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Old 02-23-2012, 04:24 AM   #931
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I looked at the NC700X in a dealership yesterday. It was the red and black model and they had it sitting as the main attraction in the middle of the showroom. It took me all of 5 seconds to fall in love with the bike.
I'm looking for a comfortable, economical, weekend tourer.

I will be taking it on a test drive in a few weeks time.

While thinking about the bike I came up with (what I think is) a good idea.

The bike has a 3.1 gal imp. tank which will give between 210-240 mile range.
But it has a very nice 21 litre helmet storage area at the front.
If a removable spare fuel tank could be made to fit into that area it might allow for another 16 litres of fuel.
Therefore a extra range of 240-270 miles and a grand total of 450-510 miles.

I imagine that Honda or after market manufacturers will have already come up with this idea but I can't find anything online about it. Does anyone know if there is something like this on the horizon?
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:52 AM   #932
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While thinking about the bike I came up with (what I think is) a good idea.

The bike has a 3.1 gal imp. tank which will give between 210-240 mile range.
But it has a very nice 21 litre helmet storage area at the front.
If a removable spare fuel tank could be made to fit into that area it might allow for another 16 litres of fuel.
Therefore a extra range of 240-270 miles and a grand total of 450-510 miles.

I imagine that Honda or after market manufacturers will have already come up with this idea but I can't find anything online about it. Does anyone know if there is something like this on the horizon?
My thoughts exactly. I have a Yamaha TMax with a similar layout. I would easily trade some of the storage for gas. It is especially a good trade for the NC700 where the difference can be made up with proper side cases (not the Honda offerings). However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on the aftermarket to do something like this unless it becomes an Iron Butt favorite. I am looking at this bike as well (as a TMax replacement) and would likely fabricate something - piped into the main supply.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:06 AM   #933
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"I posted this earlier in the wrong thread"

I looked at the NC700X in a dealership yesterday. It was the red and black model and they had it sitting as the main attraction in the middle of the showroom. It took me all of 5 seconds to fall in love with the bike.
I'm looking for a comfortable, economical, weekend tourer.

I will be taking it on a test drive in a few weeks time.

While thinking about the bike I came up with (what I think is) a good idea.

The bike has a 3.1 gal imp. tank which will give between 210-240 mile range.
But it has a very nice 21 litre helmet storage area at the front.
If a removable spare fuel tank could be made to fit into that area it might allow for another 16 litres of fuel.
Therefore a extra range of 240-270 miles and a grand total of 450-510 miles.

I imagine that Honda or after market manufacturers will have already come up with this idea but I can't find anything online about it. Does anyone know if there is something like this on the horizon?
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:23 AM   #934
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In all fairness I am making these statements based on such mundane evidence of actually owning and running an NC...............
how about your impressions of the bike so far. is it fun? how does it handle? pics are nice too.....


I sat on one at the gothenburg show last month, and i liked the idea, but the pillion seat seemed minimal and the seat to peg distance a little tight for my height (6'3").
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:52 AM   #935
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The bike has a 3.1 gal imp. tank which will give between 210-240 mile range.
But it has a very nice 21 litre helmet storage area at the front.
If a removable spare fuel tank could be made to fit into that area it might allow for another 16 litres of fuel.
Therefore a extra range of 240-270 miles and a grand total of 450-510 miles.
I don't think my knees and butt has that much range...

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I imagine that Honda or after market manufacturers will have already come up with this idea but I can't find anything online about it. Does anyone know if there is something like this on the horizon?
I doubt Honda would do that because they would have to get it DOT (legal certification) approved which is expensive. And the aftermarket as well either because of the liability issue, it is fuel after all.

But a pony tank or even extending the stock tank into an endurance tank would be fairly simple to DIY.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #936
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"I posted this earlier in the wrong thread"

I looked at the NC700X in a dealership yesterday. It was the red and black model and they had it sitting as the main attraction in the middle of the showroom. It took me all of 5 seconds to fall in love with the bike.
I'm looking for a comfortable, economical, weekend tourer.

I will be taking it on a test drive in a few weeks time.

While thinking about the bike I came up with (what I think is) a good idea.

The bike has a 3.1 gal imp. tank which will give between 210-240 mile range.
But it has a very nice 21 litre helmet storage area at the front.
If a removable spare fuel tank could be made to fit into that area it might allow for another 16 litres of fuel.
Therefore a extra range of 240-270 miles and a grand total of 450-510 miles.

