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Old 11-19-2011, 02:57 PM   #46
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Bought the XD3 and like it overall but found the distortion, shrieking visor and fogging disappointing for such an expensive helmet.
I've never noticed any distortion in the shield. If you adjust the visor to the right angle, it won't vibrate. I try to aim it straight/level into the wind. It does fog like London in winter, but the Pinlock solves that admirably.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:17 AM   #47
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I've never noticed any distortion in the shield.
Distortion is right at the nose, where the sharpest curve is on the shield. It really bothered me for the first while but I've since gotten over it (although it is still there). I've never seen one without the distortion, if you have one that isn't keep it forever.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:42 AM   #48
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Yeti, I think distortion affects some people more than others. I have very acute vision and my career entailed utilizing high end optics so less than excellent is pretty noticeable for me.

Most folks say it's only in the lower part and affects the instruments, but that part of the shield is also the part used in slow tricky riding where you need to dab or get a foot down or pick a line in rough rocks and it's pretty disconcerting as you're unsure exactly where you are. Sometimes you can't let go of the bars to flip it open quickly.

The visor whistles pretty good from 60 up, so I have to tilt my head at an odd angle to stop it and on long rides it gets annoying. At least it gives me something to do on long slab stretches

Not slamming Arai, just disappointed that for such money they can't correct some fundamental issues. My $600 XD3 suffers from the same issues a $130 Joe Rocket lid did.
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:39 AM   #49
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At the San Mateo bike show yesterday I got a chance to try on the new xd4. From what the rep said:

Redesigned shell (looked the same to me)
Enlarged top vents
Better air flow out the back to reduce buffeting
Cheek pads that you can adjust with some kind of peel away system
Visor vents
Something with shield venting and chin cover.

The fit was identical to the xd/xd3. The solid white was pearlescent, reminiscent of shoei in the 80s although I'm told there will be a "fridge white". The black/white multi color was gorgeous and very conspicuous.

Small improvements IMHO but going the right way. I wish it was lighter and had a quick detach visor system, but it's still the best dualie in my book.
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:05 PM   #50
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At the San Mateo bike show yesterday I got a chance to try on the new xd4. From what the rep said:
The fit was identical to the xd/xd3. k.
I don’t believe the XD and the XD3 have the same fit. So, XD owners beware.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:35 PM   #51
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I don’t believe the XD and the XD3 have the same fit. So, XD owners beware.
Sure not significant difference, at least in my experience. My XD and now XD3 (both medium) are virtually identical in fit. If anything the XD3 "might" be slightly snugger, but we're talking maybe .5 - 1mm.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:43 PM   #52
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I don’t believe the XD and the XD3 have the same fit. So, XD owners beware.
Yep. My XD was an extra large and my XD3 is a large.

The shells are different shapes.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:08 PM   #53
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Sure not significant difference, at least in my experience. My XD and now XD3 (both medium) are virtually identical in fit. If anything the XD3 "might" be slightly snugger, but we're talking maybe .5 - 1mm.
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Yep. My XD was an extra large and my XD3 is a large.

The shells are different shapes.
The mediums must be different than the XL/-L.

I found them to be the same fit,like JTT did as well.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:19 PM   #54
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I just bought a new XD3 and I think I hate it. The bill/peak/visor vibrates so much behind the windscreen on my Triumph Tiger 800XC and causes such a loud drumming in the helmet, even with earplugs, that I doubt I could stand it for an hour. If I reach up and touch the edge of the visor, it gets much quieter, but I can't ride like that. Standing up on the pegs helps even more, but I think the constabulary will have an opinion about that. Shucks.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:26 PM   #55
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wanna sell it then?

I'm debating picking up a closeout xd3 or waiting for an xd4. Decisions, decisions...
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:03 PM   #56
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Gizmo... search for threads on the XD3 visor issue. I put black wheel weights on mine and that helped. I also added an aluminum bar bent to fit just inside the lip on the lower side and between those 2 I have not more issues. Oh... I did change shields which made it final. Very nice now with much less noise and no vibrations. Yeah, it was a pain but it works now. For fogging I use No fog stuff and that works for a couple of rides before wearing off. It's that new stuff but can't remember the brand... he was giving some away on ADV for a bit. It works and I have gotten rid of my pin lock on another helmet becasue the defogger works so well. I wonder if the new cheek pads from the 4 will fit the 3? I'll have to look at some to see.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:34 AM   #57
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Gizmo... search for threads on the XD3 visor issue. I put black wheel weights on mine and that helped. I also added an aluminum bar bent to fit just inside the lip on the lower side and between those 2 I have not more issues..

So a little custom work, or maybe a xd4 visor and a close out XD3 still sounds like a better deal


....at least I hope so since mine will be here tomorrow


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Old 11-21-2011, 08:39 AM   #58
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I just bought a new XD3 and I think I hate it. The bill/peak/visor vibrates so much behind the windscreen on my Triumph Tiger 800XC and causes such a loud drumming in the helmet, even with earplugs, that I doubt I could stand it for an hour. If I reach up and touch the edge of the visor, it gets much quieter, but I can't ride like that. Standing up on the pegs helps even more, but I think the constabulary will have an opinion about that. Shucks.
Try adjusting the angle of the visor up and down. If I tilt mine so that it's pointing pretty much straight into the wind when I'm looking ahead, it doesn't vibrate.

That's why I got rid of my Shoei Hornet. I could adjust the angle of the visor and it vibrated too much.
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:55 AM   #59
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I don’t believe the XD and the XD3 have the same fit. So, XD owners beware.
Should have been more clear, the fit comparison is just my own personal observation, the rep didn't say anything about how the XD/XC3/XD4 compare on fit. I have an original XD and was comparing the XD4 fit to mine, which seem identical (minus cheek pads). When I tried on an XD3 it seemed to fits similarly.


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Old 11-21-2011, 11:43 AM   #60
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Oh... I did change shields which made it final. Very nice now with much less noise and no vibrations. Yeah, it was a pain but it works now.
Change shields? To what? (we are talking about the clear part you look through rights?) Very interested in what you did
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