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Old 10-31-2012, 12:36 PM   #5191
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The translation is not completely clear.

Is the ECU also provided by HRC? If so and if I understood the article I suspect HRC would not be in a hurry to investigate.
As I read it they are messing with the inputs to the ECU to confuse it to run richer at change points maintaining that bit more power, so not changing eh ECU and it's mapping but adding mapping/ signalling to the inputs to prevent the leaning out condition at gearchange.
I'm not sure I see that making the difference that sees Marquez ride from the rear of the field to the front, there might be some rider skill involved there...
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:07 PM   #5192
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As I read it they are messing with the inputs to the ECU to confuse it to run richer at change points maintaining that bit more power, so not changing eh ECU and it's mapping but adding mapping/ signalling to the inputs to prevent the leaning out condition at gearchange.
I'm not sure I see that making the difference that sees Marquez ride from the rear of the field to the front, there might be some rider skill involved there...
Yes, I understood that part it just wasn't clear if HRC was involved in any investigation.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:16 PM   #5193
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Yes, I understood that part it just wasn't clear if HRC was involved in any investigation.
Clearly I mis-understood what you understood....

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Old 10-31-2012, 02:14 PM   #5194
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Rossi back in the front fight would mean Jorge & Dani will need to handle the dogfighting tactics more than they've had to do recently. In fact that is something I'd like to see them prove they can and will do, if required, and not start bitching about being raced unfairly.
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The translation is not completely clear.

Is the ECU also provided by HRC? If so and if I understood the article I suspect HRC would not be in a hurry to investigate.
The way I understand the original text is that Honda provides the engines, sealed, and therefore any tinkering would have to focus on the ECU. THen in the end it only says "read in the current issue [...] why HRC vp Shoei Nakamoto in this case speaks of magic" (inter alia), nothing whether they are involved in the investigation.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:05 PM   #5195
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Wow Ant West, that was some serious cough syrup..
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:10 PM   #5196
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Misano, a track with a lot more acceleration spots (actually one of toughest for MotoGP because of fuel usage):

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Lap record, Checa, 2012: 1'36.080

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PI is a weird track. Last year, one of the Australian SBK machines lapped as fast as the slowest MotoGP machine.
One need only think back to Jeremy McWilliams taking pole on the KR3 against the new 4 strokes. For my money, maybe even a match for a Casey lap at the Island.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:49 PM   #5197
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West fails Drug Test -WTF!!

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Anthony West looks set to miss the forthcoming Valencia Moto2 season finale after being handed a one-month ban following the results of an anti-doping test at Le Mans in May.

A prohibited stimulant, Methylhexaneamine, was found during the analysis.

According to Wikipedia, Methylhexaneamine was originally intended as a nasal decongestant and "has been marketed as a dietary supplement in combination with caffeine and other ingredients, under trade names such as Geranamine and Floradrene, to be used as an over-the-counter thermogenic or general-purpose stimulant."

While West has also been disqualified from his seventh place finish at the French Grand Prix, his runner-up results at the last two rounds do not appear to be in jeopardy.

"Following FIM anti-doping controls carried out during the FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix meeting held in Le Mans (FRA), one of the samples was found not in accordance with the FIM Anti-Doping Code," said the FIM statement.

"The sample of Australian Moto2 class rider Anthony West contained Methylhexaneamine, a substance included in 'S.6b Specified Stimulants' prohibited in competition, and thereby infringed Art 2.1 of the 2012 FIM Anti-Doping Code.

"Following the hearing of the rider, the CDI decided to disqualify Anthony West from the French round of the 2012 FIM Moto2 World Championship, held on 20 May in Le Mans.

"In addition, the CDI imposes on the rider a sanction of one month's period of ineligibility to compete in any meeting authorised or organised by the FIM or any FIM-affiliated federation or body or in any competitions authorised or organised by any international or national level meeting organisation, from 30 October 2012.

"An appeal may be lodged with the International Tribunal of Appeal (TIA) within 5 day as from the notification of the decision."

West's case revives memories of Noriyuki Haga's positive test for ephedrine early in the 2000 World Superbike season, caused by a dietary supplement Haga had used over the winter.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:08 AM   #5198
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Honda: Stoner turned down 15 Million

(Not sure if they meant Dollars or Euros)
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:14 AM   #5199
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Also it is worth to check average speed over race distance or total race time if same number of laps are raced. SBK might put down a quick one on the qualifiers but lack the race pace MotoGP has. This year at the Island fastest SBK race pace was Biaggi's 171,4kph at race1. Stoner did 175,7kph average speed. Biaggi would have finished MotoGP race at P12 right behind Aspar ART-bikes who did 171,5kph over race distance. That's over a minute behind Stoner.
Superb sleuthing! Thanks for that, I shall be stealing those statistics.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:15 AM   #5200
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:49 AM   #5201
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Ah. That explains what "magic" Nakamoto was suppsed to speak of. Because it would take magic to achieve what they accuse them of.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:11 PM   #5202
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Oooh, I dunno, I'm sure we could get 10 pages of arquement about that without trying too much...



That german translation was bloody hard to read, my brain cell hurts.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:06 PM   #5203
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I wish Americans would pull their heads out of their butts and embrace MotoGP so we could get more of this stuff in english... thanks for all that you do Krop!
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:28 PM   #5204
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I wish Americans would pull their heads out of their butts and embrace MotoGP so we could get more of this stuff in english... thanks for all that you do Krop!
You know, there's this place where English comes from. It's called England. And they have motorsports too.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:17 PM   #5205
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You know, there's this place where English comes from. It's called England. And they have motorsports too.
None of them thar talk good niether.
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