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Old 09-29-2011, 05:34 AM   #16
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I was surprised by the amount of room in the CR-Z, for a small car it's very roomy. That's one of the things I liked about the old CRX too.

With the engine from the Civic Si and no hybrid stuff I could be interested.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:16 PM   #17
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I was surprised by the amount of room in the CR-Z, for a small car it's very roomy. That's one of the things I liked about the old CRX too.

With the engine from the Civic Si and no hybrid stuff I could be interested.
They should make a Type R version without Hybrid... I agree... 240hp...
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:00 PM   #18
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Yeah, the weight thing has killed a lot of the fun little cars we used to have. Especially the hot hatches. I think they are starting to come back some. Focus, Mazda3, etc, but they are really luxurious beasts compared to the CRX, Toyota FX16, Omni GLH (remember that one?), etc...

Still, I like the style, and if they did build something sporty with it, that would be a blast. My 88 Si stickered at $10,800. I wonder what that is in today dollars.

A GTI back then was about $ 10,000. They get to about $ 30,000 now.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:38 PM   #19
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US Customs and the Jap car industry spokes-types have said that radiation will not be a problem on export vehicles. A few weeks later the Russians turned a shipment of vehicles back to Japan saying that the radiation levels were six times higher than they should be. Anybody know what the skinny is?
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:46 PM   #20
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US Customs and the Jap car industry spokes-types have said that radiation will not be a problem on export vehicles. A few weeks later the Russians turned a shipment of vehicles back to Japan saying that the radiation levels were six times higher than they should be. Anybody know what the skinny is?
Lada sales were down?
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:55 PM   #21
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I was surprised by the amount of room in the CR-Z, for a small car it's very roomy. That's one of the things I liked about the old CRX too.

With the engine from the Civic Si and no hybrid stuff I could be interested.
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They should make a Type R version without Hybrid... I agree... 240hp...

The new Mini Coupe...








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But when it comes to styling, the Coupe steps out from the hardtop's shadow. Much like the 2008 concept car of the same name, the Mini Coupe adopts a rakish, low-slung roofline, inspired in part by vintage tuner Minis like the Broadspeed GT. According to product planner Vinnie Keung, this not only is supposed to lend the car a more masculine feel, but also lure in buyers who long for the likes of an Audi TT or a Mercedes-Benz SLK but who may not have the means to acquire one.
To enhance that boy-racer feel, the Coupe's windshield rake is now thirteen degrees lower, while a rounded roof -- painted either black or silver -- breaks away from the two-box form traditionally associated with Minis. A spoiler is integrated into the trailing edge of the roof, and helps direct airflow towards another spoiler, which pops up from the stubby decklid at speeds above 50 mph.


Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...#ixzz1ZT2jJfdR
As with B & C class cars I really like what is happening in these segments. Lot's of interesting affordable quality vehicles now. Personally I prefer the CR-Z.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:02 PM   #22
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The new Mini Coupe...

Holy cow what an ugly car. I guess this is why I really don't get automobiles anymore...
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:27 PM   #23
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I hope this one has a really nice personality.


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Old 09-30-2011, 05:11 PM   #24
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I hope this one has a really nice personality.



Better put a deposit down now, they're only making these in limited numbers.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:50 PM   #25
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Better put a deposit down now, they're only making these in limited numbers.

Good call.
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:51 PM   #26
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Better put a deposit down now, they're only making these in limited numbers.
Limited to the number they can sell.
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:55 PM   #27
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... Omni GLH (remember that one?).
I had one.
Turbo, handled like a go-kart and and had a wet noodle for a shifter.

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Limited to the number they can sell.
23.

I really like the looks of the CR-Z. But, from the reviews I've been reading it seems that it handles more like a standard sedan, not sporty car. And it's reported gas mileage isn't much better than the Fusion Hybrid.

I'm with RocketJohn, give me CR-Z with 200-240 hp with above 30mpg and improved handling.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:33 PM   #29
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I had one.
Turbo, handled like a go-kart and and had a wet noodle for a shifter.

and the block cracked about every 10 minutes or so.

holy shit, i never owned one and i got stranded three times by those steaming bastards.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:53 PM   #30
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I really like the looks of the CR-Z. But, from the reviews I've been reading it seems that it handles more like a standard sedan, not sporty car. And it's reported gas mileage isn't much better than the Fusion Hybrid.

I'm with RocketJohn, give me CR-Z with 200-240 hp with above 30mpg and improved handling.

Don't knock it till you try it. They oversteer out of corners on the throttle. They're fun.
I've also read of a CRZ forum that some drivers get in the low 40;s
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