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Old 05-07-2012, 10:45 AM   #2401
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Both of these make me happy before I even get my bike. I test rode it and loved it, but fuel range and long term seat comfort are not easy to test on a ten mile test ride.

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Factory seat is good, all-day comfort.



Fuel mileage/range- This is a big concern but maybe not. In my short time the worst has been 41MPG, best 45+MPG, average 43MPG. Granted I haven’t ran it too hard yet, but the 41MPG was some pretty hard corner attacking, lots of high RPM downshifts, high RPM acceleration. Looks that you would be hard pressed to get less then 240 mile range. So very close to non-Adventure GS’s as I remember.




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Old 05-07-2012, 11:21 AM   #2402
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On Thursday 19th April I collected my black explorer, that evening I did about 200km. I took Friday off and took a loooong ride to mostly nowhere to run up the miles on Saturday morning she had her first service then on Saturday afternoon we were on our way to Bloem +-500km from where I stay. We spent the next week and a half riding around the country on the pretext of visiting micro breweries. We spent a lot of time on tarmac and some on dirt, some of the dirt became very rough and technical a lot more involved than we ever thought it would be. We ended up riding off road ie there was no road at all! Truth be told we got lost and didn't want to go back the way we came becuase it was really rough Although the Tiger wasn't designed to do this kind of stuff she handled it all like a pro.

My impression of the bike at the moment having done 5000km is that it is simply awesome. The power and torque of the machine make a ride on it completely effortless, any gear any time she just pulls. Once by mistake I pulled of from a traffic light in 3rd gear she didn't wheelie but didn't complain too much either. I also found that riding on dirt it's like a magic carpet ride the suspension handled the deep holes and ruts without a problem no big bangs and rattles (like the 955) nothing to scare you into throttling back. Yes the throttle is sensitive it needs to be treated with care and caution but you get used to it. Like setting the cruise control (awesome feature on long open roads) I preffered clicking it on with my left hand as the stretch to do it with the right thumb can cause you to pull the throttle a bit which is usually enough to speed up a fair bit. On the tight dirt roads I found that putting her in a gear higher than you'd normally use does the trick, there is still loads of grunt to keep you going even at slower speeds and there are no sudden acceleration surprises. On the tarmac this bike is like a laser pointer accurate and reassuring, I had the opportunity to ride her "in anger" down a nice swoopy fast (+-170kmh) bends not a problem at all, in fact a total pleasure. However if the going gets tighter then watch out she grounds the footpeg sooner than I expected


What I didn't like on the bike are the ergonomics, which as we all know can be quite personal depending on your size weight etc. I want the seat to be a little higher (although putting it on low when doing offroad was helpful), the seat was not as comfortable as my 1050, the bars need to be +-10-15mm higher and closer for sitting more upright and a more comfortable stand. I found (possibly beacues of the bars) that I sit too close to the tank with the result of a fair bit of scuffing despite a tank protector (not the Triumph one). The screen (standard) and I didn't get on I have an Arai TourX and the peak would vibrate in some conditions that would drive me nuts! I was riding the standard bike as my accessories had not yet arrived. Having the hand guards, heated grips, spots and engine guards in some conditions would have been more than welcome. My "dislikes" pale in relation to the likes and they can all be easily (not necessarily cheaply) fixed. My feeling is that they have made a big bike for small guys. Maybe it's to do with the positioning of the bars etc but I sit too close to the tank that has resulted in some scuffing from my jacket. Anyhow this is what it all looked like.







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Old 05-07-2012, 02:57 PM   #2403
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On Thursday 19th April I collected my black explorer, that evening I did about 200km.
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Anyhow this is what it all looked like.
Thanks for the report, but I can't view the pics. It says it is forbidden, so maybe you have some security set for them?

Anyway, glad to hear you're enjoying your big Tigger!

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:14 PM   #2404
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I was pleased with the deal, tell Roger that Jerry (the guy that bought the first one) sent you!

Unless they got one unexpectedly, they are waiting on their next one.

I'm not really in the market for a new bike right now considering that I've had my Tenere less than a year. However, I went by today just to see and touch it. I've never seen an Explorer in person. They didn't have one in stock but they said that the next one is due to arrive in a couple of weeks. So if anyone in the Atlanta area is interested, give 'em a call.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:19 PM   #2405
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I just sat on the launch demo in Albany NY. They got it last Thursday, and the dealership owner road it about 100 miles this weekend, and it is now available for test rides or purchase. I have a 30" inseam, and whatever the seat was set to let me put both feet down, but not quite flat. For me, I think some risers would bring it closer to the upright position I now have on my Legend. The footpeg distance was very comfortable though, so no changes needed there. They also have an 800 XC demo, so the first free Satyrday (that was a misspelling and not a Freudian slip) I get, I'd like to go ride both.

