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Old 04-16-2012, 01:16 PM   #2026
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All four of the Yamaha dealers I visited for the S10 offered me a test ride and I took two of them up on it.

No problems with any of the Yamaha dealers!
When I was looking around, no test rides for:

- Suzuki (DL650)
- Honda (VFR800)
- Yamaha (XT1200Z)
- Kawasaki (Versys)

Ducati had a only halfway helpful escorted test ride for the Multi (What? 3 miles highway and 2 miles city isn't enough?).

Of course, it might just be the dealer ...

Triumph and BMW were completely opposite, I test rode:

- R1200GS and F800GS
- R1200GS and R1200GS Adventure
- R1200RT
- K1300GT
- R1200R
- Tiger 1050
- Tiger 800
- Street Triple

Last bikes I bought new: F800GS, R1200GS, Tiger 800. Surprise? No.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:26 PM   #2027
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To them, no amount of internet owner reports will accurately describe how it fits and makes them feel.
Fuss farts These over emotional types probably fret over whether their socks match too. Sorry, but I don't need my ego stroked.

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Question for you. Do you buy shoes without trying them on? If so, do you hike? Get what I'm getting at at now?
Awwww, come on! You can try on a pair of shoes in the store and maybe walk around in them right there but the shoe sales person is not going to let you take off with them for a 1/2 hour. Let me get this right, you try on a new pair of shoes and tell the sales person, yeah, I just need to go for a little walk to make sure these shoes are just perfect for my feet, I need to feel that special connection. I'm just going to go around the block here and make sure they will make me feel special while I'm sitting atr Starbucks enjoying my latte. Yeah right! Listen, you can sit on any bike in any showroom to see how it feels the same way that you can try on any pair of shoes at a shoe store to see how they feel. Your comparisson is bogus.

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Old 04-16-2012, 01:33 PM   #2028
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Fuss farts These over emotional types probably fret over whether their socks match too. Sorry, but I don't need my ego stroked.



Awwww, come on! You can try on a pair of shoes in the store and maybe walk around in them right there but the shoe sales person is not going to let you take off with them for a 1/2 hour. Let me get this right, you try on a new pair of shoes and tell the sales person, yeah, I just need to go for a little walk to make sure these shoes are just perfect for my feet, I need to feel that special connection. I'm just going to go around the block here and make sure they will make me feel special while I'm sitting atr Starbucks enjoying my latte. Yeah right! Listen, you can sit on any bike in any showroom to see how it feels the same way that you can try on any pair of shoes at a shoe store to see how they feel. Your comparisson is bogus.

Princess and the pea.
Ummm... Most shoe store, REI & Dick's for sure allow you to return shoes you've purchased, taken home and worn around the house, with no questions asked. I know because I have done so a few times and test riding them up and down my stairs gives me a pretty darn good idea.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:36 PM   #2029
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ah, it seems like there are different opinions

some read about, look and sit on it and then buy it

other, like myself, want a 3hour ride on it

I don't see a problem, except of course if all have to conform....

not for me thanks
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:36 PM   #2030
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Fuss farts These over emotional types probably fret over whether their socks match too. Sorry, but I don't need my ego stroked.
Hmmm. Could it just be that you are a sloppy, non-caring, I-live-with-whatever-shit I buy kind of guy? No offense please, but keep in mind that people do care whether socks match, whether hair is washed, and whether I like the engine of a 15k motorcycle I might buy. If you don't, be happy. I care for all of these. I don't buy a new car or bike without a test drive / ride.

And trying shoes on is a perfect comparison - I have had shoes on for half an hour in the store while looking at other things. I also try helmets on and leave them on for 15 minutes in the store. I rarely ever buy stuff I later don't like. And yes, I'm picky. But why would that be your problem?
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:42 PM   #2031
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Hmmm. Could it just be that you are a sloppy, non-caring, I-live-with-whatever-shit I buy kind of guy? No offense please, but keep in mind that people do care whether socks match, whether hair is washed, and whether I like the engine of a 15k motorcycle I might buy. If you don't, be happy. I care for all of these. I don't buy a new car or bike without a test drive / ride.

And trying shoes on is a perfect comparison - I have had shoes on for half an hour in the store while looking at other things. I also try helmets on and leave them on for 15 minutes in the store. I rarely ever buy stuff I later don't like. And yes, I'm picky. But why would that be your problem?
many people still believe bikers are a bunch of dumb-asses - in certain instances they have a point
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:35 PM   #2032
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perhaps you could have said his dealer is mistaken rather than calling him "a liar and a fool".

I just don't get it

I like liar or fool better.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:52 PM   #2033
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We need a "My panties are bunching up" forum, NOW!!!
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:00 PM   #2034
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Got an email from Jesse at Jesse Luggage. The Tiger Explorer brackets should be ready in 3 weeks!!!!!
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:42 PM   #2035
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Fuss farts These over emotional types probably fret over whether their socks match too. Sorry, but I don't need my ego stroked.



