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Old 12-09-2012, 07:01 AM   #3676
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You don't bench press a motorcycle, you ride it. This Honda feels 75 pounds lighter than it is. It's never going to be a 350 lb dirt bike with minimal DOT lighting, it's a street bike you will be able to ride 100,000 miles with minimal drama.

Better brakes? The two piston front caliper model stops shorter than the Versys or the DL650 and that stopping distance places it in the middle of the current crop of 600cc sportbikes. What better brakes do you think it needs?

Out of the box the many press and video reviews out there generally praise the budget suspension as do many owners. If you need to upgrade it Ohlins and RaceTech only charge about $1200 for a new shock and fork make-over. Then you will have the suspension you need without making the rest of us pay for what we don't need.
I agree with you on all points, except that you must have not priced an Ohlins shock recently. The shock alone will be about $1200.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:04 AM   #3677
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Now lighten it up, give it good suspension and brakes, and I'm (maybe) in. Economy doesn't have to be cheap. They're almost there...
I have locked both the front and back brake with ease several times. I'm not getting the need for better brakes, unless you just want ABS to be standard.

The shocks can be upgraded, if needed. They are adequate on pavement and gravel roads for the majority of riders this bike is marketed for.

The times I want a better suspension, is when I'm on very rough dirt roads that have limestone protruding up to 4'' from the surface, so replacing the shocks is on my list, after a skid-plate.
I just have to slow down, when on these.

The aftermarket already has the replacement parts, minus skid-plate when I can afford it.

If you were complaining about the seat, I would be in total agreement. The after market is already on that also.


I have about 4300 miles on mine now, averaging 69 mpg. Anything that I don't like just takes a little saving up.
I wouldn't be on the NCX yet if all the mods were already done. At least this way I can put what I want on it, not what someone else wanted.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:05 AM   #3678
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I have yet to ride a motorcycle that isn't 'fun' on some level. However 45hp out of 700cc's seems like such a waste. I get that the motor will be severely under stressed and incredibly reliable and efficient. Good job Honda. Just seems blah to me. But hey, different strokes for different folks I guess.

I suppose as a second bike purely for commuting it makes sense. As an only bike though? Wouldn't have it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:06 AM   #3679
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I agree with you on all points, except that you must have not priced an Ohlins shock recently. The shock alone will be about $1200.
Heres one for $617.00 http://www.solomotoparts.com/Ohlins-...for-NC700X-12/
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:45 AM   #3680
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I found the brakes to be fine on my test ride.

I did find the supension to be a little harsh on a rough section of road. Admittedly we didn't bother with preload or anything else to set up the bike. The dealer asked if I wanted a test ride and I jumped on it - literally
I'm a big (i.e. fat) guy so I would imagine that someone of more petite dimensions would have found it quite stiff.

I've ridden the same stretch of road on my BMW and never even noticed it was that rough.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:48 AM   #3681
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Has there been any word from Honda as to whether or not the NC700X is continued for 2013, and if so, are there any changes planned, such as color, performance, etc.?

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NC700 production will soon be moved from Japan to Thailand.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:58 AM   #3682
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You don't bench press a motorcycle, you ride it. This Honda feels 75 pounds lighter than it is. It's never going to be a 350 lb dirt bike with minimal DOT lighting, it's a street bike you will be able to ride 100,000 miles with minimal drama.

Better brakes? The two piston front caliper model stops shorter than the Versys or the DL650 and that stopping distance places it in the middle of the current crop of 600cc sportbikes. What better brakes do you think it needs?
+1 on both brakes and suspension.

That thing stops and has better suspension then my 07 Ninja 650R, and
that bike was a lot faster.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:11 AM   #3683
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Ah, thanks for that info. I wish they had one for anywhere near that price for my Super Tenere.

http://www.solomotoparts.com/Ohlins-...-Tenere-10-12/

They do have a good price for the Super Tenere shock, though. I emailed them to find out if that shock is custom built for rider weight and riding style, as is the norm for most top dollar shocks.

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Old 12-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #3684
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NC700 production will soon be moved from Japan to Thailand.
Glad I got a Japanese model then.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:21 AM   #3685
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Glad I got a Japanese model then.
My new T100 was built in Thailand and it's a beautiful machine. I did some research and if I'm not mistaken they've been built there since '07. Doesn't bother me.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:22 AM   #3686
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Glad I got a Japanese model then.
Why?

They didn't even start making them over there, and you already
somehow know that the Japanese model will be better?

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Old 12-09-2012, 10:39 AM   #3687
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Why?

They didn't even start making them over there, and you already
somehow know that the Japanese model will be better?

I think it has to do with Honda seeking to save money, and here in the US it reminds us of the jobs that left our country for cheaper labor. Japan products, cars and electronics are generally top quality. The recall on the chain on the NC came about with out-sourced manufacturing with a Japanese product.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:05 AM   #3688
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I have locked both the front and back brake with ease several times. I'm not getting the need for better brakes, unless you just want ABS to be standard.

The shocks can be upgraded, if needed. They are adequate on pavement and gravel roads for the majority of riders this bike is marketed for.

The times I want a better suspension, is when I'm on very rough dirt roads that have limestone protruding up to 4'' from the surface, so replacing the shocks is on my list, after a skid-plate.
I just have to slow down, when on these.

The aftermarket already has the replacement parts, minus skid-plate when I can afford it.

If you were complaining about the seat, I would be in total agreement. The after market is already on that also.


I have about 4300 miles on mine now, averaging 69 mpg. Anything that I don't like just takes a little saving up.
I wouldn't be on the NCX yet if all the mods were already done. At least this way I can put what I want on it, not what someone else wanted.
Woo doggie! Folks who are a little overly defensive of their choice of motorcycle model? I've never heard of such a thing...I'm just commenting on what I've read thus far and what I'd like to see different from what's been reported (At least in a number of places.). If the reports are wrong, awesome. Carry on. It's just a preference. I'm looking for a high-end, practical, economical, do-it-all bike, not a price-point one. That includes sporty road riding, which should include lower weight (especially considering the limited power of the bike) and high quality, fully adjustable suspension. That's what I'd like to see. If that doesn't work for you, that's perfectly fine. Everybody just breathe...
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:49 PM   #3689
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The thread got started with about EIGHT HUNDRED posts of speculation and pontification based on nothing but having seen the spec sheet....all this before anybody had so much as taken a test ride or even seen one.

We have since had a shift to having people who have at least test ridden one and quite a number of people who actually own one and are very satisfied with the bike....some more satisfied, perhaps, than they themselves expected to be based on the spec sheet numbers.

We're not being defensive of our choice of bikes, we just find it annoying when we get dragged back to the early days of the discussion by yet another person who saw the spec sheet and felt a need to bolster his own ego by piping up and telling us that our bike isn't up to his own high standards. The discussion has moved on.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:57 PM   #3690
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The thread got started with about EIGHT HUNDRED posts of speculation and pontification based on nothing but having seen the spec sheet....all this before anybody had so much as taken a test ride or even seen one.

We have since had a shift to having people who have at least test ridden one and quite a number of people who actually own one and are very satisfied with the bike....some more satisfied, perhaps, than they themselves expected to be based on the spec sheet numbers.

We're not being defensive of our choice of bikes, we just find it annoying when we get dragged back to the early days of the discussion by yet another person who saw the spec sheet and felt a need to bolster his own ego by piping up and telling us that our bike isn't up to his own high standards. The discussion has moved on.
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