AMA Pro Roadracing 2012 Non-Spoiler Catch-All Thread - Page 5

wrk2surf · 11-17-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pantah

Slick; becoming my all time AMA fav champion. He's 2x championships on customer teams owned by Ritchie Morris (how could that be?)...freakin' Buell and then a generic Suzuki. Doesn't get much better for us scratchers. I hope he keeps kicking his critics down.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=46435

seems he lost his ride.. hes a great rider but has issues like a lot of great ones..

zenjen · 11-17-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wrk2surf

seems he lost his ride.. hes a great rider but has issues like a lot of great ones..

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/ro...in-eslick-out/

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Tom W. · 11-17-2011, 12:24 PM

I hope somebody can find the money to put Eslick on an EBR.

Crazy that (at least as far as we know) T. Hayden and Eslick are both without rides at this point.

Pantah · 11-17-2011, 12:43 PM

I am inclined to believe Eslick. We all knew he wanted to race the top class, and Cardenes surely didn't want to go back to the 600's! GEICO probably didn't like the size of the budget required to be competitive with Graves and Yosh. Meanwhile, I sure wish Cardenes was racing a Superbike, but he's not so there has to be a reason bigger than GEICO. Probably a Japanese company notably pulling back from motorcycle racing...

shrineclown · 11-17-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantah

I am inclined to believe Eslick. We all knew he wanted to race the top class, and Cardenes surely didn't want to go back to the 600's! GEICO probably didn't like the size of the budget required to be competitive with Graves and Yosh. Meanwhile, I sure wish Cardenes was racing a Superbike, but he's not so there has to be a reason bigger than GEICO. Probably a Japanese company notably pulling back from motorcycle racing...

Makes sense, an onion that is making my eyes water.

Tom W. · 11-17-2011, 01:06 PM

But surely Eslick would rather race Sportbike than sit out the season.

Does that imply he has a ride that just hasn't been announced yet?

And any speculation on who the new RMR rider will be? And will Richie get a sponsor to match Geico?

wrk2surf · 11-17-2011, 01:25 PM

any racer in this economy would be not very intelligent not to take ANY ride.. I tend to not belive him.. but..maybe he wanted more money having those plates.. whatever did happen he should have stayed..im sure the team wanted him more than Martin C...

Pantah · 11-17-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wrk2surf

any racer in this economy would be not very intelligent not to take ANY ride.. I tend to not belive him.. but..maybe he wanted more money having those plates.. whatever did happen he should have stayed..im sure the team wanted him more than Martin C...

It's not the same team. John Ulrich poached Geico from Richie Morris Racing. Like I hinted earlier, Suzuki probably was at the center of it. Suzuki drops a championship team and takes the golden goose with them to a 20 year relationship to beef up their Daytona Sportbike effort. Suzuki saves, Geico saves, Ulrich saves, and all have a good shot at another title.

Eslick is out because he wants a 1000 to race and so is Richie Morris. But don't count either of them out. Richie landed Geico in the first place. Eslick won championships two out of the three years they were together. There is sponsorship out there for both if AMA Pro can promise enough TV. Eslick and Morris racing will not be back markers. Thy'll get their TV time no matter where they end up.

wrk2surf · 11-17-2011, 04:57 PM

thats what Zemke, Roger Lee and a handfull of others thought in the last year .. late in the game for 2012 to be without sponsorship we will see... all the way around the sponsorship deals are far and few between.. hell it trickled all the way down to sportsman guys like me.. no free rides

Tom W. · 11-17-2011, 05:37 PM

I don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes, but it seems to me that any team that does nothing but win championships for their sponsor deserves to keep that sponser.

Hopefully Danny and Richie will both do well, but I can't help feeling a bad taste in my mouth.

And I have nothing but respect for Team Hammer and Cardenas, but it almost seems like 'claim-jumping' to me. Maybe when all the facts are out it will be clearer what happened, but I'm going to have a little trouble, emotionally, getting behind Cardenas until I have a better understanding of what went down.

Motorcyclist · 11-17-2011, 06:15 PM

The rumor of indiscretions at a GEICO company function is pretty cool, that kid is an old school racer

I enjoy watching Eslick a great deal, and I hope he lands a competitive ride.

yooperbikemike · 11-17-2011, 07:44 PM

benny solis to move to the ama pro racing daytona sportbike class for 2012 on a ridersdiscount.com vesrah suzuki gsx-r 600

shrineclown · 11-17-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorcyclist

The rumor of indiscretions at a GEICO company function is pretty cool, that kid is an old school racer

I enjoy watching Eslick a great deal, and I hope he lands a competitive ride.

Oh, you can't just throw that out there and leave it hanging. We need a link.

zenjen · 11-18-2011, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shrineclown

Oh, you can't just throw that out there and leave it hanging. We need a link.

It's in this link, but no details.

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/ro...in-eslick-out/

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Tom W. · 11-18-2011, 07:04 AM

Internet rumors (and we all know how much those are worth) are starting to suggest Eslick will be going with EBR. Richie M. mentions that it was known since Mid-Ohio that Danny would be leaving and, coincidentally, Mid-Ohio was the debut of the 1190RS.