Awwww, come on! You can try on a pair of shoes in the store and maybe walk around in them right there but the shoe sales person is not going to let you take off with them for a 1/2 hour. Let me get this right, you try on a new pair of shoes and tell the sales person, yeah, I just need to go for a little walk to make sure these shoes are just perfect for my feet, I need to feel that special connection. I'm just going to go around the block here and make sure they will make me feel special while I'm sitting atr Starbucks enjoying my latte. Yeah right! Listen, you can sit on any bike in any showroom to see how it feels the same way that you can try on any pair of shoes at a shoe store to see how they feel. Your comparisson is bogus.

Princess and the pea.
I'm guessing you're still a young buck. When you get a few more years under your belt, you'll realize that it isn't so easy to conform to a bike that doesn't fit well, as the knees, neck, etc., don't flex like they used to. I need to sit on a bike and ride it a bit to see what my body feels like when I am on it. Having an idea of what adjustments can be made is only useful if you have actually felt the dimensions of the bike. I envy you your youth and your don't-give-a-shit attitude, but I don't envy your ignorance; the fact is that others may indeed have legitimate reasons why a test ride may still be important.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:05 PM   #2036
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I'm guessing you're still a young buck. When you get a few more years under your belt, you'll realize that it isn't so easy to conform to a bike that doesn't fit well, as the knees, neck, etc., don't flex like they used to. I need to sit on a bike and ride it a bit to see what my body feels like when I am on it. Having an idea of what adjustments can be made is only useful if you have actually felt the dimensions of the bike. I envy you your youth and your don't-give-a-shit attitude, but I don't envy your ignorance; the fact is that others may indeed have legitimate reasons why a test ride may still be important.
Yeah just 44; thankfully geriatric considerations are not my priority.
I've been riding on the road since 1983 (just 29 years of riding experience) you dipshit.

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:33 PM   #2037
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Yeah just 44; thankfully geriatric considerations are not my priority.
I've been riding on the road since 1983 you dipshit.
And still haven't learned any manners

We all age differently and you are lucky to be healthy enough that your bones don't ache and your joints don't creak; enjoy the time.

I took the MSF course at the weekend and sat on a 250 Rebel for the first few hours riding. Could barely walk after just 3 hours. Swapped it out for a 250 Nighthawk and felt the pains disappear after an hour. Next day got on the Nighthawk and no twinges at all. Imagine how I would have felt if I had bought that Rebel instead of just using the one provided by the class? Oh wait, how silly of me, given your last comments you appear not to consider anyone else but yourself so ignore my last statement.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:43 PM   #2038
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And still haven't learned any manners

We all age differently and you are lucky to be healthy enough that your bones don't ache and your joints don't creak; enjoy the time.

I took the MSF course at the weekend and sat on a 250 Rebel for the first few hours riding. Could barely walk after just 3 hours. Swapped it out for a 250 Nighthawk and felt the pains disappear after an hour. Next day got on the Nighthawk and no twinges at all. Imagine how I would have felt if I had bought that Rebel instead of just using the one provided by the class? Oh wait, how silly of me, given your last comments you appear not to consider anyone else but yourself so ignore my last statement.


Be nice guys. Play nice.

Just as a data point I live a VERY high energy life, but several years ago I was DUI'd because I failed a field sobriety test because I was so stiff from arthritis (hadn't been taking my meds) that the cop was convinced that I was drunk.

Imagine his surprise when the breathylizer came back very low and the prosecuting attorney dropped the case.

Anyway ... the man who comments about ergonomics has a point. I was still competitive with college students who were racing bicycles at 40 but damned ,,, it was hard. The big adventure bikes (I ride a BMW GS) offer plenty of adjustment in most cases.

Here is to hoping that the Triumph does the same 'cause I am planning to get one.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:03 PM   #2039
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Yeah just 44; thankfully geriatric considerations are not my priority.
I've been riding on the road since 1983 (just 29 years of riding experience) you dipshit.
So in Canadian riding time ... what is that about 6 years total? I grew up in L.A. and rode over 300 days a year. But who cares?
Obviously you've nothing to learn here son, why not move on?
I was riding 8 years before you were born (I started at age 10, racing by age 14) ... and you know what? I still have plenty to learn.

Lessons can sometimes present themselves in unexpected ways from unexpected sources.

I learned that the first time I raced Dick Mann ... and lost. 60 year old Mann on a 40 year old GoldStar BSA, 42 year old me on a year old Yamaha motocrosser.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:13 PM   #2040
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So in Canadian riding time ... what is that about 6 years total? I grew up in L.A. and rode over 300 days a year. But who cares?
Obviously you've nothing to learn here son, why not move on?
I was riding 8 years before you were born (I started at age 10, racing by age 14) ... and you know what? I still have plenty to learn.

Lessons can sometimes present themselves in unexpected ways from unexpected sources.

I learned that the first time I raced Dick Mann ... and lost. 60 year old Mann on a 40 year old GoldStar BSA, 42 year old me on a year old Yamaha motocrosser.
Grand National Champion really does mean something extraordinary.
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