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Old 11-15-2011, 06:29 PM   #1
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Dragstrip times for scooters

I'm searching for real dragstrip numbers for any scooter, 150 or larger. Surely someone, besides me, has done this. What I really want is the 1/8 and 1/4 mile ET's. All my times are for 1/8 mile only. I'm trying to come up with an approximent formula that will give me 1/4 mile et's if only 1/8 times are available. Adding 60% to 1/8 times will get close for 1/4 times. This works for cars and some motorcycles. But since scooters are so slow off the line the 60% are a little off. Probably needs to be more like 57-58%. If someone happens to post #'s for a B650 please indicate what mode you did it in. Thanks in advance for any info that showes up here.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:45 AM   #2
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I'd too like to know the 1/4 mile for a typical 150 cc Scooter and at what speed. Also would like to know 0-60 times for 150 Scooters and such.
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:10 PM   #3
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June 21st would be the best time to test quarter mile times.


















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Old 11-25-2011, 05:33 PM   #4
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_____________ 0-60 1/4mi.ET 1/4mi. speed

Aprilia Mana 850 5.3 13.5 98

Honda DN-01 7.4 15.4 87

Kymco Venox 250 11.8 18 74

Piaggio MP3 500 9.2 16.7 79

Burgman 650 7 15.2 84

Yamaha Tmax 9.2 16.7 83

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Old 11-26-2011, 08:53 PM   #5
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I've often asked what they get too, but have always been met with a blank look. Some people don't see the need for accel figures for scoots, and that's fine, but I use the specs to give me some idea of real-world performance, so I know where you're coming from.

Here's some times I've seen at our track (after all us bike guys talked the "powers-that-be" into letting them run)........
Std Beo500 ..... Mid-15s
Mod Be0500 (pipe, pod filter, J.Costa) ..... mid-14s
Burg650 ..... mid-hi 14s
Std Tmax ..... lo-16s
Mod Tmax (J.Costa, pipe) ..... lo-15s
Vespa GTS250 ..... lo-17s

.....and just for stamps, tuned-up Lambretta 220cc ..... flat 14s!

I think the 60% rule would be close for a scoot, but for the smaller engined ones, I think higher not lower, maybe 65%? Reason being a scoot has no top-end, and adds little speed over the last 200m, unlike a car or bike.

Scoots are different to bikes too, in that rider ability on the 1/4 makes a huge difference with bikes, but probably very little on a scoot. There isn't the balancing act on a scoot between clutch-slipping/wheelie/tyre spin. An experienced dragracer can get 60ft times in the mid1.6s-mid1.7s (I mean REALLY standard, none of this lowered/strapped stuff!) on a sportsbike, whereas even experienced riders but no drag skills will be battling generally to get the 60ft times netter than mid-1.9s. 3/10 on the line is worth 5/10 at the end of the 1/4, but with scoots, generally what you see done anyone can repeat themselves.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:27 PM   #6
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Ok, help me out here, what's going on here?
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:50 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=btcn;17380324]I'd too like to know the 1/4 mile for a typical 150 cc Scooter and at what speed. Also would like to know 0-60 times for 150 Scooters and such.[/QUOTE

A few years ago I had a very nice '87 150 Elite. I never got the chance to try it at the dragstrip, but a friend had an identical one and his son did take it out. That kid weighed about 60# less than me. His best of only 2-3 runs was 13.408 sec. @ 47.884 MPH in the 1/8th mile. 60 ft. time was 2.834 sec. ]
In Feb. '06 Cycle World tested both the Vespa 150LX and the Tank Urban 150, the Chinese scooter that's been sold here under about 100 differant names. The Vespa did 21.81 sec @ 55.99 mph in the quarter and 33.4 sec. 0-60. Top speed was 66mph. The Tank did 21.70 sec @ 54.55 MPH and had a top speed of 58 MPH, hence, no 0-60 time.
Something else of interest, I've had personal experiance with 7 differant scooters at the strip. All of them except one did the first 60 FT. in 2.8 something seconds. This includes the 150 Elite I mentioned all the way to an Atlantic 500 and Kymco 500. The one exception was an ' 87 Elite 250. It was the hotrod of the bunch, going 2.585 sec. in 60FT.
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:04 PM   #8
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[QUOTE=Yellow Jacket;17392605]
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I'd too like to know the 1/4 mile for a typical 150 cc Scooter and at what speed. Also would like to know 0-60 times for 150 Scooters and such.[/QUOTE

