UK based pick up NOOB, info please. - Page 3

Doc.Snyder · 11-21-2011, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toastmuncher

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-NAV...item35b18d0807

the wife is not happy with the seating in a kingcab, the back seats dont look good, our lad may end up being a 7 footer. This double, 4 door, cab above results in a 4'6 bed, what use is that, I dont ride a monkey by FFS. If the japs built a single cab with three seats.

The 4door Crew Cab is also available with the long bed... on Nissan Frontiers / Navaras

Doc.Snyder · 11-21-2011, 07:46 AM

The defender 130 bed looks similar to the 110 hcpu bed, but the 110 hcpu is longer (almost 2m).
and you have 3 seats in a row on the 110...

toastmuncher · 06-01-2012, 01:44 AM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180896470317

Just looking at this, dont suppose anyone knows how long the bed is? The guy is away and cannot measure it. I have tried google etc but cannot find the info.

W0X0F · 06-01-2012, 05:29 AM

Specs from Vehix.com: If you can get the VIN go here and it will give you the build sheet.

HTH

1997 Chevrolet S-10 Reg Cab 108.3" WB

Summary
Vehicle Name: Chevrolet S-10
Body Style: Reg Cab 6' Fleetside
Body Code: E63
Brakes
Brake Type: Power
Brake ABS System: 4-Wheel
Disc - Front (Yes or No): Yes
Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in): 10.5 x 1.03
Drum - Rear (Yes or No): Yes
Rear Drum Diam x Width (in): 9.5 x 2.0
Cargo Area Dimensions
Cargo Box Length @ Floor (in): 72.8
Cargo Box Width @ Top, Rear (in): 54.6
Cargo Box Width @ Floor (in): 54.9
Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in): 40.3
Cargo Box (Area) Height (in): 17.1
Tailgate Width (in): 54.9
Cargo Volume (ft³): 39.4
Cooling System
Total Cooling System Capacity (qts): 11.5
Electrical
Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary): 525
Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps): 100
Maximum Alternator Watts: 1200
Engine
Engine Order Code: LN2
Engine Type: Gas L4
Displacement: 2.2L/133
Fuel System: SFI
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM: 118 @ 5200
SAE Net Torque @ RPM: 130 @ 2800
Exterior Dimensions
Wheelbase (in): 108.3
Length, Overall w/o rear bumper (in): 189.0
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in): 67.9
Height, Overall (in): 63.2
Overhang, Front (in): 34.8
Overhang, Rear w/o bumper (in): 46.0
Front Bumper to Back of Cab (in): 105.6
Cab to Axle (in): 37.4
Ground to Top of Load Floor (in): 29.0
Ground Clearance, Front (in): 9.1
Ground Clearance, Rear (in): 7.2
Frame
Frame Type: Ladder
Fuel Tank
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal): 19
Fuel Tank Location: Inboard LH Frame
Interior Dimensions
Passenger Capacity: 3
Front Head Room (in): 39.5
Front Leg Room (in): 42.4
Front Shoulder Room (in): 57.2
Front Hip Room (in): 52.0
Mileage
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG): 23
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG): 30
Steering
Steering Type: Power
Steering Ratio (:1), On Center: 15
Steering Ratio (:1), At Lock: 13
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft): 36.9
Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft): 38.9
Suspension
Suspension Type - Front: Indep Coil Spring
Suspension Type - Rear: 2-Stage Multi-Leaf
Spring Capacity - Front (lbs): 2500
Spring Capacity - Rear (lbs): 2300
Axle Type - Rear: Semi-Floating
Axle Capacity - Front (lbs): 2500
Axle Capacity - Rear (lbs): 2900
Axle Ratio (:1) - Rear: 3.73
Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm): 32
Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm): 32
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in): 0.98
Tires
Front Tire Order Code: QCE
Rear Tire Order Code: QCE
Front Tire Size: P205/75R15
Rear Tire Size: P205/75R15
Spare Tire Size: T155/90D16
Front Tire Capacity (lbs): 1452
Rear Tire Capacity (lbs): 1452
Spare Tire Capacity (lbs): 1453
Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Front: 768
Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Rear: 768
Trailering
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 200
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 750
Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000
Transmission
Drivetrain: Rear Wheel Drive
Trans Order Code: MW2
Trans Type: 5
Trans Description Cont.: Manual w/OD
First Gear Ratio (:1): 3.94
Second Gear Ratio (:1): 2.37
Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.49
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1): 1.00
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.83
Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.65
Clutch Size (in): 9.13
Weight Information
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front (lbs): 2500
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear (lbs): 2300
Curb Weight - Front (lbs): 1735
Curb Weight - Rear (lbs): 1294
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap (lbs): 4200
Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs): 5000
Wheels
Front Wheel Size (in): 15 x 7
Rear Wheel Size (in): 15 x 7
Spare Wheel Size (in): 16 x 4
Front Wheel Material: Steel
Rear Wheel Material: Steel
Spare Wheel Material: Steel

seriousracer · 06-01-2012, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toastmuncher

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180896470317

Just looking at this, dont suppose anyone knows how long the bed is? The guy is away and cannot measure it. I have tried google etc but cannot find the info.

