The Vintage Trials Thread - Page 12

neilking · 01-12-2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewtus

Interesting scoring system. One dab is a total failure for the section? What happens in the event of a crash or stall? Do they get a whuppin' for that?

Seriously though, that looks like a bunch of fun. That scoring system would take some getting used to.....

This is actually pretty fun. We had one about 2 months ago out on some private property. I won the intermediate class(same as ya'lls cubman) on a TY350 and came in 3rd overall. I got beat by Ray Peters and one of the sons of the land owner. I beat Adam by 1 point, he was riding a 2011 Beta. The TY decided to die in one section, costing me 2nd place.

Sting32 · 01-12-2012, 04:46 PM

Gate trials, I was told, and it probably varies.... you try to get points, not save them... so the gates are different point values on difficulty. When you ride a section, if you dab you get zero of maybe 20 possible points for a master... If you do clean through 5point gate, plus the 3 point gate you got 8 points. So as you might now see, 1 or five still means fail, you get 0, instead of what the gates were worth...

Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk

Is that how you guys scored it Neil? I havent talked to mike, but that is how I understood how some have done it, that way there was a reason to risk a dab, to ride a higher gate, for more points, but risk all the points if you dab at all. Kind of a homeRun Derby, but depending on where the ball gets hit, changes the score for the hit.

GarageRat · 01-12-2012, 06:43 PM

You got it Sting! You described it perfectly. Each section is a homerun derby or bust. I have ridden a few traditional trials, but in comparison I thought the Gate trail was more fun, and really more challenging. You could really be creative and push the limits as far as you feel confident.

Sting32 · 01-12-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarageRat

You got it Sting! You described it perfectly. Each section is a homerun derby or bust. I have ridden a few traditional trials, but in comparison I thought the Gate trail was more fun, and really more challenging. You could really be creative and push the limits as far as you feel confident.

I heard they had a lot of fun.

Now, to be nosey, MAYBE this is what they really need to do for a "dirtbike trials" to get those who are turned off to strick competion and not sure they want to do trials? We could handicap, per se, type of bike at least to keep people fairly competing, and keeping it fun? get em hooked and all that...

HMMMMM....

Trials zealot signing off.

PSchrauber · 01-14-2012, 05:19 PM

May be interesting or not for you guys, we have figured out another way to get the problem of getting enough observer for a trials competition solved also this method will reduce the preperations of any trials a lot.

The participants will be split up in groups each groups is riding together and one of the group is the observer for the other ones, when the first is trough the section he will be the observer for the second rider and so on. The group has one card so this makes handling and scoring later easier too.

Got great response for this system, if there occure a problem it will be discussed and solved in the group, ay sorry will be shared, any luck too this keep the community factor high, very recommanded.

You can put the group's together as you want there should at least be three, best is out of one class, mixed groups are also possible if there are at least two participants of one class. The group should not be bigger then 7 persons.

r2wtrials · 01-15-2012, 03:04 PM

How things change in a few weeks!! I have sold my lovely 290 Beta Evo and now have a 90kg collection of bits that will be a 1980 SWM TL320.!!

After my knee injury i never really got right again in the head and was not riding my Beta much. After the ride on my mates SWM i realised how much i had enjoyed the day and just wanted to do it again.. so here we are. Back to the future!! 31 years ago i owned one of these and won club events on it, lets see if history can repeat itself!!

The engine is having a new 4th gear fitted.. the bike has mainly only ever been used on the road so all in good condition considering!

PSchrauber · 01-15-2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r2wtrials

How things change in a few weeks!! I have sold my lovely 290 Beta Evo and now have a 90kg collection of bits that will be a 1980 SWM TL320.!!

After my knee injury i never really got right again in the head and was not riding my Beta much. After the ride on my mates SWM i realised how much i had enjoyed the day and just wanted to do it again.. so here we are. Back to the future!! 31 years ago i owned one of these and won club events on it, lets see if history can repeat itself!!

The engine is having a new 4th gear fitted.. the bike has mainly only ever been used on the road so all in good condition considering!

Very nice, I'am stuck to these rotary valve engines too. I just aquired a SWM TL.NW 320 tooas a daily training machine, the bike stood in north Italy in a small village in the Alpes. Just now the bike is shipped to my home address, (shipping was cheaper then driving down and up again for me if you only count the costs for gas).

By the way the SWM was tested against the Fantic 240 back in these days by the French motorcycle magazine Moto Verde and they where very close up in overall, (OK the Fantic won by one point).

Still very competetive, when I rode my Bultaco back in 1981/82 in youth trials, (riding a 175cc Sherpa), I was regulary outclassed by a guy that had a 125cc SWM. Compared to the Bultaco the SWM was a feather and had much better throttle response. Just for record in 1981 the trials worldcup was won by Gilles Burgat on a SWM TL 320.

Looking forward to any progress of your rebuild.

pcmx47 · 01-15-2012, 09:37 PM

The AHRMA Northwest schedule is posted on the AHRMA Northwest website. A total of 15 trials are scheduled ranging from northern California to Bellingham WA. There are 11 regional vintage motocrosses with all of them having a trials included. There are 2 stand alone trials (willows CA, and a 2 day at Donner Pass). There is a sub region of the northwest region called the Lumberjack series with 7 vintage motocrosses all including trials. The Lumberjack series ranges from Canby CA.in the northeast corner of CA to Bellingham WA in northern WA. Lots of fun riding. Enjoy! Dana

Slipscomb · 01-16-2012, 10:26 PM

Went riding again this weekend and the little Honda TL125 is running great! I have only had it running for a fe weeks now and am learning the intricasies of Trials riding. My friend Joe just got his new (old) Yamaha 250 going after rescuing it from a barn in northeast Oklahoma a few days ago.

