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Old 11-12-2011, 02:00 PM   #1
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New Arai Tour X - XD4

http://www.araihelmet-europe.com/201...-face/tour-x4/

Checked this out from a heads up in the vendor thread.

Redesigned visor - vents - liner - shape
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Old 11-12-2011, 03:20 PM   #2
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Doesn't look a whole lot different. But I like the idea of the pads that you can re-size. Seems like one of those "why haven't they always done that?" ideas.

It says the visor has a new shape too. It would be nice if it is treated with something to resist fogging. That was really my only gripe with my XD3.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:11 PM   #3
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Redesigned visor - vents - liner - shape
Damn I think my XD is about perfect but itís getting old. I donít want a redesigned helmet
More then one happy XD owner bought the XD3 and then didnít like it.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:59 PM   #4
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Damn I think my XD is about perfect but itís getting old. I donít want a redesigned helmet
More then one happy XD owner bought the XD3 and then didnít like it.
The redesigned peak on the XD3 sucked. It would vibrate and whistle endlessly. I took it off and put the XD peak on. The colors don't match - nothing a little vinyl body wrap can't fix - but it's a big improvement over the "improvement."

Otherwise a nice helmet. Not sure it's worth the price I paid, but I like the features and awful lot.
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Old 11-13-2011, 04:39 AM   #5
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I've had both XD and XD3. If they are going to "redesign" then do it. The XD3 was little more than minor tweaks, as this one appears as well. It would be kind of nice for Arai to go beyond the BGN approach and fix some of the flaws that they seem content on ignoring.

Things such as:
- crap shield mount
- distorted vision
- noisy visor
- overly complex and fragile ducts

By the way, I LOVE my XD3 and XD before it. Don't get me wrong. One of the few helmets that I can where for 14hrs straight and it feels like I just put it on. It's just frustrating that for the money, they don't do more when the model evolves.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:10 AM   #6
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It says the visor has a new shape too. It would be nice if it is treated with something to resist fogging. That was really my only gripe with my XD3.
I think you need more then anti fog treatment. I am a little surprised manufactures donít offer a double lens face shield. I think snowmobile helmets have them.
My XD fogs easily in cold and/or wet weather but not as easily as my Shoei RF1000
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Old 11-13-2011, 06:52 AM   #7
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:31 AM   #8
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I think you need more then anti fog treatment.
Some mechanical solution (dual pane, Pinlock) would obviously be the most effective solution. But it would also add a decent amount to cost. Other manufacturers treat their visors to varying success. My HJC was far better than the Arai and my new Scorpion is even better still. Not sure what Scorpion does, but they seem to be known for fog resistant shields.

My XD3 was the only helmet I've owned that absolutely needed a Pinlock. It was also by far the most expensive and I wasn't thrilled about compounding that with the added cost of the Pinlock and shield. Certainly Arai could more effectively deal with the fogging since other manufacturers seem to be able to do it even at lower price points. At the very least, a Pinlock-ready shield would be a nice touch.
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:09 AM   #9
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Damn I think my XD is about perfect but itís getting old. I donít want a redesigned helmet
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Ditto, what Muddy Cat said.
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:16 AM   #10
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My XD3 was the only helmet I've owned that absolutely needed a Pinlock.
That is what I think about my Shoei RF1000. That thing fogs up over nothing.
Iíve been meaning to get a pinlock shield and keep putting it off. Fogging hasnít been a huge problem for me but Iíd be more comfortable if I could keep the shield down all the time on the road.
I have come across the Golden Gate too many times by Braille though. Couldnít see sh.. Pinlock would be a big help.
Where do I get the pinlock shield and lens for my XD?
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That's handsome...

But I've got a Shoei head!
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Where do I get the pinlock shield and lens for my XD?
I got mine here:
http://www.theservicepavilion.com/
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:38 PM   #13
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Finally!!

A nice orange one to match my KTM


I've been relegated to using a blue and white one for the last couple if years

And I like the sounds of the improvements over my Tour-X 3 like the visor, pads with a spring for a snug fit, better venting, and even the brow vents off my old Quantum
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:00 PM   #14
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:43 PM   #15
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I just bought an XD3, so I'm pretty familiar with all it's features as I've been slavering over them for some time. Just looked at that link above and the only new thing I can see is the brow vents. I have an Arai Quantum and those vents on the Quantum are pretty ineffective at whatever they're supposed to do. Or perhaps they're doing the shit out of it and I just can't notice, which (since I'm paying for it) isn't right either.

Sounds like a good reason to be on the lookout for discounted XD3's in the coming months. =)

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I've had both XD and XD3. If they are going to "redesign" then do it. The XD3 was little more than minor tweaks, as this one appears as well. It would be kind of nice for Arai to go beyond the BGN approach and fix some of the flaws that they seem content on ignoring.

Things such as:
- crap shield mount
- distorted vision
- noisy visor
- overly complex and fragile ducts

By the way, I LOVE my XD3 and XD before it. Don't get me wrong. One of the few helmets that I can where for 14hrs straight and it feels like I just put it on. It's just frustrating that for the money, they don't do more when the model evolves.
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