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Old 10-24-2011, 12:52 PM   #166
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This is single-sided, shaft drive, right?

It will be interesting to see if Triumph manages the bearing/oil-sealing issues better than BMW has done with this design. It has always been widely speculated that the single-sided design puts a tremendous amount of stress on the final drive compared to a conventional double-sided swingarm and this extra stress has been a big contributor to the GS's final drive bearing/oil-sealing issues.

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Old 10-24-2011, 12:53 PM   #167
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Impressive. The key spec I'm waiting on is fuel capacity.

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Supposedly 5.6 gallons / 21 litres, per Kevin Ash
http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/tr...-explorer-news
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:55 PM   #168
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Supposedly 5.6 gallons / 21 litres, per Kevin Ash
http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/tr...-explorer-news
Not bad, but not great. I suspect a 135-hp 1200cc triple will probably suck a little more gas than the S10 and GS twins. And advantage still GSA if long-range is important to you.

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Old 10-24-2011, 12:57 PM   #169
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Supposedly 5.6 gallons / 21 litres, per Kevin Ash
http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/tr...-explorer-news
If you read that article that is a complete guess and he says "at least". I did a little mockup vs the GSA and it looks like a good sized tank. Based on the 950 amps I would say that Triumph is trolling the web listening to its customers and know whats important to us. Bike range is pretty important...

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Old 10-24-2011, 12:59 PM   #170
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If you read that article that is a complete guess and he says "at least". I did a little mockup vs the GSA and it looks like a good sized tank. Based on the 950 amps I would say that Triumph is trolling the web listening to its customers and know whats important to us. Bike range is pretty important...

Very clever
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:01 PM   #171
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If you read that article that is a complete guess and he says "at least". I did a little mockup vs the GSA and it looks like a good sized tank. Based on the 950 amps I would say that Triumph is trolling the web listening to its customers and know whats important to us. Bike range is pretty important...
Completely true. Here's his GS vs. Explorer speculation in full:

"Triumph has not confirmed any important details such as power and torque figures, weight, tank size or fuel range. It’s possible to make some guesses: Triumph is claiming class leading performance, which assuming the Multistrada is not included in the class means a power output of around 130bhp (97kW). Staff at the presentation also suggested the fuel range was better than the R1200GS, which at least means this was considered important at the design stage, so expect a tank size of at least 4.6 gallons (21 litres, 5.6 gallons US).

"There are also no pictures of the shaft system itself. This looks bulky but Triumph appears aware of reliability issues with BMW’s and claims their own is exceptionally strong. But then they would..."
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:06 PM   #172
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I'm looking to buy something of this genre by next spring. Owned 5 BMWs in the past, won't go there again anytime soon. I've had 3 Hinkley Triumphs, presently own a Roadster. That experience will keep me from buying a first year 1200. Which leaves the Yamaha 1200, which has a price point and level of quality control I frankly can't see Triumph beating, not to mention dealer network for a traveling bike. Unless the Triumph is significantly lighter, I can't see me buying it.
Frankly Yamaha build quality / quality control is not a patch on Triumph's. I would put then higher than Honda as well.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:21 PM   #173
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Thanks to a cross-post in st-owners.com: http://www.webbikeworld.com/triumph-...h-motorcycles/
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:32 PM   #174
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If I'm correctly understanding what "not a patch" means, you're saying that Triumph's QC is at least a match for Yamaha and better than Honda's? I respectfully disagree based on my experience. Going back a ways, my '97 Speed Triple was a great bike that had to have the frame replaced because the frames were breaking at the neck. My '05 Rocket had a litany of issues, as did many of them - paint peeling on the rims, cam bolt not tight enough which led to top end failures, output bearings and seals installed incorrectly which lead to failures, bad programs loaded into ECMs, premature wear of cam chain tensioners, gear selector bolts falling out because of incorrect loctite/tightening, ignition switch contacts melting due to too light of headlight wiring,etc. As delivered, my 2010 Roadster had both side cover emblems peeling off, hoses weren't connected to the evap canister, relays not in their mounts,left side cover wasn't mounted correctly, many loose bolts (not all of which I caught before they bailed), the right headlight's ring was forced on incorrectly, the starter relay melted at 1K, etc, etc. Totally just thrown together. The bugs are out of it now apparently and it's a great bike, but, sheesh, there certainly appears to be some slackers on the assembly line.
Oh yeah, and my favorite is where somebody wrote a great big bright green ac on the right side covers. Absolutely will not come completely out of the matt black paint.
Add it all up and I'm inclined to give Triumph a couple years to get the bugs out.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:35 PM   #175
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If you read that article that is a complete guess and he says "at least". I did a little mockup vs the GSA and it looks like a good sized tank. Based on the 950 amps I would say that Triumph is trolling the web listening to its customers and know whats important to us. Bike range is pretty important...

Fook me. Thats great. They are so similar looking when you see them like that.

Would like to see a white version.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:37 PM   #176
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Fook me. Thats great. They are so similar looking when you see them like that.

Would like to see a white version.
Would be nice to see any colour but blue.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:39 PM   #177
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just seen on triumphrat.net that dealers taking deposits tomorrow in UK and available in Blue, Black and Graphite
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:41 PM   #178
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just seen on triumphrat.net that dealers taking deposits tomorrow in UK and available in Blue, Black and Graphite
Put money on one today subject to tank size
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:50 PM   #179
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10'000mile service ?????? 135 bhp how about torque ? And how do you know ? Sorry all questions
BIKE magazine, dropped on the doormat this morning.

They also suggest it may have traction control.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:59 PM   #180
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BIKE magazine, dropped on the doormat this morning.

They also suggest it may have traction control.
It does have TC, but would like to know tank size ? Also like to know that it only needs a service every 10'000 miles.
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