I mentioned that some of you pre-ordered and are still waiting, but the salesman said that Triumph was distributing the bikes to the dealers that had sent their techs for training, so as to assure that they entered the market correctly assembled and properly adjusted. If your dealer took your money, but did not send their techs to Georgia for the training, then they are actually the holdup, and not Triumph themselves. That was my interpretation of the message anyway.

Oh yeah, it's blue if anyone is interested.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:50 PM   #2406
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ssevy where are you from ? I'm in Oneonta. How did the dealer seem I was under the impression that they would sell the bikes but really didn't have much interest in them, as they are primarily a HD dealer.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:53 PM   #2407
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This is awesome to already have some real input from someone with a decent amount of miles in the saddle.

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On Thursday 19th April I collected my black explorer, that evening I did about 200km. I took Friday off and took a loooong ride to mostly nowhere to run up the miles on Saturday morning she had her first service then on Saturday afternoon we were on our way to Bloem +-500km from where I stay. We spent the next week and a half riding around the country on the pretext of visiting micro breweries. We spent a lot of time on tarmac and some on dirt, some of the dirt became very rough and technical a lot more involved than we ever thought it would be. We ended up riding off road ie there was no road at all! Truth be told we got lost and didn't want to go back the way we came becuase it was really rough Although the Tiger wasn't designed to do this kind of stuff she handled it all like a pro.

My impression of the bike at the moment having done 5000km is that it is simply awesome. The power and torque of the machine make a ride on it completely effortless, any gear any time she just pulls. Once by mistake I pulled of from a traffic light in 3rd gear she didn't wheelie but didn't complain too much either. I also found that riding on dirt it's like a magic carpet ride the suspension handled the deep holes and ruts without a problem no big bangs and rattles (like the 955) nothing to scare you into throttling back. Yes the throttle is sensitive it needs to be treated with care and caution but you get used to it. Like setting the cruise control (awesome feature on long open roads) I preffered clicking it on with my left hand as the stretch to do it with the right thumb can cause you to pull the throttle a bit which is usually enough to speed up a fair bit. On the tight dirt roads I found that putting her in a gear higher than you'd normally use does the trick, there is still loads of grunt to keep you going even at slower speeds and there are no sudden acceleration surprises. On the tarmac this bike is like a laser pointer accurate and reassuring, I had the opportunity to ride her "in anger" down a nice swoopy fast (+-170kmh) bends not a problem at all, in fact a total pleasure. However if the going gets tighter then watch out she grounds the footpeg sooner than I expected


What I didn't like on the bike are the ergonomics, which as we all know can be quite personal depending on your size weight etc. I want the seat to be a little higher (although putting it on low when doing offroad was helpful), the seat was not as comfortable as my 1050, the bars need to be +-10-15mm higher and closer for sitting more upright and a more comfortable stand. I found (possibly beacues of the bars) that I sit too close to the tank with the result of a fair bit of scuffing despite a tank protector (not the Triumph one). The screen (standard) and I didn't get on I have an Arai TourX and the peak would vibrate in some conditions that would drive me nuts! I was riding the standard bike as my accessories had not yet arrived. Having the hand guards, heated grips, spots and engine guards in some conditions would have been more than welcome. My "dislikes" pale in relation to the likes and they can all be easily (not necessarily cheaply) fixed. My feeling is that they have made a big bike for small guys. Maybe it's to do with the positioning of the bars etc but I sit too close to the tank that has resulted in some scuffing from my jacket. Anyhow this is what it all looked like.







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Old 05-07-2012, 09:57 PM   #2408
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I am especially happy to hear for once you don't need to be 6'0 plus to ride an adventure bike! I am 5'9 and my current triumph tiger "girlie" favors the tall guys. Yes, I do it but I like to get 2 feet firmly on the ground, but I can ride anything.

2nd I am happy to hear about the power, I do love my 955i's sound and power. I hope the 1200 has the same sweet sound with a nice triumph performance can and race tune. Any feedback on this?
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:29 AM   #2409
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On Thursday 19th April I collected my black explorer, that evening I did about 200km. I took Friday off and took a loooong ride to mostly nowhere to run up the miles on Saturday morning she had her first service then on Saturday afternoon we were on our way to Bloem +-500km from where I stay. We spent the next week and a half riding around the country on the pretext of visiting micro breweries. We spent a lot of time on tarmac and some on dirt, some of the dirt became very rough and technical a lot more involved than we ever thought it would be. We ended up riding off road ie there was no road at all! Truth be told we got lost and didn't want to go back the way we came becuase it was really rough Although the Tiger wasn't designed to do this kind of stuff she handled it all like a pro.







