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Old 07-15-2013, 07:25 AM   #4141
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Who has a SW motech rack and trax panniers that can help out? This is the combo i want, but I'm worried with my shad top case i won't be able to open the side cases.

Could someone take some measurements of how wide they are/ measurements from the frame or somewhere on the bike?

Pics with a tape measure would be incredible.

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:27 PM   #4142
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Could one of you Explorer owners do me a favor and take a photo of the handlebars from straight above? Like the one below (which is a Tiger 800 Road Version).

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:34 PM   #4143
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That work?
Thanks, yes, it works. Better photo than the ones I had found.

What I'm looking into the angle of sweep back the various Triumph handlebars have as I think some of my ergonomic issues with the Tiger are due to the handlebars being too straight.

I have a set of Explorer bars on order and will install them as soon as I have them in my hands. Hopefully that will solve my shoulder issues, that make me want to not ride the bike at all at the moment.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:39 PM   #4144
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Thanks, yes, it works. Better photo than the ones I had found.

What I'm looking into the angle of sweep back the various Triumph handlebars have as I think some of my ergonomic issues with the Tiger are due to the handlebars being too straight.

I have a set of Explorer bars on order and will install them as soon as I have them in my hands. Hopefully that will solve my shoulder issues, that make me want to not ride the bike at all at the moment.
No pics but, I did the Explorer bar swap on my Tiger when I had it. The pull back on the TEX bars is about 1 1/2" more at the ends, really took the strain off my wrists.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:06 PM   #4145
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The pull back on the TEX bars is about 1 1/2" more at the ends, really took the strain off my wrists.
It's the shoulders for me, not the wrists. I have no issues with hands or wrists or elbows but I still think it's coming from the too straight bars that get me into a bad posture.

And given that I'm sitting at a desk most of the day and torturing my body with office work anyways, that might just be enough to make it really bad. If I can't solve this, I'm not going to keep the Tiger and the Explorer is not an option for me.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:22 AM   #4146
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It's the shoulders for me, not the wrists. I have no issues with hands or wrists or elbows but I still think it's coming from the too straight bars that get me into a bad posture.

And given that I'm sitting at a desk most of the day and torturing my body with office work anyways, that might just be enough to make it really bad. If I can't solve this, I'm not going to keep the Tiger and the Explorer is not an option for me.
What about ROX Risers? That seems to solve the problem for most TEX owners. It did for me.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:12 AM   #4147
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What about ROX Risers? That seems to solve the problem for most TEX owners. It did for me.
I tried all positions with the stock bars. No luck. Original risers, XC risers, Rox. Nothing worked.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:54 AM   #4148
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I tried all positions with the stock bars. No luck. Original risers, XC risers, Rox. Nothing worked.
Similarly I have tried risers and different positions on my TEX. Its not all the bike as I have a slight shoulder problem that I have treatment for but I cant shake off the burning that eventually sets in on my shoulder.
It may push me to another bike which I dont really want to do.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:20 AM   #4149
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Same here. I'm overall fairly happy with the Tiger 800, it's set up right for me and I a ton of accessories on including full aftermarket suspension - I'd take a big hit.

But if I can't ride the bike for more than one or two hours without pain, I either stop riding (not going to happen) or get a different bike. Had none of these issues on my GSs or the V-Strom, or my wife's R1200R. So, something has to happen soon.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:36 AM   #4150
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Might consider your seating position. If your too high it could be causing you to lean forward loading your shoulders
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #4151
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Might consider your seating position. If your too high it could be causing you to lean forward loading your shoulders
Believe me: I have measured and tried pretty much everything related to this and there are two major things remaining:

1) The handlebars are just too straight. I actually believe that a lot of people that put risers on solve only part of their problem and might not notice because a) it takes a long time to develop issues and b) they don't have a pre-condition with tight shoulder muscles for years.

2) The foot pegs are too far forward which gets the hip into a weird angle that translates all the way up into the shoulder and arm position.

I have shot lots of photos, measured pretty much everything that can be measured on the bike with regards to ergonomics, have sat on the bike with a physiotherapist correcting and evaluation my posture, trying out a lot of things and these two bits are the remaining things I know about. It is likely a combination of all this plus my own existing problems.

Btw: The comment from the physiotherapist about the stock set up was: "What a shitty layout, how is that working for anyone long term?" - But of course, that needs to be taken with a grain of salt, too. It's just another opinion. Maybe a more qualified one than my own though.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:34 PM   #4152
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Who near upstate new york has had their head done, I have called four dealers none of which know or want to admit they know my bike should be getting a new head, I wanna get the work done so whos doing them ?
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:55 PM   #4153
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Who near upstate new york has had their head done, I have called four dealers none of which know or want to admit they know my bike should be getting a new head, I wanna get the work done so whos doing them ?

The dealers don't want to do the job because Triumph has not allotted enough time. Apparently Big T feels they are supplying a very expensive piece of hardware, and the dealers should share in the pain.

But tough tittie the selling dealer needs to step up and get it done.

My dealer was not happy but he stressed I should not feel guilty about a problem between him and Triumph.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:17 PM   #4154
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Thumb Madstad Screen

I got my Madstad screen installed after it showed up yesterday. I'm impressed with the quality Mark puts into his products. The 22" model that I ordered is normally 19" wide and I had them make it 20" wide. It works in the highest position for me although I think a 24" tall screen with the holes for the shield in the same position as the 22" version may have been better. Overall I would give it an 8 out of 10 which is twice as good as the Triumph Touring screen was. I ordered it in the medium gray which is still light enough to see through @ night even though @ 6'4" my line of sight is about 3" over the top of the shield.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:18 PM   #4155
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Thumb Madstad Screen

I got my Madstad screen installed after it showed up yesterday. I'm impressed with the quality Mark puts into his products. The 22" model that I ordered is normally 19" wide and I had them make it 20" wide. It works in the highest position for me although I think a 24" tall screen with the holes for the shield in the same position as the 22" version may have been better. Overall I would give it an 8 out of 10 which is twice as good as the Triumph Touring screen was. I ordered it in the medium gray which is still light enough to see through @ night even though @ 6'4" my line of sight is about 3" over the top of the shield.

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