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Old 03-17-2012, 09:54 AM   #331
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use Google to see how the V1k is fairing against the ST10...
http://www.moto-station.com/article1...es-trails.html
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:59 PM   #332
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Ordered one. It will be awhile before we have riding weather here, but looking forward to trying it out.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:16 AM   #333
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Versys 1000 vs XT1200C:
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:20 PM   #334
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Wow! That is some bizarre read....
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:31 AM   #335
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WOW somebody smoked way too much weed then decided to write an Internet article.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:32 AM   #336
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Click some of the links..
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:14 AM   #337
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I watched the earlier linked video clip yesterday.. Streamed it to my BIG TV at home from an iPad (via Apple TV-if you don't have Apple TV get it.. can stream from any apple device to yer TV -well worth $100) with the killer surround system... Cranked it up and watched that sucker FLY.

WOW. That BIKE has a MOTOR..

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Old 04-04-2012, 10:22 AM   #338
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I watched the earlier linked video clip yesterday.. Streamed it to my BIG TV at home from an iPad (via Apple TV-if you don't have Apple TV get it.. can stream from any apple device to yer TV -well worth $100) with the killer surround system... Cranked it up and watched that sucker FLY.

WOW. That BIKE has a MOTOR..

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top speed 144.14mph
0-60mph, 3.45 seconds
quarter mile, 11.65 seconds
Braking from 70mph to 0mph, 3.64 seconds
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:04 PM   #339
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I did a 200 mile test ride on one this weekend and it's a decent bike, not the best built thing in the world and truth be told a little dul. As a tool though it did evertything well, engine and box are as smooth as silk. Brakes are good but it weaves a bit at speed forks and set up felt a bit wrong like arse down and nose up.

I went on motorways for 30 miles, a roads and from one side of London to the other.
Initially I thought it would be a motorway cruiser and a liability in traffic, I was wrong.
On the motorway it was a bit weavey as I mentioned, but around town it was a hoot.
It was more nimble than the GSA I bumped into and quite thin which helped.

Fuel consumption was anywhere from drinking it to super frugal.
I tried hammering it to see and sure enough it drank it esp at high motorway speed, but then you expect that.
What I didn't expect was it to do 65mpg at a constant 50 and trotting along.

It's a good bike but it could do with a few mods to make it great, a pipe and a better screen and you,ll be a lot happier.
But with it being only 500 quid cheaper than the Ktm why?
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:17 PM   #340
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It's a good bike but it could do with a few mods to make it great...
But with it being only 500 quid cheaper than the Ktm why?
Well, in Canada the price difference between a 2011 KTM and the 2012 Versys is $4,000. I haven't owned a KTM, but friends have owned 950 and 990's and from the Versys I expect better reliability (one 950 got bought back by the dealer it was so bad), easier servicing (some difficult access on KTM), and far more dealers and parts availability. For the $4,000 difference, I'm willing to make a few mods.

The KTM is certainly more capable on trails, but very few people take a bike that big and heavy on a trail - or as a Kawasaki rep said at the introduction, "we didn't want to build a bike for a market that is largely illusory". For an "all-arounder" that can do gravel roads without flinching, I think Kawasaki has a reasonable answer. KTM is making great strides from earlier product, but reminds me a bit of Audi - the magazines rave about almost all the new models, but in fine print there is often some line about "and we had to replace the $7,000 transmission, but it was done under warranty, so not included in test costs". Right.

Of course, since I'm waiting for my V1000 to arrive, I'm now officially biased!
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:31 PM   #341
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Of course, since I'm waiting for my V1000 to arrive, I'm now officially biased!


The KTM is hardcore and it is great to have that option for those gods of dirt out there. Gods cause lot's of trouble when they are bored. History tells us that.

For mere mortals though, a good all round bike is just the ticket.

It's good to have the choice for mere mortals these days with real budgets in mind.

I thinkl judging by the amount of Stroms out there sleeping on the side of dirt roads and tracks, The illusory thing really only applies to those that are worried about things breaking and resale value.

I know that KTM and Strom owners don;t seem to care about either as a general rule.

I am looking forward to the sleeping Versys pics as well.

But my biggest question is what is the plural of Versys?
What do I write if I see two of them and what is the collective noun?
Big questions I know, but we must be prepared.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:48 PM   #342
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The KTM is hardcore and it is great to have that option for those gods of dirt out there. Gods cause lot's of trouble when they are bored. History tells us that.

For mere mortals though, a good all round bike is just the ticket.

It's good to have the choice for mere mortals these days with real budgets in mind.

I thinkl judging by the amount of Stroms out there sleeping on the side of dirt roads and tracks, The illusory thing really only applies to those that are worried about things breaking and resale value.

I know that KTM and Strom owners don;t seem to care about either as a general rule.

I am looking forward to the sleeping Versys pics as well.

But my biggest question is what is the plural of Versys?
What do I write if I see two of them and what is the collective noun?
Big questions I know, but we must be prepared.
That's a beautiful post. Like poetry. And this is the best line:

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Old 04-05-2012, 01:45 AM   #343
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I don't want to do the versys any injustice, I think its a good bike and going to be very capable.
What I was kind of trying to say was that when you look at it it seems to have cheap components on it.
Things like the saddle covering and the plastics, the forks feel a bit budget.

I rode it back to back literally with a new KTM990 and the quality difference was easy to see and feel.

I'm no offroad God, far from it - but I notice build quality, and certainly the KTM had more soul.
That said I wouldn't buy the KTM I'd have the Kwack if it was a choice of the two.
The Kwack is a real world bike, it may not be as fancy, but it will go on forever.
My ZZR is at 91K now and motor wise good as new.

In the UK its only 500 separating the two, and if you're a low mileage rider, that services once a year then you may as well have the Kudos of the KTM and the better componentry. If like me you ride in everything, clock up to 30K a year with a bike thats permanently in a petrol garage or in for a service then the KTM is going to be hard work.

You'll no doubt love the Versys, I didn't want to give it back - it felt like it was my bike after four days.
Its easy, nimble and the engine is great, I think with a few mods it would come alive.
If I end up with one myself (which is possible) I'll whack on the Akra, a big screen, engine bars, and a rad guard.
It'll make 90K without breaking a sweat, and I'll be happy it has a bit more going on.

Thats if I don't get the XT1200Z thats currently a front runner.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:07 AM   #344
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Thats if I don't get the XT1200Z thats currently a front runner.
If you don't do much "off road" it may be a bit "out of spec" if you know what I mean.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:04 AM   #345
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Its not offroad I need, its shite roads, potholes, British winters, speed bumps, decent range and bomb proof.
100% reliabilty, capable of tackling snow, good on motorways but nimble in London.

It needs crash protection (last three bikes have all been knocked over while parked) - ZZR was nearly written off.
Decent service intervals as it racks up mileage, ability to carry tons of stuff if required
If its fun then its a bonus, a massive bonus as it'll stop me getting bored of it.
Needs to stay in my hands for 4-6 years min.

I narrowed my choice to Versys, XT, GS-A.

So far Versys is good and a contender, but the Yam is nosing it for me.

KTM is out, fuel/service is a no no, GSA well I like it but its a Buffalo in heavy traffic.
GS is a possible, but I can't get past the fact that the last BMW was permanently in for work under warrenty.

So we have XT or Versys.
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