......

KeithinSC · 06-01-2012, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toastmuncher

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180896470317

Just looking at this, dont suppose anyone knows how long the bed is? The guy is away and cannot measure it. I have tried google etc but cannot find the info.

Definitely a shortbed. The stepside S10 was only a shortbed. Narrower also than a regular bed. I had a fleetside shortbed, about useless for a bike, well maybe a Scwhinn!
If you see an extended cab S10, that will also be a shortbed. Longbeds only available with a regular cab.

What about a Hilux? Cabs too small?

toastmuncher · 06-01-2012, 01:43 PM

Very quick helpfull info, thanks all. He says its 72'' by 40 within the wheelarches. a squeeze for two big bikes I guess, seems pretty frugal, by yank standards.

KeithinSC · 06-01-2012, 07:24 PM

You could get two MX bikes in that S10, but never two Guzzis. Unless you dont mind a few dents!

Other than the better gas mileage, I'd avoid the S10. ( I had one and loved it). I could never haul a bike in it, I'd borrow a trailer instead. CX500, Shadow 750 and a slew of others, the bed was just too short. If a trailer is not an option, a fullsize with a long bed would be my choice. The Dodge you showed would work fine, as would the Chevy or the Ford.
Not knowing how common repair parts are in your part of the world (brake pads, shock absorbers/dampers, etc) you might want to keep that in mind when you pick a brand. I can go into any auto parts store and get a brake disc for my Chevy off the shelf, but I'd have some trouble getting one for a Jensen Interceptor

Look each one over and see if it was maintained well. Any of the choices you mentioned have had examples run 300000+ miles, and many have died before 50,000. All depends on the driver and maintenance the truck had.

vtwin · 06-02-2012, 07:41 AM

Don't supposed you've thought of getting a Transit Van, they made 1 million variations throughout the years.

toastmuncher · 06-02-2012, 08:30 AM

The thought has crossed my mind. I am afraid I would be categorised as a gypsy should I get one of THOSE, and they get a pretty bad press over here!! A pickup also has a VERY high bed which will then need a VERY long ramp.

I fancy something different and a yank pickup has only been off the list due to fuel costs here in blighty. Jap stuff has either insufficient seating or dumpy beds. This C10 is really cool.

vtwin · 06-02-2012, 08:40 AM

Jeremy doesn't think too highly of american trucks.

McB · 06-02-2012, 09:43 AM

Glad you didn't go for the Dodge V-6. I had a '98 that got 11 mpg on a good day and wouldn't pull a fart up a molehill.

toastmuncher · 06-03-2012, 09:20 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHEVROLET-...item19d0bd8d72

mark883 · 06-03-2012, 10:18 AM

4wd are always more thirsty, even if driven in 2wd.

Doesn't say what size engine, but the small block Chevys are bullet-proof. Driven nicely, I bet you might be able to see close to 20mpg (your gallons) from that truck- if it doesn't have a low geared rear-end, and it has the smaller V8.

If the trans is the ZF 5 speed stick, that could be expensive if it blows up. I know, because I killed two or three behind a 6.5L diesel - but pulling a 37 foot trailer. So light duty work may be Ok. That is a short bed (6 footer) as well. Many a bike has been hauled with the rear wheel on a tailgate before, however. Shorter bed might be better for your type of streets.

200k miles can be routinely put on this era of Chevy pickup trucks, with proper maintenance.

toastmuncher · 06-03-2012, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark883

4wd are always more thirsty, even if driven in 2wd.

Doesn't say what size engine, but the small block Chevys are bullet-proof. Driven nicely, I bet you might be able to see close to 20mpg (your gallons) from that truck- if it doesn't have a low geared rear-end, and it has the smaller V8.

If the trans is the ZF 5 speed stick, that could be expensive if it blows up. I know, because I killed two or three behind a 6.5L diesel - but pulling a 37 foot trailer. So light duty work may be Ok. That is a short bed (6 footer) as well. Many a bike has been hauled with the rear wheel on a tailgate before, however. Shorter bed might be better for your type of streets.

200k miles can be routinely put on this era of Chevy pickup trucks, with proper maintenance.

It says 5000cc. I am not sure what that equates to in cubic inches, I guess 5l is about 290CU. 20 IS NOT ENOUGH, and there I was about to HIT THE BUTTON. I really like the chevrolet 4 pot I posted but the aucton has a while to run.

