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Old 08-28-2012, 01:25 PM   #226
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Finally pulled the top end today.
Everything came apart with no problems, no surprises, except for this...



The chrome bores look fabulous. The rings are superb. Wristpin snug and smooth. No rust. No flakes. The right head probably shoulda been torqued 20,000 miles ago...O well!

The only problem with this bike is it is dirty after 46,000 miles and sitting quietly after 11 years.

The left side big end rod bearings are snug. The right side is giving me a "hint" of side to side play.

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Old 08-29-2012, 07:38 PM   #227
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:12 PM   #228
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Can I ask a random question? Do all Eldorados have the backwards shift pattern? (compared to BMWs or jap bikes) When did Guzzi go to the present-day standard?
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Old 09-01-2012, 01:55 AM   #229
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Can I ask a random question? Do all Eldorados have the backwards shift pattern? (compared to BMWs or jap bikes) When did Guzzi go to the present-day standard?
No they don't...............I think most shifted the traditional way and those that don't had a optional shifter drum fitted post factory. The optional shifter drum was preferred for racing I'm told. There was always a chance some came from the factory with the wrong (racing) drum fitted................those factory workers and their grappa.

I've an Eldo with a backward pattern but the gearbox has been rebuilt in the past..............I've owned 4 other Eldo's all conventional.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:24 AM   #230
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No they don't...............I think most shifted the traditional way and those that don't had a optional shifter drum fitted post factory. The optional shifter drum was preferred for racing I'm told. There was always a chance some came from the factory with the wrong (racing) drum fitted................those factory workers and their grappa.

I've an Eldo with a backward pattern but the gearbox has been rebuilt in the past..............I've owned 4 other Eldo's all conventional.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:01 PM   #231
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:42 PM   #232
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No they don't...............I think most shifted the traditional way and those that don't had a optional shifter drum fitted post factory. The optional shifter drum was preferred for racing I'm told. There was always a chance some came from the factory with the wrong (racing) drum fitted................those factory workers and their grappa.

I've an Eldo with a backward pattern but the gearbox has been rebuilt in the past..............I've owned 4 other Eldo's all conventional.
In my experience, the only Eldos that have a "normal" 1 down - 4 up shift pattern are those with the original factory footboard setup, those that someone has reworked the linkage or changed the shift drum or complete transmission. Every original "civilian" Eldo that I've worked on has had the "backwards" 1 up - 4 down shift pattern.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:53 PM   #233
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In my experience, the only Eldos that have a "normal" 1 down - 4 up shift pattern are those with the original factory footboard setup, those that someone has reworked the linkage or changed the shift drum or complete transmission. Every original "civilian" Eldo that I've worked on has had the "backwards" 1 up - 4 down shift pattern.
also known as GP shifting. I actually prefer it- its much easier to push down than pull up. I am not sure why the standard shifting pattern is not this. my 350 sport was GP until I went to rear sets that made it Right hand shift and standard. I'm fine with right hand, but i'd like to go back to GP style- but there is an engine casing in the way at the moment.

meanwhile- AMAZING. you got to be happy with such a pristine bore!
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Is neutral between first and second with these machines?
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:11 PM   #235
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In my experience, the only Eldos that have a "normal" 1 down - 4 up shift pattern are those with the original factory footboard setup, those that someone has reworked the linkage or changed the shift drum or complete transmission. Every original "civilian" Eldo that I've worked on has had the "backwards" 1 up - 4 down shift pattern.
My Eldo was always a civilian peg model, and it had the heel-toe shifter and shifted 1 up, 4 down. I put a toe-only shifter on it and Stephen's SOB, so it shifts like the rest of my left-shift bikes.
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Is neutral between first and second with these machines?
Yep. Sometimes they have to be there to start, too.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:17 PM   #237
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Yep. Sometimes they have to be there to start, too.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:22 PM   #238
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:30 PM   #239
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he paid money for that?

just noticed this. YES! well, you know that 4ls brake is worth at least $500 just by itself right? its a crazy world out there.
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In my experience, the only Eldos that have a "normal" 1 down - 4 up shift pattern are those with the original factory footboard setup, those that someone has reworked the linkage or changed the shift drum or complete transmission. Every original "civilian" Eldo that I've worked on has had the "backwards" 1 up - 4 down shift pattern.
Tis odd............I've had a 73 civilian, pegs and a 74 California, boards, and the both shifted the same way. One down four up.

The latest civilian I picked up I was told the previous owner rebuilt the trans with the reverse pattern gear box.......so it's one up four down, it does have a strange stamp on the tranny bellhousing near the starter a "Z1"............the other two Eldo's I just got, a 74 police and a 74 California are one down and four up. Both boards.



I'll look at some more of the bikes at Classics........I'll pay more attention to the civilians.
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