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Old 04-05-2012, 07:37 AM   #346
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I'd say the Yamaha - but i'm biased.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:08 AM   #347
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The other issue is that there's not a lot of accessories for the Kwack yet, engine bars and bits and pieces are thin on the ground.

Someone here has bought a white one and is waiting for the handguards from Kawasaki - They love it.
It was an upgrade from the 650 apparently which did really well for them.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:58 PM   #348
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Hello all, Versys 1000 got my attention; unfortunately, no test bikes and not much info available here.

I wonder, whether the 364W alternator; would it be enough to accomodate a grip heater and a set of auxiliary fog lamps. Maybe a GPS and cigarette lighter supplied mobile phone charger. It seems to be too low for an adventure bike compared to a GS, Tenere' 720W or the new Triumph's 950W.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:59 PM   #349
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Hello all, Versys 1000 got my attention; unfortunately, no test bikes and not much info available here.

I wonder, whether the 364W alternator; would it be enough to accomodate a grip heater and a set of auxiliary fog lamps. Maybe a GPS and cigarette lighter supplied mobile phone charger. It seems to be too low for an adventure bike compared to a GS, Tenere' 720W or the new Triumph's 950W.
364W? Does it have the same alternator as the 650?
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:36 PM   #350
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The other issue is that there's not a lot of accessories for the Kwack yet, engine bars and bits and pieces are thin on the ground.

Someone here has bought a white one and is waiting for the handguards from Kawasaki - They love it.
It was an upgrade from the 650 apparently which did really well for them.
Yeah go the S10 and look at the Kwaka later if you have to. It has no trouble on the bumpy crap and will take it for years on end. DO take it off road for fun sometimes though. (but I have experience with the S10)
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:13 PM   #351
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S10 is a nice bike, not going to have the issues that some BMWs have, but again, quite a bit more money than the Versys. Am I just cheap? I'm also not that fussy about what I ride, it's where and how much. I used to be a bit of a vulture - wait until Christmas, and see what's left over that they want out the door cheap. That's how I ended up with a Nighthawk S, and then the FZ1 - not a bad place to end up. I did the dealer a favour and got the "family and friends" price on the V1000, so didn't have to wait until Christmas this time.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:40 AM   #352
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364W? Does it have the same alternator as the 650?
I don't know; I don't have any experience with Kawasakis.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:00 AM   #353
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The one I rode at Bowen Moto has Oxford heated grips and an auxiliary 12v fitted.
I tested the grips and they worked a treat mine were the old style ones on the zzr.

Xtz is now the bike of choice, but funds may dictate its the V1000 anyway.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:54 PM   #354
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If you don't do much "off road" it may be a bit "out of spec" if you know what I mean.
So, Graham, you wouldn't recommend the S10 unless one is clearly biased towards the offroad side of things?

Just wondering because I love the looks of the Yamaha but seldom leave the tarmac. I currently ride a V-Strom, if that helps.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:50 PM   #355
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So, Graham, you wouldn't recommend the S10 unless one is clearly biased towards the offroad side of things?

Just wondering because I love the looks of the Yamaha but seldom leave the tarmac. I currently ride a V-Strom, if that helps.
Well it's better than the Strom on the road, but "more better" off road. It is setup to work well off road, so tends toward stability rather than "nervous" fast handling. Everything in the suspension is quality, the bike is tough and it will cop a pounding from sunrise to sunset carrying big loads. The downside with that is that it weighs a bit more than is necessary for just road use.

My comment was about the bias of the bikes. The Kwaka, is a more streety bike, has an IL4 and has that frenetic kind of go go go character, The S10 is a bit slower in the steering to keep it stable in the rough and is deceptively fast because of an unfussed engine that just accelerates without the rider noticing as much.

It took me a about 1000Km to get used to the S10's slower steering response after the DL1000, but everything else is better.

The DL1000 I consider a jacked up street bike as with the V1000, The S10 is a nuclear powered dirt pig and a real deal RTW bike.

The upside of the planted stability of the S10 is the fact that it is un-fazed on rough tarmac. Just eats it up and holds its line. It is also more expensive than the the V1000. I am not advocating either bike over the other, just the S10 is more biased for off road, and has a few compromises in steering geometry to achieve that.

Since I don't race people in high speed mountain switchbacks it's not an issue for me. It's good to have such a variety of platforms these days. I am glad that YAMAHA made the real deal with the S10 and also glad that Kawasaki and Honda came out with 4 cylinder engined bikes with a different bias. It allows people a better match to their requirements for budget and use.

Its a good time to be a rider. I'll be keeping the S10 for a while though but it's good to watch the segment evolve as well and great that manufacturers have given us the range of compromises that they have.

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Old 04-07-2012, 07:57 PM   #356
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nice link where the choice is .... yours!!! Whatever suits you and your wallet...
http://www.moto-station.com/article1...our-vous-.html
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:30 PM   #357
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Thanks a lot Graham.

Let's see if Yamaha puts the S10 motor in a new TDM and we may have another interesting option.

I ride almost 100% onroad but yesterday I took a mild offroad diversion (it just took 15 minutes) and had the time of my life...
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:31 AM   #358
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UK importers are running a tasty promo..

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Offer/Details/34092CF722D

Must throw a leg over one. Was suitably impressed with the S variant.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:46 AM   #359
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Versys 1000.

There is a new one for sale in Calgary at Blackfoot Motosports. $13,999.
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:48 PM   #360
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Holeshot in the Lower Mainland advertised one at $12,999 plus PDI.
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