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Old 12-09-2011, 02:08 PM   #931
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Maybe Triumph will come out with a Adventure Explorer at a later date with a larger fuel tank, spoked wheels, skid plates, and a taller suspension. Now that would be very nice ! ! !
And maybe call it the Explorer XC???

Come on Triumph, you know ya wanna do it....

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Old 12-09-2011, 02:11 PM   #932
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Oh for crying out lout, can you please stop using the word sport in asocoation with these kind of bikes. They are great, they are comfortable, they are also powerfull but they are not sporty. Sport-touring applys to bikes like honda vfr800, cbr600f, bmw k1300s, Triumph ST and such.

This is sport-touring:

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Don't get your ponytail in a twist (I presume that is you on the back of the bike) - I said "it leans more toward sport-touring". That's different to saying it's a sport-tourer, or a SPORT-tourer, or a sport-TOURER.

Splitting hairs I know. No need to tell you about that though - you must have terrible trouble with split-ends in your ponytail

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Old 12-09-2011, 02:11 PM   #933
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And maybe call it the Explorer XC???

Come on Triumph, you know ya wanna do it....

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My money is they will if the Explorer sells well and enough people complain about its ADV shortcomings...
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:14 PM   #934
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A little surprising, given that the 800 was released in both versions at the same time.
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:20 PM   #935
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My money is they will if the Explorer sells well and enough people complain about its ADV shortcomings...
You're probably right. But with HP numbers approaching those of the Multistrada 1200 coming from a sweet-running triple, I think Triumph would have to step on their dicks mightily to keep these beasties from selling well. Of course they could always price themselves out of the market, but then that would be one of those phallus-stomping moves I alluded to above.

So....BRING ON THE EXPLORER XC!!

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Old 12-09-2011, 02:26 PM   #936
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Maybe Triumph will come out with a Adventure Explorer at a later date with a larger fuel tank, spoked wheels, skid plates, and a taller suspension. Now that would be very nice ! ! !
Several in the Moto Press have predicted an XC verison of the Explorer ... this both in US and UK press announcements I've read.
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:59 PM   #937
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Several in the Moto Press have predicted an XC verison of the Explorer ... this both in US and UK press announcements I've read.
Then I'm ankshusly awaiting for that bike to hit the market. If they build it, I will buy it ! ! ! That is if it has the bigger fuel tank, skid plates, and long suspension that we all want in an Adventure bike. I currently ride a 04 R1150 GS Adventure so apparently I'm not worried about weight. And yes I do ride it off road...... a lot ! ! !
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:38 PM   #938
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My money is they will if the Explorer sells well and enough people complain about its ADV shortcomings...
From what I have seen, I think it looks about right for Europe. It depends on whether they think it worth it for the rest of the world where really crap roads are not rare.

Anyway, They have the 800's which is enough bike to do most things you want in the "adventure" class, as long as you don't try and chase KTM's in the dirt.
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:22 PM   #939
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From what I have seen, I think it looks about right for Europe. It depends on whether they think it worth it for the rest of the world where really crap roads are not rare.

Anyway, They have the 800's which is enough bike to do most things you want in the "adventure" class, as long as you don't try and chase KTM's in the dirt.
It's not for me, I'm guessing I'll be perfectly happy with the base Explorer. My off-road excursions will be limited to the occasional dirt road that catches my eye. It will be a touring/everyday bike for me 95%+ of the time.

I'm cool with 180-200 mile range; I'm ready to walk around and stretch the legs a bit by then anyway, so more fuel capacity doesn't really concern me. I'll be happy to, however, moan and bitch about upgrading to a potentially available XC version if it helps my fellow inmates get the bike they really want.
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Old 12-09-2011, 08:43 PM   #940
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I'm cool with 180-200 mile range; I'm ready to walk around and stretch the legs a bit by then anyway, so more fuel capacity doesn't really concern me. I'll be happy to, however, moan and bitch about upgrading to a potentially available XC version if it helps my fellow inmates get the bike they really want.
I'm with you on range. I can't sit for more than about 200 miles without having to pee and a good stretch. I'm no Iron Butt guy ... and don't fancy an "Easy-Leaker" Pee tube running down my leg just to join that gang.

