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Old 11-07-2011, 08:48 PM   #121
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What is it about your being in sunny Mexico, that's seemingly exacerbated your acid reflux, eakins.
If inmates are supplying up to date photos / information / technical specs etc.,
a simple atta boy should suffice. IMO

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atta boy two plugs. thanks for the insider info!
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it's cool to see all the new bikes this time of year.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:53 PM   #122
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So I take it we won't be seeing a flurry of inmates, demanding it be imported to NA ?
Aehm. Can we please have these "creatures" banned from import to NA?



Seriously, I was riding Hondas in the 90s, but these derailed designs are just too much. Somebody must be seriously screwed up to let something like this pass the first prototype stages ... but okay, the world in general and Japanese designers aren't especially known for good taste ...

Even better times coming for BMW and Triumph.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:54 PM   #123
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atta boy two plugs. thanks for the insider info!
much appreciated.
it's cool to see all the new bikes this time of year.
Eakins is a gentleman and a scholar, see.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:55 PM   #124
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I knew you had it in you, after all it is sunny Mexico !
I hope everything is going well for you eakins and thanks for your many informative postings !

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Old 11-07-2011, 08:58 PM   #125
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Aehm. Can we please have these "creatures" banned from import to NA?



Seriously, I was riding Hondas in the 90s, but these derailed designs are just too much. Somebody must be seriously screwed up to let something like this pass the first prototype stages ... but okay, the world in general and Japanese designers aren't especially known for good taste ...

Even better times coming for BMW and Triumph.
Cug , you are just getting old mate.

These designs are for the hip and happening younger generation.

And that last sentence just dates me as well.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:58 PM   #126
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Eakins is a gentleman and a scholar, see.
i need to watch out. people will expect me to be nice all the time now.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:04 PM   #127
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Funny, I saw that as pretty sarcastic.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:17 PM   #128
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Cug , you are just getting old mate.
That might be it. But I wouldn't have liked it 20 years ago either ... it plain doesn't have proper proportions and contours. Whatever.

So happy that I normally don't have to deal all too much with ugly design in my day to day life.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:20 PM   #129
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Funny, I saw that as pretty sarcastic.
my wife tells me to calm down all the time.
i'm from the north east so i was born with it.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:28 PM   #130
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That might be it. But I wouldn't have liked it 20 years ago either ... it plain doesn't have proper proportions and contours. Whatever.

So happy that I normally don't have to deal all too much with ugly design in my day to day life.
Go and get used to the new Versys 1000 and then come back and tell me how you like the Honda.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:33 PM   #131
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Go and get used to the new Versys 1000 and then come back and tell me how you like the Honda.
Oh my, couldn't you have spared me that? I'm still having a bad feeling in my stomach ...
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:38 PM   #132
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Seriously I think latest Honda "adventure" bikes like NC700X , Crossrunner and Crosstourer belong to WTF thread down in "Jo Mamma"
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:39 AM   #133
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Nope - I'm not with Honda. If I was, we wouldn't be wining around here about shattered dreams and dissapointing designs.

If I was with Honda, we would be drooling around an modern state-of-the-art Africa Twin successor.

And the pics? Come on. It's 2011 - almost 2012! Pictures of this bike (and the Crosstourer) are widely available everywhere on the Internet... I only did some copy-paste...

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Old 11-08-2011, 06:05 AM   #134
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There's a new suffix afoot... AR* - and a new marketing strategy to go with it!

Look at the billions of dollars Honda have made off their RR bikes... it's true that race replicas can be taken out to the track or track like environment and will give a glowing performance under the right jockey - but Honda have surmised that the miniscule percentage of their AR* buyers will never put it to the test so why waste the time, effort and dollars pretending they might.

So the directive to the design team went something like this:

Gee guys... can't you just make it look like an Adventure (read Adventure Replica* - asterisk denotes faux) - forget the performance capability as our target market will only 'venture as far as [insert favourite coffe shop here] We can still sell it for a price reflective of perceived performance... and just pocket the dollars we'd normally invest in engineering and deliverables, as extra profit.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:38 AM   #135
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Nail being hit solid on the head

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There's a new suffix afoot... AR* - and a new marketing strategy to go with it!

Look at the billions of dollars Honda have made off their RR bikes... it's true that race replicas can be taken out to the track or track like environment and will give a glowing performance under the right jockey - but Honda have surmised that the miniscule percentage of their AR* buyers will never put it to the test so why waste the time, effort and dollars pretending they might.

So the directive to the design team went something like this:

Gee guys... can't you just make it look like an Adventure (read Adventure Replica* - asterisk denotes faux) - forget the performance capability as our target market will only 'venture as far as [insert favourite coffe shop here] We can still sell it for a price reflective of perceived performance... and just pocket the dollars we'd normally invest in engineering and deliverables, as extra profit.

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