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Old 04-29-2012, 07:58 AM   #2221
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I've always relied on aluminum panniers, I tend to get my bikes on one side or the other, in places normal people don't even think going...

So, how robust are they? Is the siderack removable?

Givi have been at the pannier game for around 30 years I think.... I'm told that the Givi racks will be quick release

They certainly feel well made, although they are basically plastic with an aluminium cover on the lids
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:59 AM   #2222
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Hey rhinoWERX. That is one GREAT looking bike. My black lady should be here in about 2 weeks. Like the poster above mentioned there are no good pics of the black Explorers anywhere. Thanks for the excellent photos.
One quick question for you. Are the handguards on the Explorer the same size as the 800 Tiger? The Tiger has some really puny guards...
We'll all be looking forward to an actual owners review and more pics from you. Ride safe & enjoyy the new lady!
I'm not use about the hand guards but i wouldn't be surprised if they were the same. Planning on going for a longer ride today.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:03 AM   #2223
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On my GS's I've had Jesse bags, Touratech special systems and ordinary ones, genuine 1150 ADV luggage, 1200 ADV bags, Verns, Ard Cases ( both uk only I think)

I've bought a pair of Givi Trekker 33L bags.... the nice thing is that each one could be used as a top case as well... very comparable in price to the OEM offerings from Triumph... As a top case not to big either

I like that 33l case as a top box. Is there a mounting plate available specific for the TE 1200 or does the one for the 800 work?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:07 AM   #2224
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I like that 33l case as a top box. Is there a mounting plate available specific for the TE 1200 or does the one for the 800 work?
The Givi monokey universal mounting plate will work with it....

I've used an older monokey cast alloy plate ( got it for free) took a bit of head scratching but it works once the plastic cover is taken off the original rack.

Feels solid enough. Only thing with it was that there's just one slot either side to mount it.. so I used a bit of angle steel underneath to help spread the load.. It's not using the original 4 bolt holes, which would be ideal... but I worked with what I had


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Old 04-29-2012, 10:00 AM   #2225
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This bike is very interesting and has been added to my short list for consideration.
Sorry if this has been discussed before (did a search and found nothing), but has this bikes final drive unit been used in a previous Triumph model?
I was reading the owners manual and found this:

Final Drive Unit

Other than checking the final drive oil level,
the unit contains no user serviceable parts. If
a fault occurs with the final drive unit, your
Triumph dealer must replace the complete
assembly.
Check the final drive unit for oil leaks in
accordance with the scheduled maintenance
chart.

Final Drive Oil Level Adjustment

1. Filler level plug
To check the oil level in the final drive unit,
remove the filler level plug. Fill with 75W/90
fully synthetic hypoid oil that meets
specification API Service Level GL5, such as
Castrol SAF-XO fully synthetic hypoid oil,
until the level of oil inside the unit is level with
the bottom of the filler. Refit the plug and
tighten to 25 Nm.

The above was copied from the owners manual - Page 100

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Old 04-29-2012, 10:07 AM   #2226
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I really don't think I could get that bike up there with such a sensitive throttle response - once you start getting flung around on the rocks your throttle control gets knocked to shit.

Incidentally, I'm no Triumph hater - I've had a 900 Trident for 15 years and I've just bought a Thunderbird Storm. I was looking for a bike to replace my 1150GS - looks like I need to test an 800XC
I know you are no Triumph hater at all. As for the sensitive throttle, that's what the clutch is for. The throttle on the 800 is a little sensitive too when you first ride it but you get used to it and as I say, couple fingers on the clutch so you can feather it a little when you start getting knocked around and the throttle starts jerking a bit.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:38 AM   #2227
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Had a test ride on one yesterday - fuck me that's quick! It'll get 2 people and a lot of gear a long way in a short space of time.

However, I won't be buying. To me this sort of bike has to be able to make it up the mountain at the Stella Alpina in Northern Italy (see youtube link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eITucSZ7bxI&feature=fvst

It would get to Italy faster and in more comfort than anything I've ever owned, but that fly-by-wire throttle would see it launch itself off the side of the mountain when you reach the switchbacks (see 1:40ish on the video)

Great bike, but not for me.
I've had KTM's and BMW's,,,,,,, there is NO reason at all the Triumph would not do that road with ease. IF retirees can do it on their GS's, you can do it on this bike!

