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Old 11-03-2011, 12:37 PM   #361
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oh yeah. that guy setup on the S10 too. i guess BMW has the enduro boxer bike and KTM has the ADV so there are known 21" that work and are built strong. be interesting to see the final bike. hopefully it is shown at EICMA too as Justin will get pics of it.




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They seem to be fine with 250 odd Kilo's Plus a 6 1/2 foot giant..





So some of them can take it.

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Old 11-03-2011, 03:54 PM   #362
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:34 PM   #363
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They seem to be fine with 250 odd Kilo's Plus a 6 1/2 foot giant..





So some of them can take it.
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Damn, but that's a good PhotoShop job! Excellent work!
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:08 PM   #364
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Damn, but that's a good PhotoShop job! Excellent work!
If you don't want to believe that YAMAHA racing stuck some stiff suspension and new wheels on the XTZ then that's up to you.

If you don't want to believe that is Francesco Catanese riding the thing then go ahead. Don't.

Others may take home the message that there are 21 inch wheels out there that will take a 250Kg bike plus rider and drop from a reasonable height and survive time and time again so it would be quite possible on the big Tiger.

That's all I was pointing out.

Here is a video where I photochoped all 3600 odd frames just for you.

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Old 11-03-2011, 07:54 PM   #365
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GrahamD, I dont think Precis was doubting that awesome things can be done on with an S10 with a 21", or that you couldn't do it. But the pics are very good Photoshops. You can really tell if you look at the leading edge of the bike and the fin detail on the drive shaft housing at the rear hub in the second photo. Its just too sharp in comparison with the rest of the photo. That and the lighting is too perfect on the bike. In the first pic I think you should be able to see the bikes shadow in the shot.

I'm sure that Yamaha did the standard thing of doing the ride and then going back to the studio and doing some static shots so that it looked perfect. No big deal its done all the time.

As for the T1200XP... NO 21" FRONTS! Cause the thing will suffer from BMW legitis... I wont be able to reach the ground...
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:49 PM   #366
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GrahamD, I dont think Precis was doubting that awesome things can be done on with an S10 with a 21", or that you couldn't do it. But the pics are very good Photoshops.


They were taken at the same circuit while the bike was being videod using fill flash, on an SLR.
That's just the fact Jack.

And it was a comment about the often bagged out S10 being a heavy pig but as you could see, if you just went with the facts, a 21 Inch wheel will be able to take an S10, KTM, HP2 or whatever.

There are no problems with the Tiger using a 21 inch spoked wheel if they wanted.
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:10 AM   #367
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If you don't want to believe that YAMAHA racing stuck some stiff suspension and new wheels on the XTZ then that's up to you.


The ABS that is being claimed as so good in the dirt was removed by Yamaha on this bike.
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:12 AM   #368
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The ABS that is being claimed as so good in the dirt was removed by Yamaha on this bike.
you are a genius Rick, you probably even noticed the entire stock front wheel and braking system was modified
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:07 PM   #369
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If you don't want to believe that YAMAHA racing stuck some stiff suspension and new wheels on the XTZ then that's up to you.

If you don't want to believe that is Francesco Catanese riding the thing then go ahead. Don't.

Others may take home the message that there are 21 inch wheels out there that will take a 250Kg bike plus rider and drop from a reasonable height and survive time and time again so it would be quite possible on the big Tiger.

That's all I was pointing out.

Here is a video where I photochoped all 3600 odd frames just for you.

Was there something special in that video that we were supposed to see? A few little jumps, nervous cornering and a lap around a farmyard raising dust. I hope Yamaha are not trying to target the motocross mob.
Nothing will beat the exposure that BMW got from LWR.
If Yamaha want to give me one for my trip to Panama in 3 weeks, I'm willing to try one and put it through the paces.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:20 PM   #370
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I'm confused..... isn't this suppose to be a Triumph 1220 Explorer thread???


Take the S10 talk to another thread where it belongs...... P L E A S E!

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Old 11-04-2011, 06:30 PM   #371
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Was there something special in that video that we were supposed to see? A few little jumps, nervous cornering and a lap around a farmyard raising dust.
It's a 250Kg bike with a 21 Inch front wheel. The wheel survives quite happily, so therefore would probably have no problems with the Triumph as Eakins thought it may be a bit heavy for a 21 Inch wheel.

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wow. 21". they must read those ADV wish list threads.
figured a 19" spoked tubeless.
how will the skinnier 21" handle all that weight?
most 21" tires are designed for dirtbikes.
i know the KTM adv does it, but this tiger should weigh even more.
So since the S10 is constantly being bagged out as a heavy road only Tourer, I assumed that it would make the point around here that a 21 Inch wheel would cope, with a big pig like the Triumph 1200 as well, since it was mentioned that they were looking at doing so.

That's it.

He was happy with that....

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oh yeah. that guy setup on the S10 too. i guess BMW has the enduro boxer bike and KTM has the ADV so there are known 21" that work and are built strong. be interesting to see the final bike. hopefully it is shown at EICMA too as Justin will get pics of it.
and it should have been the end of it, really....
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:42 AM   #372
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Just had this info from my local dealer in UK

"Seat Height Appears to be 837 mm (In the lowest seat position), this makes it lower than a Tiger 800 XC (845 mm) and the same as a Tiger 1050. There will also be low seat options available, and I would have though aftermarket lowering options as per the 800/1050.
Launch Special Edition A limited edition will be available from launch, this will include a host of extras as standard (exact spec TBC) and finished in Sapphire Blue Possibly 11,499 otr
Colours Phantom Black, Graphite and Sapphire Blue
ABS, TCS and Traction Control confirmed as all standard
10,000 mile service interval / 12 month this makes them 66% more miles than ANY of the competitors.
137 PS Engine (135 bhp)
Availability appears to be March/April delivery quantities unknown as Triumph already have a fair few orders but I suspect they will be building a lot of these in preparation.
Deposit required - 500-00"
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:42 AM   #373
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Just had this info from my local dealer in UK

"Seat Height Appears to be 837 mm (In the lowest seat position), this makes it lower than a Tiger 800 XC (845 mm) and the same as a Tiger 1050. There will also be low seat options available, and I would have though aftermarket lowering options as per the 800/1050.
Launch Special Edition A limited edition will be available from launch, this will include a host of extras as standard (exact spec TBC) and finished in Sapphire Blue Possibly 11,499 otr
Colours Phantom Black, Graphite and Sapphire Blue
ABS, TCS and Traction Control confirmed as all standard
10,000 mile service interval / 12 month this makes them 66% more miles than ANY of the competitors.
137 PS Engine (135 bhp)
Availability appears to be March/April delivery quantities unknown as Triumph already have a fair few orders but I suspect they will be building a lot of these in preparation.
Deposit required - 500-00"
Fuel capacity???
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:37 AM   #374
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10,000 mile service interval / 12 month this makes them 66% more miles than ANY of the competitors.
There will be a Yamaha Super Tenere owner along soon who will suggest that is not accurate.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #375
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There will be a Yamaha Super Tenere owner along soon who will suggest that is not accurate.
And Multistrada owners who have 7500 mile service intervals
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