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Old 04-21-2012, 03:33 AM   #2071
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She looks great under you Scott. Did you pull the trigger on one yet or still pondering?
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:17 AM   #2072
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Sockmonkey- I find the multi more comfortable immediately, it fits my riding position right out of the box, the Explorer's riding position really feels like that of an 800XC, slight reach forward and a little low. Now remember I'm speaking for me and my personal preferences, like more of a supermotard position. I'm 6 1 and 190lbs, and I prefer to sit more upright with my arms resting on the bars.
Once you get her rolling she feels well balanced, size goes unnoticed. I think you'd feel that weight if you were trying more serious off road applications, but doing gravel and some washouts was enjoyable and I've go no dirt riding background.

Charlie- good to hear from ya', I think you would like it, it really did feel like a larger 800XC, so if liked that bike, you'll love this ride.

Bigjon- I really enjoy the Multistrada, but thinking hard about the Explorer, I'm torn. So, I need a magic lottery ticket to get both, problem solved!

The first impression is one of caution, the throttle is very sensitive, the slightest movement by your wrist the bike mimics instantly, it would take some getting used to. I was going over speedbumps in 4th gear (15mph) and she didn't complain or hesitate at all. I only got her up to 39 mph, inside the park. I would have to take her on the open road for a more thorough exam, that's to decide if the trigger was in need of pulling. The finish is awesome and it seems like a big bang for the buck product. For potential buyers it may come down to comfort and getting used to the throttle (ride by wire).
I did hear that dealers may NOT be getting demo bikes, whatever they get in, they will have to let folks ride it/them and sell it/them with current mileage...stay tuned more on that one...look for these to come in to dealers who sent folks to tech school in the next 2 to 3 weeks.
So, here they come US!
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:23 AM   #2073
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I plan on keeping on my 06'....two Tigers in the garage? Folks might start talking...

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Old 04-21-2012, 06:28 AM   #2074
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What is your height, Scott? I'm trying to judge the massiveness of the Explorer
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:32 AM   #2075
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I'm 6 1 and 190lbs, and I prefer to sit more upright with my arms resting on the bars.The bike is actually fairly narrow once you get passed the gas tank.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:05 AM   #2076
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I'm 6 1 and 190lbs, and I prefer to sit more upright with my arms resting on the bars.The bike is actually fairly narrow once you get passed the gas tank.
Thanks, same as I, in weight/height category... Need to sit on one
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Old 04-21-2012, 03:59 PM   #2077
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Any ideas on what can of discount a dealer might give on a cash purchase for an Explorer? I haven't ever paid cash for a vehicle before so don't have a clue as to what I might expect that means the dealer does okay and so do I.

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Old 04-21-2012, 04:06 PM   #2078
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Any ideas on what can of discount a dealer might give on a cash purchase for an Explorer? I haven't ever paid cash for a vehicle before so don't have a clue as to what I might expect that means the dealer does okay and so do I.

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Cash is no incentive for a dealer, they'd much rather finance. We always pay cash for our vehicles and it's never been any kind of bargaining tool.
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:08 PM   #2079
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Cash is no incentive for a dealer, they'd much rather finance. We always pay cash for our vehicles and it's never been any kind of bargaining tool.
True... I've paid cash for mine... you should have seen the effort the dealer went to , to try and get me to sign up for finance
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:23 PM   #2080
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Yep, not like the old days. Dealers usually do 'indirect financing' with either a captive source (i.e. the manufacturer credit division or its finance source) or a local lender. The dealer will probably make a small profit from the financing then.

The only advantage I see these days is if your able to purchase the new bike w/o trading your current stead. In my experience most dealers try/need to steal your trade-in. And I understand that they need to profit on every sale. If you have the ability to sell it on your own you'll typically do better by a bunch.



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Any ideas on what can of discount a dealer might give on a cash purchase for an Explorer? I haven't ever paid cash for a vehicle before so don't have a clue as to what I might expect that means the dealer does okay and so do I.

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Old 04-21-2012, 04:32 PM   #2081
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Any ideas on what can of discount a dealer might give on a cash purchase for an Explorer? I haven't ever paid cash for a vehicle before so don't have a clue as to what I might expect that means the dealer does okay and so do I.

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Yesterday a local Tri dealer posted an Explorer for sale on San Fran Bay Area Craig's list .... Price? $18,000 and change, plus tax/fees. !!! Now, that add is gone. Maybe an error? dunno. What OTD quotes are folks getting now? I thought MSRP was $15K something?? If it's that high I'd definitely wait them out ... until they sit there as left overs ... and it's Winter and the dealers Flooring fees are killing him.

I'm already seeing some decent discounts on the '11 and '12 T800's. I'm still waiting.
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:42 PM   #2082
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Does the 1200 also have the high pitch whining noise at low rpm, from idle to about 3000 rpm like the 800 has?
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:51 PM   #2083
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Does the 1200 also have the high pitch whining noise at low rpm, from idle to about 3000 rpm like the 800 has?
It's a Triumph Triple, probably count on it. If you don't like the whine you could always buy one of the twins. Neither our Bonneville or Scrambler whined, but my wife says she's having a lot more fun on her Street Triple. And she's NOT whining about having trouble passing now.

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Old 04-21-2012, 06:15 PM   #2084
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Cash is no incentive for a dealer, they'd much rather finance. We always pay cash for our vehicles and it's never been any kind of bargaining tool.
Bugger!

Used to be on stuff when I was younger but I expect finance wasn't the preferred method then.

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Old 04-21-2012, 08:03 PM   #2085
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Yesterday a local Tri dealer posted an Explorer for sale on San Fran Bay Area Craig's list .... Price? $18,000 and change, plus tax/fees. !!! Now, that add is gone. Maybe an error? dunno. What OTD quotes are folks getting now? I thought MSRP was $15K something?? If it's that high I'd definitely wait them out ... until they sit there as left overs ... and it's Winter and the dealers Flooring fees are killing him.

I'm already seeing some decent discounts on the '11 and '12 T800's. I'm still waiting.

From what I've read here, http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/ne...explorer-1200/ & a couple other sites, there are only going to be 6,000 of the 2012 models produced. My guess is that they'll all be gone long before snow flies here in the USA.

As far as pricing is concerned I'd like to believe there are enough Triumph dealers that still believe in honesty & integrity that the few dealers that will try to make a fast "extra" buck or two will get beat out by the dealers that smart buyers like us will continue to do business with. That said, you may not see many discounted prices either, as this sounds like one of the most intriguing bikes to hit the market in years. The U.S. base list price of $15,699 doesn't sound too far out of line if the bike is half as good as the reviews sound...
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