There were rumors, around that time, that Geoff May would be out at EBR (I'm hoping they can find a way to finance them both, but if it becomes a matter of one or the other, I'd have to think EBR would go with Eslick).

Also, Danny has been hinting that he has something lined up that hasn't been finalized.

While I'd like to see Aprilia, Ducati, MV Augusta, KTM and BMW all taking advantage of the wealth of talent and lack of rides, the factories seem to still be very tentative. EBR would certainly have an interest in and history with Eslick, so I'm thinking that may be what's going on.

11-17-2011, 12:43 PM	#64
Pantah Red Sox Nation Joined: Oct 2004 Location: India Wharf Oddometer: 8,900	I am inclined to believe Eslick. We all knew he wanted to race the top class, and Cardenes surely didn't want to go back to the 600's! GEICO probably didn't like the size of the budget required to be competitive with Graves and Yosh. Meanwhile, I sure wish Cardenes was racing a Superbike, but he's not so there has to be a reason bigger than GEICO. Probably a Japanese company notably pulling back from motorcycle racing... __________________ Straight ahead and faster -Bo Weaver 1970 "There I was..." -Griffin Niner Three Hotel

11-17-2011, 01:25 PM	#67
wrk2surf BITD/Rallye Joined: Dec 2007 Location: THE exact center of California/Bass lake/Yosemite Oddometer: 5,308	any racer in this economy would be not very intelligent not to take ANY ride.. I tend to not belive him.. but..maybe he wanted more money having those plates.. whatever did happen he should have stayed..im sure the team wanted him more than Martin C... __________________ Thanks for the 2013 support: DUNLOP, BELL HELMETS, Kriega USA, Carbon-pro.com, Ride 100% Goggles, Renazco Racing, Sidi/Motonation, Acerbis USA,KLeN, FMF, Mx1west,,Masters paint and body, Magura , motolab ,and Freedom Cycle

11-17-2011, 04:57 PM	#69
wrk2surf BITD/Rallye Joined: Dec 2007 Location: THE exact center of California/Bass lake/Yosemite Oddometer: 5,308	thats what Zemke, Roger Lee and a handfull of others thought in the last year .. late in the game for 2012 to be without sponsorship we will see... all the way around the sponsorship deals are far and few between.. hell it trickled all the way down to sportsman guys like me.. no free rides __________________ Thanks for the 2013 support: DUNLOP, BELL HELMETS, Kriega USA, Carbon-pro.com, Ride 100% Goggles, Renazco Racing, Sidi/Motonation, Acerbis USA,KLeN, FMF, Mx1west,,Masters paint and body, Magura , motolab ,and Freedom Cycle

11-17-2011, 07:44 PM	#72
yooperbikemike ^OP high, wide and handsome Joined: Apr 2003 Location: The blue groove Oddometer: 11,744	benny solis to move to the ama pro racing daytona sportbike class for 2012 on a ridersdiscount.com vesrah suzuki gsx-r 600 __________________ "...people in the stands want to see good, close racing. The thing is to put on a show, and that’s what’s going to draw people in..." -- Scotty Parker

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11-17-2011, 12:24 PM	#63
Tom W. Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2005 Oddometer: 291	I hope somebody can find the money to put Eslick on an EBR. Crazy that (at least as far as we know) T. Hayden and Eslick are both without rides at this point.

11-17-2011, 01:06 PM	#66
Tom W. Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2005 Oddometer: 291	But surely Eslick would rather race Sportbike than sit out the season. Does that imply he has a ride that just hasn't been announced yet? And any speculation on who the new RMR rider will be? And will Richie get a sponsor to match Geico?

11-17-2011, 05:37 PM	#70
Tom W. Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2005 Oddometer: 291	I don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes, but it seems to me that any team that does nothing but win championships for their sponsor deserves to keep that sponser. Hopefully Danny and Richie will both do well, but I can't help feeling a bad taste in my mouth. And I have nothing but respect for Team Hammer and Cardenas, but it almost seems like 'claim-jumping' to me. Maybe when all the facts are out it will be clearer what happened, but I'm going to have a little trouble, emotionally, getting behind Cardenas until I have a better understanding of what went down.

11-17-2011, 06:15 PM	#71
Motorcyclist Drag a Bag! Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Madison, CT Oddometer: 3,162	The rumor of indiscretions at a GEICO company function is pretty cool, that kid is an old school racer I enjoy watching Eslick a great deal, and I hope he lands a competitive ride.

11-18-2011, 07:04 AM	#75
Tom W. Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2005 Oddometer: 291	Internet rumors (and we all know how much those are worth) are starting to suggest Eslick will be going with EBR. Richie M. mentions that it was known since Mid-Ohio that Danny would be leaving and, coincidentally, Mid-Ohio was the debut of the 1190RS. There were rumors, around that time, that Geoff May would be out at EBR (I'm hoping they can find a way to finance them both, but if it becomes a matter of one or the other, I'd have to think EBR would go with Eslick). Also, Danny has been hinting that he has something lined up that hasn't been finalized. While I'd like to see Aprilia, Ducati, MV Augusta, KTM and BMW all taking advantage of the wealth of talent and lack of rides, the factories seem to still be very tentative. EBR would certainly have an interest in and history with Eslick, so I'm thinking that may be what's going on.