11-21-2011, 07:46 AM	#32
Doc.Snyder Beastly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Grapevine, TX / Grosserlach, GER Oddometer: 2,011	The defender 130 bed looks similar to the 110 hcpu bed, but the 110 hcpu is longer (almost 2m). and you have 3 seats in a row on the 110... __________________ Never stop exploring

06-01-2012, 01:44 AM	#33
toastmuncher ^OP I be new round here! Ello Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Chepstow, South Wales, UK Oddometer: 617	Old thread revival. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180896470317 Just looking at this, dont suppose anyone knows how long the bed is? The guy is away and cannot measure it. I have tried google etc but cannot find the info. __________________ Guzzi 1100 callifornia stone 2003 Guzzi 1100 california hedingham hack 1994 Ducati GT1000 2006 Suzuki GN250 hack, 'the tiddler' Matchless g3ls 350 1954 and AJS Model 14 250 1961. IBA 40526

06-01-2012, 01:43 PM	#37
toastmuncher ^OP I be new round here! Ello Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Chepstow, South Wales, UK Oddometer: 617	Very quick helpfull info, thanks all. He says its 72'' by 40 within the wheelarches. a squeeze for two big bikes I guess, seems pretty frugal, by yank standards. __________________ Guzzi 1100 callifornia stone 2003 Guzzi 1100 california hedingham hack 1994 Ducati GT1000 2006 Suzuki GN250 hack, 'the tiddler' Matchless g3ls 350 1954 and AJS Model 14 250 1961. IBA 40526

06-02-2012, 07:41 AM	#39
vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon Joined: Jan 2005 Location: NorCal Oddometer: 6,103	Don't supposed you've thought of getting a Transit Van, they made 1 million variations throughout the years. __________________ I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure. *"You only have too much fuel if you're on fire"* *unknown*

06-02-2012, 08:30 AM	#40
toastmuncher ^OP I be new round here! Ello Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Chepstow, South Wales, UK Oddometer: 617	The thought has crossed my mind. I am afraid I would be categorised as a gypsy should I get one of THOSE, and they get a pretty bad press over here!! A pickup also has a VERY high bed which will then need a VERY long ramp. I fancy something different and a yank pickup has only been off the list due to fuel costs here in blighty. Jap stuff has either insufficient seating or dumpy beds. This C10 is really cool. __________________ Guzzi 1100 callifornia stone 2003 Guzzi 1100 california hedingham hack 1994 Ducati GT1000 2006 Suzuki GN250 hack, 'the tiddler' Matchless g3ls 350 1954 and AJS Model 14 250 1961. IBA 40526

06-01-2012, 05:29 AM	#34
W0X0F Adventurer Joined: Jul 2009 Location: Baker, FL Oddometer: 35	Specs from Vehix.com: If you can get the VIN go here and it will give you the build sheet. HTH 1997 Chevrolet S-10 Reg Cab 108.3" WB Summary Vehicle Name: Chevrolet S-10 Body Style: Reg Cab 6' Fleetside Body Code: E63 Brakes Brake Type: Power Brake ABS System: 4-Wheel Disc - Front (Yes or No): Yes Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in): 10.5 x 1.03 Drum - Rear (Yes or No): Yes Rear Drum Diam x Width (in): 9.5 x 2.0 Cargo Area Dimensions Cargo Box Length @ Floor (in): 72.8 Cargo Box Width @ Top, Rear (in): 54.6 Cargo Box Width @ Floor (in): 54.9 Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in): 40.3 Cargo Box (Area) Height (in): 17.1 Tailgate Width (in): 54.9 Cargo Volume (ft³): 39.4 Cooling System Total Cooling System Capacity (qts): 11.5 Electrical Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary): 525 Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps): 100 Maximum Alternator Watts: 1200 Engine Engine Order Code: LN2 Engine Type: Gas L4 Displacement: 2.2L/133 Fuel System: SFI SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM: 118 @ 5200 SAE Net Torque @ RPM: 130 @ 2800 Exterior Dimensions Wheelbase (in): 108.3 Length, Overall w/o rear bumper (in): 189.0 Width, Max w/o mirrors (in): 67.9 Height, Overall (in): 63.2 Overhang, Front (in): 34.8 Overhang, Rear w/o bumper (in): 46.0 Front Bumper to Back of Cab (in): 105.6 Cab to Axle (in): 37.4 Ground to Top of Load Floor (in): 29.0 Ground Clearance, Front (in): 9.1 Ground Clearance, Rear (in): 7.2 Frame Frame Type: Ladder Fuel Tank Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal): 19 Fuel Tank Location: Inboard LH Frame Interior Dimensions Passenger Capacity: 3 Front Head Room (in): 39.5 Front Leg Room (in): 42.4 Front Shoulder Room (in): 57.2 Front Hip Room (in): 52.0 Mileage EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG): 23 EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG): 30 Steering Steering Type: Power Steering Ratio (:1), On Center: 15 Steering Ratio (:1), At Lock: 13 Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft): 36.9 Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft): 38.9 Suspension Suspension Type - Front: Indep Coil Spring Suspension Type - Rear: 2-Stage Multi-Leaf Spring Capacity - Front (lbs): 2500 Spring Capacity - Rear (lbs): 2300 Axle Type - Rear: Semi-Floating Axle Capacity - Front (lbs): 2500 Axle Capacity - Rear (lbs): 2900 Axle Ratio (:1) - Rear: 3.73 Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm): 32 Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm): 32 Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in): 0.98 Tires Front Tire Order Code: QCE Rear Tire Order Code: QCE Front Tire Size: P205/75R15 Rear Tire Size: P205/75R15 Spare Tire Size: T155/90D16 Front Tire Capacity (lbs): 1452 Rear Tire Capacity (lbs): 1452 Spare Tire Capacity (lbs): 1453 Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Front: 768 Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Rear: 768 Trailering Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000 Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 200 Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000 Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 750 Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000 Transmission Drivetrain: Rear Wheel Drive Trans Order Code: MW2 Trans Type: 5 Trans Description Cont.: Manual w/OD First Gear Ratio (:1): 3.94 Second Gear Ratio (:1): 2.37 Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.49 Fourth Gear Ratio (:1): 1.00 Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.83 Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.65 Clutch Size (in): 9.13 Weight Information Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front (lbs): 2500 Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear (lbs): 2300 Curb Weight - Front (lbs): 1735 Curb Weight - Rear (lbs): 1294 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap (lbs): 4200 Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs): 5000 Wheels Front Wheel Size (in): 15 x 7 Rear Wheel Size (in): 15 x 7 Spare Wheel Size (in): 16 x 4 Front Wheel Material: Steel Rear Wheel Material: Steel Spare Wheel Material: Steel

