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Old 03-02-2013, 11:44 AM   #406
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The closer you look

...the better it gets!

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Old 03-03-2013, 12:55 PM   #407
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:51 PM   #408
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Dan your rear light is from an 850-T3 california, this is what you should have...



you are doing a great job, looking forward to some ride reports this summer.

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Old 03-03-2013, 05:09 PM   #409
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I Dunno

If I remember correctly,
All vehicles registered for US highways after 1972 were required to have "directionals". Including motos.
They musta slapped anything they had on there.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:23 PM   #410
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Somebody's Got A Lot of Splainin' to do

Followed the instructions.
Loosen the top bolt a coupla turns and give it a huge whack with a dead blow hammer.
Remove top bolt and extract fork... Check.EZ
Worked great on the left fork.
Four hours later I finally released the top bolt from the confines of the ??? nut on the right fork involving many tools and primitive methods and swear words...TOTAL PAIN IN THE ASS!!

Upon further review, I can't even find the threaded sleeve on the fiche that the 36mm nut fits in to...
The fork on the left seems normal, what going on with the right?

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Old 03-09-2013, 02:56 PM   #411
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I think the one on the right is correct, except for the fact the smaller thread should not have seperated from the finer larger thread? if that makes sense? so in reality you need to unscrew both the inserts that you have left in the fork stanchions. They should have come out with the top nuts.
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:07 PM   #412
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The tavola shows the top nut going into fork. Nothing intermediary.
The top nut was bound up and pulled the fork top piece? out with it.
Of course everything was now free to spin. It was a bear to separate the top nut from the unidentified fork top receiver thingamabob...
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:56 PM   #413
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Dan I am sure the fork top nut should not have seperated from the other section, they should both have come out as one piece...
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:05 PM   #414
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On discs Eldos, there is the "cap, front fork" (#2 on Plate 2 here: http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/m...supplement.pdf ) which has the 36mm hex top and the "sleeve, front fork" (#3 on Plate 2) which it threads into. To disassemble the forks, the "cap" is first removed, then the M8 socket-head cap screw (#4 on Plate 2) down in the top of the "sleeve" is removed. The slider, damper cartridge and spring unit will then slide down and off of the tube. The "sleeve" can be removed with a homemade tool or one like this: http://www.pacificcustoms.com/AC000139.html

Lots of information on Greg Bender's website about the disc forks, just click on "D" in the general index. Here's just a sample:
http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/m...nd_tube_sleeve
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:28 PM   #415
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well done Charlie, that explains it all.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:30 AM   #416
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AH HAH!
Silly me
I was looking under F for forks, not D for discs.
It still wouldn't have helped much as the sleeve was seized on the top nut.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:55 PM   #417
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AH HAH!
the sleeve was seized on the top nut.
That's not unusal, doesn't absolutely have to come out. When I find them stuck, I leave them in place and just submerge the whole tube in my parts washer. Unless the tube needs to be replaced, then the fun starts...
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:02 AM   #418
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Rusty crusty

This was the whole reason dismantling the front forks to begin with. Turning the handlebars was like turning the handle on one of them old fashioned meat grinders. Both bearing were rusted to death. I ordered replacements before I had it apart.
Now that I see water entry problems I'm wondering if I shouldn't have replaced the old with new [U]sealed[U] bearings. There isn't any seal to prevent water from getting in there. Just grease?



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Old 03-11-2013, 10:04 AM   #419
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They make sealed tapered roller bearings?

Water shouldn't be getting in there if the bike is stored upright. Fresh grease and that little chrome cap should keep water out.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:27 AM   #420
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It sat unused for 11 years, in a barn, upstate NY.
I'd guess that was enough...
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