A few years ago I had a very nice '87 150 Elite. I never got the chance to try it at the dragstrip, but a friend had an identical one and his son did take it out. That kid weighed about 60# less than me. His best of only 2-3 runs was 13.408 sec. @ 47.884 MPH in the 1/8th mile. 60 ft. time was 2.834 sec. ]
In Feb. '06 Cycle World tested both the Vespa 150LX and the Tank Urban 150, the Chinese scooter that's been sold here under about 100 differant names. The Vespa did 21.81 sec @ 55.99 mph in the quarter and 33.4 sec. 0-60. Top speed was 66mph. The Tank did 21.70 sec @ 54.55 MPH and had a top speed of 58 MPH, hence, no 0-60 time.
Something else of interest, I've had personal experiance with 7 differant scooters at the strip. All of them except one did the first 60 FT. in 2.8 something seconds. This includes the 150 Elite I mentioned all the way to an Atlantic 500 and Kymco 500. The one exception was an ' 87 Elite 250. It was the hotrod of the bunch, going 2.585 sec. in 60FT.
Interesting thread. An above average male high school athlete should be able to run 60 feet in 2.7 seconds or better. A 'top shelf" athlete is in the 2.5 second range. Females are only a tenth or so slower.

So, most of these scooters can get beat across a four lane intersection by a kid running. My dad has a Yamaha scooter. He loves it. And my brothers and I would race 50 cc scooters on dirt roads. More fun than just about anything.

As to June 21, it's the longest day of the year. Thus...you have a very long 'all day' to see how long they take.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:19 AM   #9
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Actually, in High School I was a bit of an athlete too, did the 100m sprint in 11.8secs.
Then I turned 18, got my license, and my 307 Monaro did it in about 1/2 that. That may explain the fitness loss I spose....
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:49 AM   #10
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Ok, help me out here, what's going on here?


Longest day of the year, this way you make the run in daylight.



I have had 2 scoots, so I am JK.

250 Elite and Silverwing.

Wish I still had the Elite.

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Old 01-04-2012, 08:25 AM   #11
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Bump, still looking for numbers on this.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:48 AM   #12
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Resurrecting this one, because I'd like to know what a Silverwing does in the 1/8 mile.

Here are my contribuitions, from hitting the scooter drags at Brown County Dragway, an 1/8 mile track.

Honda PCX 150 - 13.4 to 13.6 seconds

Kymco Yager - low 13s (can't remember exactly what it ran)

Genuine Buddy 125 - in the 14.3 to 14.4 range. This is my bike, and not completely stock. Its got an NCY transmission kit, 11g (I think) Dr Pulley sliders, and a Prima pipe. I weigh in around 175. I suspect the bike would be a tiny bit faster on the street, since there is about 330' of VHT on the track upping the friction.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:56 PM   #13
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Thanks for the post ohiotj. I've been looking at the Brown Co scooter drags on line. Wish I was a little closer, I'd like to check it out in person. Was the PCX stock? Can you give me the 60' times on the PCX? A few years ago a friend's son ran a '87 Elite 150, got 13.408 @ 47.884. Rider was a lightweight, maybe 145#. Never did run my own Elite 150. Ran my Kymco GTi 300 a couple weeks ago. 11.358 @ 60.008. Just got done lightening the rollers in it, will take it up to my top secret test sight tomorrow.
Getting back to Brown Co., do they have any Maxi scoots show up? I would like to see #'s on anything.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:29 PM   #14
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Why do you need this info?

Check out nasra might have some info
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Old 09-14-2013, 05:24 AM   #15
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