06-01-2012, 07:24 PM	#38
KeithinSC Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Sandhills of SC Oddometer: 666	You could get two MX bikes in that S10, but never two Guzzis. Unless you dont mind a few dents! Other than the better gas mileage, I'd avoid the S10. ( I had one and loved it). I could never haul a bike in it, I'd borrow a trailer instead. CX500, Shadow 750 and a slew of others, the bed was just too short. If a trailer is not an option, a fullsize with a long bed would be my choice. The Dodge you showed would work fine, as would the Chevy or the Ford. Not knowing how common repair parts are in your part of the world (brake pads, shock absorbers/dampers, etc) you might want to keep that in mind when you pick a brand. I can go into any auto parts store and get a brake disc for my Chevy off the shelf, but I'd have some trouble getting one for a Jensen Interceptor Look each one over and see if it was maintained well. Any of the choices you mentioned have had examples run 300000+ miles, and many have died before 50,000. All depends on the driver and maintenance the truck had.

06-02-2012, 08:40 AM	#41
vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon Joined: Jan 2005 Location: NorCal Oddometer: 6,103	Jeremy doesn't think too highly of american trucks. __________________ I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure. *"You only have too much fuel if you're on fire"* *unknown*

06-02-2012, 09:43 AM	#42
McB Joe 40 ouncer Joined: Apr 2005 Location: North Slope of the Flint Hills Oddometer: 15,223	Glad you didn't go for the Dodge V-6. I had a '98 that got 11 mpg on a good day and wouldn't pull a fart up a molehill.

06-03-2012, 09:20 AM	#43
toastmuncher ^OP I be new round here! Ello Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Chepstow, South Wales, UK Oddometer: 617	z71? thirsty? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHEVROLET-...item19d0bd8d72 __________________ Guzzi 1100 callifornia stone 2003 Guzzi 1100 california hedingham hack 1994 Ducati GT1000 2006 Suzuki GN250 hack, 'the tiddler' Matchless g3ls 350 1954 and AJS Model 14 250 1961. IBA 40526

06-03-2012, 10:18 AM	#44
mark883 Holding up Michoagán Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Buckeyeland Oddometer: 1,387	4wd are always more thirsty, even if driven in 2wd. Doesn't say what size engine, but the small block Chevys are bullet-proof. Driven nicely, I bet you might be able to see close to 20mpg (your gallons) from that truck- if it doesn't have a low geared rear-end, and it has the smaller V8. If the trans is the ZF 5 speed stick, that could be expensive if it blows up. I know, because I killed two or three behind a 6.5L diesel - but pulling a 37 foot trailer. So light duty work may be Ok. That is a short bed (6 footer) as well. Many a bike has been hauled with the rear wheel on a tailgate before, however. Shorter bed might be better for your type of streets. 200k miles can be routinely put on this era of Chevy pickup trucks, with proper maintenance.

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