if it has an D I D chain it is good to go.

If it has an RK chain it has to have RK and Japan stamped on it. Seems some have RK chains and they have failed.

My local dealer has two on the floor, one with an D I D chain and one with the RK chain.

If you have already purchased an NC700 check your chain and see what chain you have and call your dealer for info.

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Old 09-19-2012, 05:18 AM   #3208
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Awesome...I was getting ready to ask about maintenance. Have you gotten your front end back from the shock guys? I live in Jefferson, do you think I could come check out the bike sometime? I currently have a VFR (2000) but am considering getting one of the NCxs.
Thanks again.
You certainly may Doc, but I haven't got the front end back yet (or the Ohlins rear shock) so it is a motor and frame on my maintenance stand at the moment. I have also bought an ABS 3-piston front caliper which will be plumbed to operate from only the front control. It has not arrived yet either. Depends on whether you want to see it finished or half-way there. Of course, Jefferson is close enough you can do both.

Of course, depending on how serious a gator fan you are, you might not like my War Eagle ass. Of course, we are no threat this year to anyone above Trade School level.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:44 AM   #3209
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Thank you beemerphile for providing such good info in this thread. Ease of maintenance is pretty important to me.
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Next question: Anybody know about the Cycle World Adventure Challenge for the NC700X? There is some info here:
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I would agree with their comments about off-roadability vs. the bikes they discussed. I would add that the suspension is pretty lame as well. While I wouldn't take the bike up rutted boulder-strewn single track trails, I would consider it, properly kitted, enough "adventure bike" for a trip to Deadhorse or Inuvik. Mine will see the Trans-Labrador next year.

1) bash protection: I have the Givi engine bars and an R&G radiator cover that will adequately protect the radiator
2) A proper bash plate is needed, and I expect will come along shortly in the aftermarket
3) Ground clearance suffers (and will be a bit worse with a bash plate. Unless you want to apply a hi-bucks solution like longer fork tubes and complete custom suspension, it is what it is - not a boulder-jumper.
4) The POS seat can make a 500 mile trip an "adventure" and is better suited as landfill material. Russell coming soon.
5) Cast wheels and tubeless tires are easier to live with but not as strong. Back to the boulder-jumping restriction.
6) I would not want to endure long travel on rough roads with the stock suspension. It is a budget quality non-adjustable suspension with single rate springs and screwed damping characteristics. Both ends need fixing, but such upgrades are common on "adventure" bikes. Ever seen a GS with Wilbers or Ohlins?

It is not a KTM. It is not an 800GS. It is not even a KLR. But with a bit of farkling, I think it will be an interesting lightweight long distance machine that is capable of unimproved roads. You won't see mine in single-track trying to pass KTM's in the whoopdie-doos. But I will take it places you don't see the typical street bikes.

ETA:
I thought I'd just add my rationale for the bike. I was looking for a lightweight standard that I could outfit for LD travel. I just finished Alaska, Yukon, and NWT on my BMW R1150R and although I have a picture of it at Deadhorse covered with muck and wearing Metzeler Marathon street tires, it worked me to death in the construction zones and heavy rain because of its size and weight, not because it did not have the ability to land from 10 foot jumps. It was just too damned heavy. Yes, I could have used a KTM 990, but for 90% of the 13,200 miles, the R1150R was a better ride. I could have used an R1200GS, but it is just as big and heavy. The two lightweight standards that emerged as co-contestants were the NC700x and the KTM 990SM-T. Both had street wheels and no bash protection. I had to decide between practicality and testosterone. Though the SM-T is the most thoroughly satisfying bike I have ever ridden, I chose the Honda because in my recent 13,200 mile trip I recall there was often only regular gas, which the NC consumes as daily diet. There were no repair shops or parts sources, so reliability was paramount. A 1 gallon RotoPax could take me 72 miles on the NC or 38 miles on the SM-T. I am bad to collect speeding tickets anyway, so... When I finish I will have a lightweight,economical, dependable bike for long distance riding that is capable of the unimproved roads that I like to travel. I have fallen in love with the desolate parts of upper Canada and was looking to build a bike for exploring it further. I think I have found a good basic platform on which to build it. I don't care what it was marketed as or intended for. I don't care if it is a "real" adventure bike or a wannabe. I only care that it does well what I want it to do. I think the NC700x is unique in some of its attributes. I am really enjoying the motorcycle and I intend to fully test its limits.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:41 AM   #3210
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You certainly may Doc, but I haven't got the front end back yet (or the Ohlins rear shock) so it is a motor and frame on my maintenance stand at the moment. I have also bought an ABS 3-piston front caliper which will be plumbed to operate from only the front control. It has not arrived yet either. Depends on whether you want to see it finished or half-way there. Of course, Jefferson is close enough you can do both.

Of course, depending on how serious a gator fan you are, you might not like my War Eagle ass. Of course, we are no threat this year to anyone above Trade School level.
PM sent...It's unlikely I'd like your ass even if you were also a Gator...


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