Sean

Slipscomb · 01-16-2012, 11:45 PM

Sean

England-Kev · 01-21-2012, 04:03 AM

Lets see them then.

And because I know all the 2 stroke boys get fed up with beemers, I thought I would start with a BMW Trials bike..

Bongolia · 01-21-2012, 05:19 AM

I win

England-Kev · 01-21-2012, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bongolia

I win

Very Nice too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Wt5...uXSww&index=10

Vintage trial action I took last year. The Talmag is on again next week.

slowpoke28787 · 01-21-2012, 06:00 AM

I restored this one. Just like the one I had at 14 in 1975.

RobbieO · 01-21-2012, 06:12 AM

Excuse the mullet......it was the 80's

01-12-2012, 04:46 PM	#167
Sting32 Trails Evangelist Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis, Ks Oddometer: 963	Gate trials, I was told, and it probably varies.... you try to get points, not save them... so the gates are different point values on difficulty. When you ride a section, if you dab you get zero of maybe 20 possible points for a master... If you do clean through 5point gate, plus the 3 point gate you got 8 points. So as you might now see, 1 or five still means fail, you get 0, instead of what the gates were worth... Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk Is that how you guys scored it Neil? I havent talked to mike, but that is how I understood how some have done it, that way there was a reason to risk a dab, to ride a higher gate, for more points, but risk all the points if you dab at all. Kind of a homeRun Derby, but depending on where the ball gets hit, changes the score for the hit. Sting32 screwed with this post 01-12-2012 at 06:33 PM

01-15-2012, 03:04 PM	#171
r2wtrials Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2011 Location: West Country, UK Oddometer: 113	How things change in a few weeks!! I have sold my lovely 290 Beta Evo and now have a 90kg collection of bits that will be a 1980 SWM TL320.!! After my knee injury i never really got right again in the head and was not riding my Beta much. After the ride on my mates SWM i realised how much i had enjoyed the day and just wanted to do it again.. so here we are. Back to the future!! 31 years ago i owned one of these and won club events on it, lets see if history can repeat itself!! The engine is having a new 4th gear fitted.. the bike has mainly only ever been used on the road so all in good condition considering! __________________ r2wtrials.co.uk

01-15-2012, 09:37 PM	#173
pcmx47 n00b Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Toledo, WA. Oddometer: 7	AHRMA NW schedule The AHRMA Northwest schedule is posted on the AHRMA Northwest website. A total of 15 trials are scheduled ranging from northern California to Bellingham WA. There are 11 regional vintage motocrosses with all of them having a trials included. There are 2 stand alone trials (willows CA, and a 2 day at Donner Pass). There is a sub region of the northwest region called the Lumberjack series with 7 vintage motocrosses all including trials. The Lumberjack series ranges from Canby CA.in the northeast corner of CA to Bellingham WA in northern WA. Lots of fun riding. Enjoy! Dana __________________ Keep on dreamin boy cuz when ya stop dreamin it's time to die- Blind Melon

01-21-2012, 04:03 AM	#176
England-Kev Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track! Oddometer: 2,556	Vintage Trials Bikes Lets see them then. And because I know all the 2 stroke boys get fed up with beemers, I thought I would start with a BMW Trials bike.. __________________ http://kevindean.zenfolio.com/ http://motodelcurva.wordpress.com/ http://backstreetthunder.wordpress.com

01-21-2012, 05:19 AM	#177
Bongolia stop acting Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Hong Kong Oddometer: 15,190	I win __________________ A pariah on the farm

01-12-2012, 06:43 PM	#168
GarageRat Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Western NY Oddometer: 148	You got it Sting! You described it perfectly. Each section is a homerun derby or bust. I have ridden a few traditional trials, but in comparison I thought the Gate trail was more fun, and really more challenging. You could really be creative and push the limits as far as you feel confident.

01-14-2012, 05:19 PM	#170
PSchrauber Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Summer: Kemiö, Finland; Winter: North Germany Oddometer: 641	May be interesting or not for you guys, we have figured out another way to get the problem of getting enough observer for a trials competition solved also this method will reduce the preperations of any trials a lot. The participants will be split up in groups each groups is riding together and one of the group is the observer for the other ones, when the first is trough the section he will be the observer for the second rider and so on. The group has one card so this makes handling and scoring later easier too. Got great response for this system, if there occure a problem it will be discussed and solved in the group, ay sorry will be shared, any luck too this keep the community factor high, very recommanded. You can put the group's together as you want there should at least be three, best is out of one class, mixed groups are also possible if there are at least two participants of one class. The group should not be bigger then 7 persons.

01-16-2012, 10:26 PM	#174
Slipscomb n00b Joined: Jan 2012 Oddometer: 3	Went riding again this weekend and the little Honda TL125 is running great! I have only had it running for a fe weeks now and am learning the intricasies of Trials riding. My friend Joe just got his new (old) Yamaha 250 going after rescuing it from a barn in northeast Oklahoma a few days ago. Sean

01-16-2012, 11:45 PM	#175
Slipscomb n00b Joined: Jan 2012 Oddometer: 3	Sean

01-21-2012, 06:00 AM	#179
slowpoke28787 Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Asheville, NC Oddometer: 72	My Ossa MAR I restored this one. Just like the one I had at 14 in 1975. Attached Images

01-21-2012, 06:12 AM	#180
RobbieO Muskokatard Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Dumpmere - Muskoka Oddometer: 3,846	Excuse the mullet......it was the 80's __________________ "Now this is the shit!" Drcool I can no longer wheelie..

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