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Old 12-03-2011, 07:12 AM   #781
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Totally cool! Glad you like your bike! i've not ridden it, but we don't see that many on the roads here. I hope you don't ever ride the Diavel. (Ducati Devil)
I got a test ride last week. Wow! That is a pretty cool bike too. If you're a power junky ... then don't go near that Ducati .. it will cost you!!

LOL... I was at my Ducati dealer when they "unveiled" the Diavel (even had, um.... "exotic dancers" hanging around it to make it an event ). Something about it really got the short and curlies tingling (no, not crabs or the strippers!), but that sticker price... WOW! Way too much for a second bike!

Now, I've got my eyes on a 2011 KTM 990 SMR!
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:06 AM   #782
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And from what I understand Triumphs are a bit more reliable than their European contemporaries.
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Back to the chase on the 1200 Tiger, the GS's are actually excellent road bikes and the addition of a cruise control, potentially better reliability, and so forth holds great appeal.
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As someone who started street riding back in the 1960s, these statements really gave me pause. My how things have changed.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:42 AM   #783
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So the stock bike comes with rails for luggage. Nice thing about this is its a few less pounds when mounting luggage. Only concern is that only the stock luggage will fit. Seems folks have some complaints about other Triumph luggage. Anyone know of another bike that has a similar system? Any aftermarket luggage announced for the X12?
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:51 AM   #784
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So the stock bike comes with rails for luggage. Nice thing about this is its a few less pounds when mounting luggage. Only concern is that only the stock luggage will fit. Seems folks have some complaints about other Triumph luggage. Anyone know of another bike that has a similar system? Any aftermarket luggage announced for the X12?
I'm quite sure Triumph have got the memo on the problems with the luggage snapping off the T800 Tigers. At least two MC mags brought his up ... even had video of it breaking off on a 15 mph low side on a fire road.

Obviously needs a total redesign. I'm sure the 1200 will have a better system.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:37 PM   #785
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As someone who started street riding back in the 1960s, these statements really gave me pause. My how things have changed.
My statement was made purely from internet fodder. My primary Triumph research has been on the 1050 - which I was almost ready to pull the trigger on - until the Explorer was announced. I had ruled out the GS due to price vs. reliability issues. Same with the Multi 1200.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:51 PM   #786
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Anybody know what fuel octane the new Explorer is gonna require?
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:15 PM   #787
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Anybody know what fuel octane the new Explorer is gonna require?
If it'll do what it looks like it will, I'll gladly pay to pump 93 into the thing without a second thought.

To answer your question, though - no, haven't heard yet.
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:19 PM   #788
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If it'll do what it looks like it will, I'll gladly pay to pump 93 into the thing without a second thought.

To answer your question, though - no, haven't heard yet.
What 800 and XC models consume?
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:37 PM   #789
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What 800 and XC models consume?
Apparently the 800's manual says 87....

http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-800-...ne-rating.html
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:14 PM   #790
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I never had Triumphs and would like to know what known issues are expected with any motorcycles produced by brand Triumph? Something, like, "all Triumph motorcycles have faulty ignition lock", or "all Triumph bikes have weak tubular frame"...
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:41 PM   #791
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I never had Triumphs and would like to know what known issues are expected with any motorcycles produced by brand Triumph? Something, like, "all Triumph motorcycles have faulty ignition lock", or "all Triumph bikes have weak tubular frame"...
I think they are just as much like most of the Jap bikes these days.
Pretty much just do what they do and weep a bit of oil occasionally on the first run models.

But that is a Triumph tradition. They just occasionally weep now, not leak.
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I'm sorry to be a party pooper, but no matter how well the Explorer may cook and clean, I just can't get over the look. From the engine forward, it looks very gaudy and juvenile to me. They couldn't even let the front fender alone. The GS may be ugly, but at least, for the most part, the form is perceived to follow function. I ride a DL1000, and though it's no beauty, it looks better to me now.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:51 PM   #793
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I never had Triumphs and would like to know what known issues are expected with any motorcycles produced by brand Triumph? Something, like, "all Triumph motorcycles have faulty ignition lock", or "all Triumph bikes have weak tubular frame"...
ive been polling every triumph rider i meet about the brand and reliabilty. Been doing this for years and i would say all owners i talked to loved their bikes and had no real problems.
I decided to get off the fence and try one myself a few months ago.
So far the bike i chose ( 800XC ) is dead solid perfect.Maybe a even better than i was expecting.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:53 PM   #794
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Anybody know what fuel octane the new Explorer is gonna require?
As a guess I'd say 87 Octane. If the bike is really intended to compete with the GS1200 as a long range adventure touring rig ... doing international travel, then it's got to run on very low octane fuel. BMW and KTM have a switch on some bikes to change timing to allow low octane fuel. Triumph should do the same.
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:02 PM   #795
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I'm sorry to be a party pooper, but no matter how well the Explorer may cook and clean, I just can't get over the look. From the engine forward, it looks very gaudy and juvenile to me. They couldn't even let the front fender alone. The GS may be ugly, but at least, for the most part, the form is perceived to follow function. I ride a DL1000, and though it's no beauty, it looks better to me now.
A new look is always a bit of a shock. Do your remember when the original Oil head/Telelever/Paralever GS's first came out years ago? Jesus, what an up roar ... and mostly from loyal BMW guys. Very few really liked it. Now, 15 years later everyone loves it. I guess we got used to it?

The Vstrom has been unfairly rejected simply because riders thought it was Fugly. This especially true in the British moto press. Many would not even test ride the Vstrom. Finally after a few V-Strom Alpenfurher victories they HAD to accept it as a GREAT BIKE. (Wee Strom). Dismissing a bike on looks alone is very unprofessional. Shame on those nasty brit journos.

If you don't like the look of the new Triumph ... I suggest you not buy it.
And for sure ... don't test ride it. It would be torture and your Vstrom would feel like a piece of crap after ... It's that simple. Stick with your Vstrom. I liked mine OK (warts and all) ... but really like the T800XC and this new 1200 is not bad.

When I got up close to it, it looked MUCH better to me. Climbed on board ... even better. Not as big as I imagined. Quite manageable, feels light.
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