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 08-13-2014, 06:06 PM #2 4play Next?     Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Avondale, AZ Oddometer: 2,602 You could do something like this: The backside; That's two ADVmonster 60's. 3600 lumens each, 56w total. With the rotary dimmer it doesn't seem to bother anyone on the road & the night vision is excellent. Trail riding people see me WAY before they see the bike. __________________ Family isn't always about blood
 08-18-2014, 05:51 PM #3 NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer     Joined: Jan 2009 Location: The Big Mitten Oddometer: 476 Power limitations Keep in mind how much power your bike puts out. You can easily over load the stator and burn it out. Just sayin'.... and don't ask me how I know!
08-18-2014, 06:01 PM   #4
4play
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Location: Avondale, AZ
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 Originally Posted by NorthernTraveler Keep in mind how much power your bike puts out. You can easily over load the stator and burn it out. Just sayin'.... and don't ask me how I know!
Almost all motorcycles use a shunt style regulator, the stators run WFO all the time with the regulator shorting out the excess to maintain ~14 volts.
Your logic is flawed, Just saying
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08-18-2014, 06:54 PM   #5
k-moe

Joined: Jun 2012
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by 4play Almost all motorcycles use a shunt style regulator, the stators run WFO all the time with the regulator shorting out the excess to maintain ~14 volts. Your logic is flawed, Just saying
You can easily fry a stator by drawing too many amps. Just saying.

P = V I
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08-18-2014, 09:08 PM   #6
4play
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Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Avondale, AZ
Oddometer: 2,602
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 Originally Posted by k-moe You can easily fry a stator by drawing too many amps. Just saying. P = V I

A permanent magnet alternator is running WFO all the time. If there is no demand a shunt type regulator grounds the output, a direct short of the output. You are not going to hurt it with too big of a bulb.

An alternator with load coils instead of permanent magnets like on a car is a different story.
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 08-20-2014, 05:29 PM #7 k-moe Beastly Adventurer     Joined: Jun 2012 Oddometer: 2,893 Applying current loads that exceed the rated output of ANY alternator WILL cause the windings to heat up excessively and WILL eventually damage the alternator. How fast that happens depends on how much the current demand overage is, how well the alternator is cooled, and how often the overage is applied. For illustration; 20 amp (rated) alternator will not be happy when it's being asked to supply 30 amps. Then there's the associated risk of overloading the rated capacity of the wiring. Any electrical changes must fall within the rated parameters of the entire system, or a fella is going to get himself one or more of: constantly blown fuses, a damaged part, stranded after dark without a working headlight, or an electrical fire. __________________ Mixing metaphors is like killing two birds with a dog that won't hunt. k-moe screwed with this post 08-20-2014 at 05:37 PM
 08-20-2014, 07:48 PM #8 DavisWelding Banned   Joined: Feb 2014 Location: Mexico, Colorado Oddometer: 845 A bit heavy but you will see everything! Dual 4" HID, 35w each (one euro beam and one spot beam)
08-24-2014, 04:53 AM   #9
Leo.G OP
Is still learning

Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Marcos Juárez, Córdoba, Argentina
Oddometer: 400
Thanks for the inputs!

I'm in a little problem here just because of the money...

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 Originally Posted by DavisWelding A bit heavy but you will see everything! Dual 4" HID, 35w each (one euro beam and one spot beam)
But just in case, how much would a pair of those headlights be? Are they street legal?

The idea now is to do this.. (cell phone pic)

Just take the stock fender down, but not so much, and put a round headlight without any projector, with the option of putting a xenon equipment in the future or not...

The reason for not taking the fender really low, almost touching the wheel like street bikes or like the big trail bikes use to have is because I live in an area that is a little humid, and we have at least 3 or 4 weeks of damp weather, or rain, and also the streets in my neigborhood aren't paved (you can imagine how they get after 2 rainy days). And well, I don't want to block my front wheel then.. heh.

Thanks again!
I haven't thought I would get so many answers for this!
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 08-26-2014, 07:39 AM #10 Bronco638 Nobody Home     Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Itasca, IL Oddometer: 4,087 Hey Leo! How about this: That's my 2002 XR250R which should be the same thing as your Tornado (or pretty close). I like 4Play's idea, too. He appears to be using the same lights as the low one in my fairing. __________________ There are some simple thruths......and dogs know what they are - Joseph Duemer Andy holds the lead. And he will, all the way to the Highway. Today is his day.
09-03-2014, 06:44 PM   #11
Leo.G OP
Is still learning

Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Marcos Juárez, Córdoba, Argentina
Oddometer: 400
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Bronco638 Hey Leo! How about this: That's my 2002 XR250R which should be the same thing as your Tornado (or pretty close). I like 4Play's idea, too. He appears to be using the same lights as the low one in my fairing.
Thanks dave!
It's more or less the same, but with a different engine, yours is the classic RFVC, isn't it? Mine is more similar to the XL 250 Degree or the NX 250 (But oil cooled instead of water cooled)

It's a really nice set up that one with leds and the fairing.. but I have two questions...
How much does something like that cost?
Is the pattern of the lights road legal or off road only?
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 09-04-2014, 06:44 AM #12 Bronco638 Nobody Home     Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Itasca, IL Oddometer: 4,087 Yes Leo, RFVC engine. The entire fairing set-up is going to be just north of \$300 (not cheap). That's \$170 for the fairing, \$120 for the lights and you'll need a controller, too. The LEDs are not approved for street use but I've been using them to commute. The low beam (Model 44 Flood) is pretty tame. The high beam (Model 30 Spot) is very bright. I don't ride at night much so I haven't had any trouble with cars being blinded or law enforcement pulling me over. __________________ There are some simple thruths......and dogs know what they are - Joseph Duemer Andy holds the lead. And he will, all the way to the Highway. Today is his day.
09-04-2014, 12:19 PM   #13
DavisWelding
Banned

Joined: Feb 2014
Oddometer: 845
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Leo.G Thanks for the inputs! I'm in a little problem here just because of the money... But just in case, how much would a pair of those headlights be? Are they street legal? The idea now is to do this.. (cell phone pic) Just take the stock fender down, but not so much, and put a round headlight without any projector, with the option of putting a xenon equipment in the future or not... The reason for not taking the fender really low, almost touching the wheel like street bikes or like the big trail bikes use to have is because I live in an area that is a little humid, and we have at least 3 or 4 weeks of damp weather, or rain, and also the streets in my neigborhood aren't paved (you can imagine how they get after 2 rainy days). And well, I don't want to block my front wheel then.. heh. Thanks again! I haven't thought I would get so many answers for this!

Those 4" HIDs are \$100 each but I have been looking in to the 4" LEDs on ebayand they are about \$60 each, half the watts required to run them but just as many lumens. The LEDs I was lookinh at are AC/DC up to 35v. I'll see if I can find them again!

 09-05-2014, 06:47 AM #14 johnson Gnarly Adventurer   Joined: Jul 2008 Oddometer: 158
 09-10-2014, 06:04 PM #15 clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser     Joined: May 2004 Location: Rotoiti, New Zealand Oddometer: 3,549 Hi Mate, did you see my 7" headlight setup build in the main garage section: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1003545 Low \$, high output Cheers Clint __________________ '03 KTM 640 LC4 Enduro The wilderness, the desert - why are they not crowded .................................................. .....with pilgrims?

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