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Old 04-02-2012, 10:59 AM   #106
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Good crowd. And that's with little or no marketing in Atlanta, a short drive away.

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Barber Motorsports Park announced its three-day crowd at 81,000, with 52,000 coming out to watch Sunday's feature race.
I'd say this year's Barber race is one of IndyCar's success stories. Great race, well-appreciated.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:19 AM   #107
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I watched some of the race yesterday, mostly 'cause it was at Barber (fantastic track), and there was some good racing, like Marco rubbing and making some aggressive passes.

I do think these new cars are UGLY! And I thought it's interesting that now Lotus is an engine manufacturer; they've always been a chassis builder first and engine builder 2nd. Is this the first time a lotus engine went in a chassis other than a Lotus? Hopefully we'll see some Ford powered cars in the future.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:44 AM   #108
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of the rear wheel shroud, although for some reason it looked better at Barber than St. Pete. Maybe I'm just getting used to it. Nice to see that the car is sturdy.

Speaking of which, someone waved a magic wand over these drivers and made them stop wrecking each other. St. Pete was amazingly clean. Long Beach will really tell the story. But I can't remember seeing one driver spin out another in either race. Not even Helio.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:45 AM   #109
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I watched some of the race yesterday, mostly 'cause it was at Barber (fantastic track), and there was some good racing, like Marco rubbing and making some aggressive passes.

I do think these new cars are UGLY!
The cars are growing on me. There's a really bad front 3/4 angle that makes them look really out of balance but there's also some very good lines when viewed from other angles. I hope Barber wasn't a fluke because that was a genuinely fun race.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:55 AM   #110
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I'm not a huge fan of the new car's look either, but these are beauty queens compared to F1 these days.

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Old 04-13-2012, 03:04 PM   #112
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So all the Chevy teams are being told to change engines and take a 10 spot grid penalty. Meanwhile Lotus struggled to bring just one extra engine to the track this weekend. It really puts Bourdais' achievement into perspective.

I think Chevy said the engine management system was off. I wonder if that means the engines were pushed too hard in the first two races? If so, will Chevy's edge now go away?
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:21 PM   #113
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Snafu with the Honda turbos as well.

Here's hoping the race will be good in spite of all the other issues surrounding the event (and series).

I wouldn't mind seeing Marco Andretti take a win at Long Beach, for old times sake. Doubtful, though.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #114
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Snafu with the Honda turbos as well.

Here's hoping the race will be good in spite of all the other issues surrounding the event (and series).
Interesting issue. This is the kind of wrinkle that makes having multiple engine suppliers interesting.

I hope the race is more like Barber than St. Pete, tho the odds are against it, being a street course. Usually the bodywork is spread all over the track here. Let's see if the drivers can maintain the admirable discipline they've shown so far this season.
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of the rear wheel shroud, although for some reason it looked better at Barber than St. Pete. Maybe I'm just getting used to it. Nice to see that the car is sturdy.

Speaking of which, someone waved a magic wand over these drivers and made them stop wrecking each other. St. Pete was amazingly clean. Long Beach will really tell the story. But I can't remember seeing one driver spin out another in either race. Not even Helio.
yeah, i'd rather see "flip up" style body work than that large tunnel, but i think the tunnel is less drag. the wheel guard in the back isn't entirely attractive either, but it does have that prototype vibe from alms.

i think the shortage of parts is helping to keep everyone somewhat calm. once the supply chain fills up it will probably return to the "festival of carbon fibre."
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Yeah, you're probably right. Same with NASCAR drivers. They've proven they can race without wrecking when they need to. When they wreck, it's by choice.

One Honda in the top 6 qualifiers. I think maybe IndyCar will let them switch to that mini-twin turbo dealie.
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One Honda in the top 6 qualifiers. I think maybe IndyCar will let them switch to that mini-twin turbo dealie.
What if the single turbo has an advantage on ovals?
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What if the single turbo has an advantage on ovals?
If the problem is lag, I don't understand why it would.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:40 AM   #119
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Yeah, you're probably right. Same with NASCAR drivers. They've proven they can race without wrecking when they need to. When they wreck, it's by choice.


well, i guess i wasn't suggesting it was choice, but a certain level of aggression or restraint, depending upon the circumstances. they do seem to be doing an excellent job keeping the red mist in check.

for now.

the new nbcsports coverage really cuts quite a bit out of the qualifying rounds. three minutes here, three minutes there...
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If the problem is lag, I don't understand why it would.
I'm just thinking out loud. The must be some reason Honda went the single route, while Lotus and the bow tie went with two.
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