Yooperbikemike's 2012 MotoGP Thread - Page 204

mdubya · 07-25-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal Crrutchlow

Oh & for everyone asking.I really don’t know about next season yet & not this weekend either.There will be a signing announcement…but not me

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Skowinski · 07-25-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mdubya

I agree.

People suggesting these guys just jump to WSBK like its no big deal don't realize they are asking them to jump from making $2 million a year to being lucky to make $ 200k a year.

Not everyone in Moto GP make $2 mil per year, but Ben and Nicky do, or close to it.

I'd take $200k/year to race motorbikes, where do I sign up?

Oh, wait a minute, I never was very fast, and now I'm old, never mind....

Edit: Hell, I'd clean bathrooms for $200k a year, and at $2M a year I'd need one year to be set for retirement.

Clem Kevin · 07-25-2012, 11:06 AM

I like how we know how much everybody makes. Where do we learn every motorbike racer's income. Is there a wiki for that?

mdubya · 07-25-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Skowinski

I'd take $200k/year to race motorbikes, where do I sign up?

Oh, wait a minute, I never was very fast, and now I'm old, never mind....

Edit: Hell, I'd clean bathrooms for $200k a year, and at $2M a year I'd need one year to be set for retirement.

Real world, it would be asking someone who makes $200K to go to making $20K or, maybe even more realistically, someone who makes $20K to go to making $2K a year.

And there are only a couple of seats that actually pay in WSBK. Though Moto GP is becoming more and more like that.

mdubya · 07-25-2012, 11:27 AM

Julian Ryder seem to be sure that Spies has signed for BMW in SBK for 2 years.

Motorcyclist · 07-25-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodovitch

Good replies from Lorenzo on wether he objects to Rossi on the factory squad:

over here

So, is he maturing or is this just PR talk?

I vote pure PR.

"We have been a good couple in the past." That is true, if you mean good couple in a dysfunctional way.

I'll bet Lorenzo is telling everyone who will listen at Yamaha that he doesn't want Rossi there in any way shape or form. Unless, he feels that he can humiliate Rossi on equal machinery. And that would be a very dangerous gamble.

KHVol · 07-25-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorcyclist

I vote pure PR.

"We have been a good couple in the past." That is true, if you mean good couple a dysfunctional way.

I'll bet Lorenzo is telling everyone who will listen at Yamaha that he doesn't want Rossi there in any way shape of form. Unless, he feels that he can humiliate Rossi on equal machinery. And that would be a very dangerous gamble.

There is very little margin for distraction in MotoGP racing . Rossi would be a major distraction for Lorenzo , Rossi knows this and would make sure there is plenty of it...

Silver · 07-25-2012, 12:28 PM

On Spies. So rumor is very strong he signed for BMW for 2 years. Say next year is SBK, what about BMW wanting to be in MotoGP(not as a CRT) and take this year and next year building a bike for it. Year in SBK for Spies to get used to their setup. 2014, Spies on a BMW MotoGP factory ride.

Ya?

Pecha72 · 07-25-2012, 12:33 PM

We haven´t really seen Rossi & Lorenzo, who´s beating who on equal machinery. Rossi was the master until 2010, but back then Jorge was still learning, and when he looked ready to challenge, then came the leg incident. Seems to me it could have gone either way, had they both stayed healthy. Could be interesting to see them continue that rivalry, but I still somehow doubt it´s gonna happen.

wbedient · 07-25-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver

2014, Spies on a BMW MotoGP factory ride.

Ya?

That would be a huge investment on the part of BMW. Has BMW said anything about MotoGP plans??

sailor22 · 07-25-2012, 12:51 PM

I'm thinking Ben is glad to be leaving the GP paddock and isn't interested in coming back.

mdubya · 07-25-2012, 12:59 PM

Are any of Ben's old Yamaha SBK team on the BMW Italia team?

UngaWunga · 07-25-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver

On Spies. So rumor is very strong he signed for BMW for 2 years. Say next year is SBK, what about BMW wanting to be in MotoGP(not as a CRT) and take this year and next year building a bike for it. Year in SBK for Spies to get used to their setup. 2014, Spies on a BMW MotoGP factory ride.

Ya?

But.... bmw has just said they're not returning for 2013. They'll be giving support to the GoldBet BMW team, but there won't be a factory team.

So, wtf...

azkiwi · 07-25-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pecha72

Could be interesting to see them continue that rivalry, but I still somehow doubt it´s gonna happen.

Sure seems like it would be difficult for Yamaha to manage. Both riders would want the bike developed for themselves, and first access to new parts and there would be no second rider for parts-testing duty. Even if Rossi brought enough sponsorship to pay his own way, the conflicts might be legendary.

Motorcyclist · 07-25-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UngaWunga

But.... bmw has just said they're not returning for 2013. They'll be giving support to the GoldBet BMW team, but there won't be a factory team.

So, wtf...

I thought I heard that BMW were paying Marco's salary next year. Now maybe Ben's too?

07-25-2012, 11:27 AM	#3050
mdubya Right Brigade Joined: Oct 2005 Location: western, MD Oddometer: 5,779	Julian Ryder seem to be sure that Spies has signed for BMW in SBK for 2 years. __________________ +0

07-25-2012, 12:59 PM	#3057
mdubya Right Brigade Joined: Oct 2005 Location: western, MD Oddometer: 5,779	Are any of Ben's old Yamaha SBK team on the BMW Italia team? __________________ +0

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07-25-2012, 11:06 AM	#3048
Clem Kevin Nude With Boots Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Oddometer: 518	I like how we know how much everybody makes. Where do we learn every motorbike racer's income. Is there a wiki for that?

07-25-2012, 12:28 PM	#3053
Silver No planning, just go. Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK. Oddometer: 2,169	On Spies. So rumor is very strong he signed for BMW for 2 years. Say next year is SBK, what about BMW wanting to be in MotoGP(not as a CRT) and take this year and next year building a bike for it. Year in SBK for Spies to get used to their setup. 2014, Spies on a BMW MotoGP factory ride. Ya?

07-25-2012, 12:33 PM	#3054
Pecha72 Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Helsinki, Finland Oddometer: 1,401	We haven´t really seen Rossi & Lorenzo, who´s beating who on equal machinery. Rossi was the master until 2010, but back then Jorge was still learning, and when he looked ready to challenge, then came the leg incident. Seems to me it could have gone either way, had they both stayed healthy. Could be interesting to see them continue that rivalry, but I still somehow doubt it´s gonna happen.

07-25-2012, 12:51 PM	#3056
sailor22 Jay Pegg pusher Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Steamy Florida Swamps Oddometer: 263	I'm thinking Ben is glad to be leaving the GP paddock and isn't interested in coming back.