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10-03-2012, 05:45 AM
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Joined: Oct 2009
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New Boxer info
The new water cooled boxer info is out. Sounds like a quantum jump and complete redesign.
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10-03-2012, 05:50 AM
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Joined: Oct 2006
Location: County Kildare, Ireland
Oddometer: 505
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10-03-2012, 06:24 AM
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Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Georgia, Vermont (that's one town, not two states)
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But this "completely redesigned" GS is essentially the same bike with a few updates. I don't see it wooing too many buyers besides the ones who've already drunk the BMW Kool-Aid. --mark
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10-03-2012, 06:29 AM
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Homebrew Guru
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Acworth, GA
Oddometer: 1,459
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The two biggest changes are obviously water cooling for one and a wet clutch on a Boxer motor. After that it's lots of incremental improvements or changes; shaft drive and exhaust changed sides, more power, revised electronics, smaller tank supposedly for better ergos, wider tires, different frame, cruise control, etc....
Sounds very interesting. I'm not certain I would want to shell out $20k to be a beta tester though.
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10-03-2012, 06:30 AM
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iExplorer
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Cary, North Carolina
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I looked at new BMW and think its a failure... Especially from ergonomics standpoint - it's just ugly...
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10-03-2012, 07:31 AM
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Reformed Kneedragger
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Oddometer: 4,378
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Aw come on man, live a little, its blatantly obvious that they have fixed it's foibles.  Anybody should be honored to spend 20k on a "perfect" bike that will undoubtedly be UNSTOPPABLE. I wonder how much new server space Baldy will need to hold the multiple gigabytes of new GS problems.
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10-03-2012, 07:35 AM
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Reformed Kneedragger
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
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Oops, got a database error message and double posted.
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10-03-2012, 12:53 PM
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MADE IN BURQUE
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: 505
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10-03-2012, 01:06 PM
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Joined: Mar 2012
Location: So.Central PA
Oddometer: 401
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Humor only works when you quote the right post. I'm giving up and going home.  Quote:
 
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10-03-2012, 08:22 PM
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Smile 4 Miles
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Vancouver
Oddometer: 1,375
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I really like the 1200 Explorer but after having seen the new GS I have to say that Triumph still has ways to go.
Every little detail on the GS looks great and well though through while the Explorer looks economical (not bad) but it's still a hughe difference, at least to me. I'd say the Explorer has the better engine however it's not a Boxer (good and bad) 
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10-03-2012, 08:42 PM
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iExplorer
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Cary, North Carolina
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Explorer is an engineering success, the new LC GS is re-engineering failure...
My opinion... Nova Scotia on Explorer |
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10-03-2012, 08:44 PM
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Homebrew Guru
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Acworth, GA
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10-03-2012, 08:49 PM
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Homebrew Guru
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I am NOT a BMW fan boy but I am curious why you call it a failure. Time will tell how the reliability holds up but the specs look compelling.
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10-03-2012, 09:02 PM
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Joined: May 2009
Location: Sunny California
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The existing GS is an engineering and marketing success par excellence. One could not exist so successfully without the other though. The BMW engineering is so outstanding, that people consistently push the products way beyond the "normal" usage envelope. They overload the bikes, pound the crap out of them off the beaten path, explore the world, take the huge bikes wherever they want to go, and the marketing machine picks this up and makes it an even bigger sales success. How the new BMW will work out? Nobody knows. I can make a prediction - it will hold up great to the abuse the typical BMW rider will put the bike through. And people will love the new GS. BMW is way too experienced to bring something to market, that doesn't work well in owners' hands. The Explorer has to demonstrate over the next few years whether I can hold a candle to that success. People will take this bike and ride it in places where they probably shouldn't. Maybe less so than with the GS, but they will still do it. We will see within the next five years or so how well the Triumph engineering holds up. It might hold up well, it might not. Nobody knows yet. Everything has to be in proper perspective and your "announcement" above is without any useful background, unfounded, uninformed, and in my opinion pure BS.
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10-04-2012, 01:52 AM
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iExplorer
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Cary, North Carolina
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Wow, a single opinion touched some nerves here.
What I'm saying is that BMW with 30-year GS history came up with something you need to keep staring at to start liking it. I don't care how much of a great performer it is I don't use 100% their capacities. I had to see all new Tiger Explorer once to like it and 5 min to test ride it to fall in love... It's like with women... ...but sometimes the ugly end up better partners in life though... Nova Scotia on Explorer |
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