I imagine that Honda or after market manufacturers will have already come up with this idea but I can't find anything online about it. Does anyone know if there is something like this on the horizon?
This will never ever pass certification in EU, therefore do not expect anything from Honda on that. UNLESS there will be some crazy strong lobby for that and Honda will decide to spend lots of cash on doing it. As if they ever done it...it is business, not charity.
This is budget bike. Budget = no money spent on R&D developing options.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:30 AM   #937
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If a removable spare fuel tank could be made to fit into that area it might allow for another 16 litres of fuel.
Therefore a extra range of 240-270 miles and a grand total of 450-510 miles.
Talk to your local iron butt and road rally guys. The only safe way to do that is with a rigid mounted, *grounded*, properly plumbed tank, likely with its own fuel pump. You can't just gravity feed back to the main tank because it would overflow.

There aren't many places where 200 miles isn't enough, and a couple of MSR bottles in the cavity would get you another 40 miles, if needed...
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:55 AM   #938
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This will never ever pass certification in EU, therefore do not expect anything from Honda on that. UNLESS there will be some crazy strong lobby for that and Honda will decide to spend lots of cash on doing it. As if they ever done it...it is business, not charity.
This is budget bike. Budget = no money spent on R&D developing options.
I was thinking more along the lines of a helmet space shaped Jerry Can.
Something I could lift out and refuel the main tank with.

That way I could ride until I run out of fuel in the main tank and know that my Jerry Can has more than enough to get me back to civilization. I hate having to plan trips around petrol stations.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:58 AM   #939
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just get a 2 gallon plastic fuel jug and carry it in the storage area... for those RARE times when a 200+ mile range isn't enough.
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:20 AM   #940
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just get a 2 gallon plastic fuel jug and carry it in the storage area...
That is a very bad idea.

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Old 02-23-2012, 10:28 AM   #941
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Makes sense. I am sure you can order it custom-made from aluminium or steel in "custom shop". It is not very complicated shape.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:34 AM   #942
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.it is business, not charity..
You learn something new every day.
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This is budget bike. Budget = no money spent on R&D developing options.
I think it's funny that some people consider every new bike that does not have $12,000 or more price tag a budget bike.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:01 PM   #943
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That is a very bad idea.
I was about to say that you can't have too much gasoline unless you are on fire, but... It's OK to stop without buying gas. I like to ride about 300 miles between stops so some extra gas means less stops in a travel day. The welded aluminum aux. tank on my BMW is grounded, foam-filled, plumbed with Aeroquip hose, has a rollover shut-off valve, pivots back to allow underseat access and all that but it IS gravity feed to the main tank with no pump. Fill the main tank, close it, fill the aux. tank. The main tank is vented thru the aux tank. Just don't open the main tank cap when there is gas in the aux. tank. The aux. tank empties first. It would be easy to mount a similar aux. tank on the lid (passenger seat) of the NC700x but using the "trunk" area would be cleaner, preserve passenger capability, and have a lower center of gravity.

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Old 02-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #944
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I think that's funny that some people look at bike made with budget (sufficient, but budget) suspension, reusing quite old brakes components (sufficient, but budget) and engine, originally designed for flagship scooter and priced at 6000 Euro and think it is not budget bike.
And I think that looking at every budget vs. non budget (does not mean 12000 tag) bike made by Japanese manufacturers makes it kinda clear what are target bikes for creating factory options.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:12 PM   #945
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how about your impressions of the bike so far. is it fun? how does it handle? pics are nice too.....


I sat on one at the gothenburg show last month, and i liked the idea, but the pillion seat seemed minimal and the seat to peg distance a little tight for my height (6'3").
Hi Impressions so far are

Pros

Very comfortable, great riding position, extremely easy to ride, feels very light (this is strange but true), bags of low down torque, good overtaking performance at everyday road speeds, really economical, solid/safe handling, ABS is outstanding, brilliant gearbox, seat is much better than the press would have you believe, overall quality is excellent (see below for caveat), superb instruments (see caveat below), much quicker than the figures suggest, under tank storage is really neat, typical corporate Honda

Cons

Total lack of engine braking has caught me out a couple of times, brakes need a good fistful to haul you up quickly, suspension can be a bit choppy over poor surfaces, some of the components feel "bargain bucket", short front mudguard puts radiator at risk in poor weather, lack of hugger means the back end gets covered in crap constantly, wish it had a gear indicator/average fuel consumption display, typical corporate Honda

Overall

I am chuffed with the NC700XA. It is everything i brought it for (cheap to buy, cheap to run, will probably last forever and looks good)

Caveat

Part of the problem is probably the cultural and social differences between life in the UK and the USA. We are a small, overcrowded country. We ride on extremely busy, small roads with relatively short distances between major towns. Costs here are comparatively expensive (fuel is $10+ per gallon (imp), road tax is $180, insurance $400) and getting more expensive daily. I pay a large proportion of my salary as a nurse in tax to fund the NHS, Police, Social Security etc etc and i cant even own a gun (or a knife) to protect myself or my family.

In short we are very different. That is why i understand that America may not "get" the NC700XA, and thats cool. The NC700XA fits my life superbly.
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