DL1000 increase MPG

[DenniSMC]

Funny. I did something similar with my r1 in 99. I found 89 vs 94. And I got better mileage and HP with the 89. I guess it's a motor thing. Thanks for the help.


On a side note. I traded with a friend on a ride. He rode my GS and I rode his wee. It was not bad. In some ways it felt snappier then my beat GS. I would not have any problem doing 700 mile days on it. Hell I did them on my KLR. I just cruise at 10 over speeds and tend to stay off the super slabs. But its nice to humm along around 80 at 3500 RPM if your doing big miles.

[BikeMan]

Originally Posted by DenniSMC

Funny. I did something similar with my r1 in 99..

i think you need to update your compar-o.

[DenniSMC]

Maybe. But the dunno didn't lie. The lower octane on 3 different r1's produced more hp. We were all shocked by our findings.

But I agree that a larger motor running easy can be better on gas then a smaller motor working its ass off. So if a fully loaded Vee with my 300plus lb fat ass on it may do better then a wee on fuel the way I ride. 10 over on the street. And not super aggressive on the track. I control ride at track days(see the adventure scooterist link below for track videos). I don't fly. Just smooth and steady at a good pace. Yeah on the street I go the distance, not at a fast pace.

[DenniSMC]

Gee. It's nice being called a liar by a complete stranger. A person who was not there. The bikes also ran cooler and produces almost 2 more HP. Different bikes run different on different fuel. And I stand by what I said. It was the results we got back then. Been running 89 since.

[Mark_O]

Originally Posted by DenniSMC

Gee. It's nice being called a liar by a complete stranger. A person who was not there. The bikes also ran cooler and produces almost 2 more HP. Different bikes run different on different fuel. And I stand by what I said. It was the results we got back then. Been running 89 since.

Quoted so the can see it. Now you can put me on ignore also.
So only your little 1000 mile test has any validity huh? Everybody else that has different results is either lying or a Moron to you. I am the friend of Dennis's with the DL650 and I stand by his/my words.

Maybe you could explain how doing a 500 mile day is so much nicer on the 1000 vs the 650. You seem to know it all. Have a swell day.

[Boon Booni]

Originally Posted by BikeMan

i doubt it very much. i heard at hi-way speeds of 85-90mph they only get in mid 30's mpg. which is less than vee.

I can't speak for 85-90mph, but my commute is a constant 75mph and my DL650 averages 50mpg during the summer, and 42 ish as a worst in the winter.

Of course this is with 87 octane. But my experience with high octane is no change in fuel consumption.

I've also found that the seat and my earplugs have more to do with my comfort on a 500 mile day than the motor.

[BikeMan]

do your own compar-o. i'd be interested in hearing what your results are. g-luck & ride safe.

[Mikemm]

Originally Posted by BikeMan

do your own compar-o. i'd be interested in hearing what your results are. g-luck & ride safe.

Compar-o king drive by!

[Zundfolge]

Just some more data to show that these small tests do not prove anything. I recently did an IBA ride and just looked at the data from my trip. This was on a V-Strom 650 and all fuel was premium:

mileage__miles___gallons__mpg
--------------------------------------------------
136.4___136.4___2.889___47.2
265.3___128.9___2.844___45.3
382.2___116.9___2.400___48.7
514.4___132.2___2.633___50.2
603.5____89.1___1.708___52.1
720.0___116.5___2.459___47.3
813.4____93.4___1.896___49.2
914.0___100.6___2.022___49.7

So I ranged from 45.3 to 52.1 mpg while using premium. As BikePilot stated, the biggest difference likely comes from the different (or lack of) ethanol blends that stations use, but there are just too many differences between fuels (in addition to ambient temperature, terrain, etc) to ever get meaningful fuel comparison tests on a road trip.

Originally Posted by BikeMan

i heard at hi-way speeds of 85-90mph they only get in mid 30's mpg. which is less than vee.

Funny, the lowest I got at interstate speeds was 45.3 mpg (averaged 48.7). I doubt this will prevent you from continuing to spread your misinformation though.

Originally Posted by BikeMan

no kidding. i would hate doing 500mi. days on any 650.

This, however, is where you really show that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Mark_O]

I think the OP will find your methodology suspect.

[whittrated03]

Originally Posted by boxermoose

In other words your just another dope who's bought into the marketing BS that gas with a higher anti-knock index is better because it has the word "premium" in it

you found no net gain overall mileage to cost

Short answer is - use the fuel recommended for your vehicle

The guy didnt say he was saving $! That wasnt the objective....im sure it was based merely of curiosity. A more complete combustion is more effecient, thats all. Dope..?? Must be a south texas thing

[whittrated03]

Originally Posted by DenniSMC

Funny. I did something similar with my r1 in 99. I found 89 vs 94. And I got better mileage and HP with the 89. I guess it's a motor thing. Thanks for the help.


On a side note. I traded with a friend on a ride. He rode my GS and I rode his wee. It was not bad. In some ways it felt snappier then my beat GS. I would not have any problem doing 700 mile days on it. Hell I did them on my KLR. I just cruise at 10 over speeds and tend to stay off the super slabs. But its nice to humm along around 80 at 3500 RPM if your doing big miles.

My 03 Yamaha FZ1 was the same way. It idled and ran smoother with better MPG using 87 octane. Its the nature of that beast.

[whittrated03]

Originally Posted by DenniSMC

According to my friend he averages around 250 to reserve. And he says he has about a gallon left. And does better if he stays off the interstate. He rides mixed. Fast and slow. He likes to do the big mile days like me.

To make a long story short I am between bikes. I want one of three bikes for now. A KLR, Vee or Wee. I had a KLR and liked it. But I do a lot of 500 mile days. And a bigger bike would probably suit my needs better. But maybe a Wee would split things down the middle. Ultimately I will buy what ever deal come first and best in the spring. My GS got around the same mileage as the Vee. So I can live with it. I would get around 225 on a tank riding into reserve. Where the KLR would hit 280. This will be a transition bike until I work out some issues I am having.

Test ride a Wee. I have a 04' which ive been able to rack up a easy 54k on the odometer. Going up a tooth on the CS sprocket will drop the RPMs from 6k in the interstate to about 5250-5300. Fuel and oil consumption rises at about the 6k RPM mark. I run mine at 5300 rom at 70-75 mph and consistently get 54mpg. Stock engine with K&N filter and Mobil Delvac 1300 15-40w diesel truck oil.

[BikeMan]

Originally Posted by BikeMan

i recently did a 900+ mile 87 vs 93 octane MPG compar-o. i averaged 2.9 more mpg with 93 octane.

the above experiment was done in 2011. in addition back in 2010, i did a 3000 mile 87-89-93 octane mpg compar-o. with similar results. as in, higher the octane, better the mpg. note of interest, the highest one grade jump in average mpg, was between 87-89..

[Mark_O]