I take medications that make pee stops more frequent anyway.
And anybody that's riding 3 or 4 hours without drinking is a fool looking for serious Kidney problems down the road.

I nearly always have my 3 liter Camel Back on and drink ALL DAY ... Summer and Winter. Good hydration is key to fighting off fatigue ... and keeping kidneys healthy. The youngsters here can ignore this old man's rant ... until your old, and by that time it's too late for you!

Riding 350 miles straight to me is boring and not all that healthy ... or safe. Blood flow issues can come up and concentration suffers. I stop usually between 180 to 200 miles for bit of stretching, breathing ... a light snack and rest. And of course fuel. Always good to go after a 10 minute stop.
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:20 PM   #941
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I understand all the stop revive survive stuff, but when you stop and revive and there is no fuel, then that might allow you to concentrate better on the declining fuel level and that's all.

Sometimes it not a convenience thing, except for the fact you can carry all your fuel in 1 tank.

There are very large areas where I live where fuel stops have been closed as the ever decreasing rural population levels have led to many closures of smaller service centers. Part of the "benefits" of ever increasing productivity from the rural sectors.
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Old 12-10-2011, 02:25 AM   #942
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Some of you guys really are missing the point about fuel capacity.

As said above, that's fine if you want to get off stretch your legs and empty your bag after 150 miles, but there has to be a fuel stop to do it.

Some of the places we get to there aren't any fuel stops. The whole ethos of a "Big Trailie" is a large capacity tank so you can travel far and distant places without worrying about fuel.

Are some of you guys on here just pretending to be ADV riders ??
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:26 AM   #943
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Some of you guys really are missing the point about fuel capacity.

As said above, that's fine if you want to get off stretch your legs and empty your bag after 150 miles, but there has to be a fuel stop to do it.

Some of the places we get to there aren't any fuel stops. The whole ethos of a "Big Trailie" is a large capacity tank so you can travel far and distant places without worrying about fuel.

Are some of you guys on here just pretending to be ADV riders ??
I'll admit I am pretending to be an ADV rider in some sense - and I don't mean that to be snarky - it's just a fact - I ride mostly on the road and don't have the time to RTW right now anyway.

It makes sense to me, though, that if I'm going to ride to an area that would require more fuel that the tank will handle to carry it in a portable canister system. This way, in my everyday riding I'm not lugging around the extra weight of a larger tank and the extra fuel when it's not required. No?
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:49 AM   #944
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Some of you guys really are missing the point about fuel capacity.

As said above, that's fine if you want to get off stretch your legs and empty your bag after 150 miles, but there has to be a fuel stop to do it.
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Just because I don't need fuel doesn't mean I won't stop. Less range forces you to stop when you don't want or need to. If I'm in "get there" mode on the highway I'll stop at rest stops to empty and stretch. It's fast, easy and convenient, you can literally be in and out in minutes as apposed to stopping at a crowded C-store. Then when I do need fuel I can be picky about where I stop and have the choice of not even getting off the bike.

BTW I agree with staying hydrated, I usually were a CamelBak.
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:00 AM   #945
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Some of you guys really are missing the point about fuel capacity.

As said above, that's fine if you want to get off stretch your legs and empty your bag after 150 miles, but there has to be a fuel stop to do it.

Some of the places we get to there aren't any fuel stops. The whole ethos of a "Big Trailie" is a large capacity tank so you can travel far and distant places without worrying about fuel.

Are some of you guys on here just pretending to be ADV riders ??
In years gone by, you may have had a point. These days, with all the options available to us to carry extra fuel, I don't think it's valid any more.
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