I think I'd be running TKC 80's or an equivalent tire though!
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:56 AM   #2228
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This bike is very interesting and has been added to my short list for consideration.
Sorry if this has been discussed before (did a search and found nothing), but has this bikes final drive unit been used in a previous Triumph model?
I'm sure I've heard that this is the first time a shaft has been used by Triumph on a single side swing arm... If that is indeed the case its new... like the engine... which is not just a bored out 1050
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:05 AM   #2229
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From what I remember reading this is a NEW shaft drive but frankly I've been reading stuff since before I put my deposit down in December so a lot of stuff has passed through my brain (did I mention I put my deposit down in December?)
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:59 AM   #2230
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Had a test ride on one yesterday - fuck me that's quick! It'll get 2 people and a lot of gear a long way in a short space of time.

However, I won't be buying. To me this sort of bike has to be able to make it up the mountain at the Stella Alpina in Northern Italy (see youtube link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eITucSZ7bxI&feature=fvst
It would get to Italy faster and in more comfort than anything I've ever owned, but that fly-by-wire throttle would see it launch itself off the side of the mountain when you reach the switchbacks (see 1:40ish on the video)
Great bike, but not for me.
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I'm really not sure what your point is The throttle, like other things on a new bike, just need a little time to adjust to. I have no doubt a Tigger would make it up that hill with little issue.
Beautifully done Video! Very nice!
Rocky terrain is tricky on a big bike. I've done a bit of this on GS's and on my former V-Strom. I have no doubt a good rider on the Explorer could make it ... with knobbies of course.

I've ridden the switchbacks from Creel, Copper Canyon, a 5000 ft. drop in 30 miles down to Batopilas. Did it 5 times on my Vstrom. Not as rocky but sections of very loose scree rock with steep switchbacks and LONG drop offs if you screw up.

If guys on R12GSADV's can do that road ... so can the Explorer. Maintaining momentum and steady power is key going UP switchbacks. Downhill? Be smooth, pick good lines ... and very good braking technique. If you go too slow, you will tip over. Keep the speed up ... even through the switchbacks.


Not even any knobbies on any of these bikes. No problems.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:14 PM   #2231
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Why yes I do... But then again I don't work at just any dealership. I work for Latus Motors. Team Latus has a long and rich history and has a very good reputation for performance enhancements.
Some real beauties there! Nice to see committed dealerships doing well!

Does your dealership use an assembly service like many dealers do? When I worked a multi line dealership, the owners hired an independent company to assemble and deliver the bikes from the warehouse. Some of these assembly companies did not employ the most skilled or caring mechanics.

Bikes come off the boat in a crate. Wheels off, handbars off and lots more not on the bike. So whomever opens the crate has a bit of a job getting the bike ready to roll onto the showroom.

We used to see quite a few things missed. And it was OUR JOB to re-check the bike after the assembly guys were done before the bike went out the door. We found plenty of things Un-torqued, bolts missing, loose axle bolts, things put on wrong. Some services are better than others.

But the problem is many dealerships leave this task to the sales staff to do (PDI prep before the bike goes out the door) Mechanics were too busy making real money for the shop. As a result ... some problems came up: Like dangling calipers, loose handlebars, or missing hardware on shields.

If we had time ... we would always take the new bike for a short test ride.

So how do you guys handle this?

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Old 04-29-2012, 02:04 PM   #2232
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I have not ridden the new Explorer, yet, so I can't directly respond the to touchy throttle. However, considering the throttle is ride by wire, a simple software update is all thats needed to fix the issue. If the issue is as prevalent as seems to be judging by the numerous comments on this thread make it appear, then Triumph will likely offer a software update to correct it. If not, the various performance tuners that will almost certainly be available soon will likely have settings to correct the issue.

Basically, I wouldn't worry about it if that is what is keeping you from purchasing this bike.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:43 PM   #2233
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i have not ridden the new explorer, yet, so i can't directly respond the to touchy throttle. However, considering the throttle is ride by wire, a simple software update is all thats needed to fix the issue. If the issue is as prevalent as seems to be judging by the numerous comments on this thread make it appear, then triumph will likely offer a software update to correct it. If not, the various performance tuners that will almost certainly be available soon will likely have settings to correct the issue.

Basically, i wouldn't worry about it if that is what is keeping you from purchasing this bike.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:33 PM   #2234
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moggi still waiting my friend ?
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:57 PM   #2235
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moggi still waiting my friend ?
No! Got it today and did 8712 miles on it; serviced it myself without stopping (thank goodness for cruise control) and getting 93 to the gallon. It isn't all it's cracked up to be!

I'm off to bed now to hopefully pick up where I left off
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