Farside, we were NOT lost, there were 3 GPS units!!!!
But seriously, I was impressed with some of the places that the Big Lump went, and the bike was good as well

(By the way, your pics aren't showing?)
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:03 AM   #2410
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ssevy where are you from ? I'm in Oneonta. How did the dealer seem I was under the impression that they would sell the bikes but really didn't have much interest in them, as they are primarily a HD dealer.
My buddy bought a 2010 Thunderbird from them, and he has been mostly happy, although the service stuff is expensive. I was a little disappointed in their service dept. last summer, as my buddy got his bike inspected there just before an 11-day trip with me, and they did not mention that his rear tire was nearly shot. (We ended up getting it replaced at Kissell's in State College PA) I have a classic triple (99 Legend), and they don't know anything about them, as they became a Triumph dealer only recently. HD is definitely their bread and butter (the HD gee-gaw room is bigger than the entire Triumph display area), but I think they are trying to become established with the newer models. One good thing is that demand for Triumphs in our region seems to be low, and so they have bikes available for purchase and test rides. Probably willing to dicker a bit as well?
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:42 AM   #2411
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It could be a good thing if they dont move a lot, means leftovers at hopefully good prices. I just know sometimes it can be hard to even get a salesman to help you if the big money is made on other bikes. Who knows maybe they will profit largely from Triumph and direct a little more attention that way.

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My buddy bought a 2010 Thunderbird from them, and he has been mostly happy, although the service stuff is expensive. I was a little disappointed in their service dept. last summer, as my buddy got his bike inspected there just before an 11-day trip with me, and they did not mention that his rear tire was nearly shot. (We ended up getting it replaced at Kissell's in State College PA) I have a classic triple (99 Legend), and they don't know anything about them, as they became a Triumph dealer only recently. HD is definitely their bread and butter (the HD gee-gaw room is bigger than the entire Triumph display area), but I think they are trying to become established with the newer models. One good thing is that demand for Triumphs in our region seems to be low, and so they have bikes available for purchase and test rides. Probably willing to dicker a bit as well?
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:00 PM   #2412
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back on the subject of tank bags.. can you guys over the pond get SW Motech stuff?

This is their city tank bag... it has a ring that fits onto the filler.. makes for a quick release. I've measured this one at 16cm before it is expanded... rode down to Hein Gericke today and placed it on the Explorer.. it fits the contours well and is not over big ....

Cortech is now making the the same type of tanks bags....their Dryver series.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:06 PM   #2413
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What's this at my dealers?

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Could it be mine? A test ride will determine that.

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Old 05-08-2012, 04:12 PM   #2414
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:17 PM   #2415
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Just got back from a 180 mile ride - with gas light on and 4 miles left on the ODO countdown When I bought the bike they said they gave me a full tank of gas - who knows - but when I went to fill it up again, all I could fit in it was 4.6 gals. Speaking of filling it up with gas – what’s with the bar that prevents the nozzle from being inserted all the way? I’m sure it’s there for a reason. What ever it is, it makes re-fueling a little challenging. Anybody have additional info?

So I rode out to Malibu, through the mountains, along the coast and home again. Ride consisted of freeway, some heavy traffic conditions, twisties and more than enough stop and go.

FWIW, I guess I should mention that this is my first Triumph, so some of this might be old news but I have to say that I love the gearbox It's silky smooth. Also the power delivery from the engine is spot.

Of course I'm still in the break in period and am trying to take it easy. Nonetheless, the bike did superbly. I think it's been said before but it feels very light. It handled the twisties extremely well. The brakes, while not as good as the 2012 Speed Triple that I'd test rode the weekend before (with its mono block brembos), are however plenty powerful and have no problems, with just a couple of fingers, pulling the big girl to a quick stop from freeway speeds.

I played around with the windscreen settings - I'm 5' 11" and with the shield in the upper most position, I was able to ride comfortably at 70mph with my face shield up. I also put the seat in the taller position and may adjust it yet again by dropping the back of it as I felt I was leaning forward just a tad

Lane splitting was a bit more of a challenge - with the wider handlebars, but creeping along at slow speeds was no problem at all - very smooth.

As for the throttle; it doesn’t feel broken to me, but it is somewhat sensitive. Definitely need to be gentle with it. Having said that though, I feel like it’s something I can get used to. One thing I noticed was that after the ride, my throttle wrist wasn’t complaining – I guess that’s because it doesn’t require a heavy grip and or a lot of twisting. Once the bike has broken in, and I have the opportunity to use the cruise control, it should be even better.

The last thing I have to comment about is the computer; I feel like I need to spend a bit more time playing around with it. There seems to be a lot of info and I’m not sure what all of the readings meant. Perhaps I should read the manual…

On a final note I think this bike will be a keeper. The riding position suits me (I loved my Uly and this bike has similar ergos), it has plenty of horsepower, and it handles great, rides smooth, and looks like a bike that was made for burly folk.

I think the only thing I’m missing at this point is luggage – as long as it gets here for before I head to MotoGP, Laguna Seca, this year, I’ll be happy


After seeing this bike and reading the comments of some of the owners, I am now contemplating a Triumph. I have never owned one but always wanted to try out their triple. My commute has doubled and has me thinking of a sport tourer again or something like this or the Multistrada. So....if a few of you Gents out there could twist my arm in the right direction.......I'd be much obliged. Thx rhino......I see this is your first Triumph as well.
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