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Old 11-30-2011, 04:39 PM   #256
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I've never noticed a pannier rack like this one yet. Anyone have one? Worth it? I'm assuming not necessarily since a HT side rack can be had from 200 to 270 (depending on model).
http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/2727667496.html
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:54 PM   #257
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Thank you kindly, all you guys who gave me advice regarding gearing ratios. This has been a huge help, and more importantly the only help I've been able to get. My resources are very limited, being a young guy and a noob with few riding buddies...and a tight budget. I realize that responding to questions like mine can be cumbersome for you folks who have been here a long time, but I want to reiterate my appreciation of this favor--I don't take it for granted. Cheers
.. just to add to the confusion .. if you are going more for "adventure" riding/touring you might want to consider going with a 16 front and 39 rear ..

.. just so it's not "my opinion" .. from one pretty reliable source: "My KLR is now geared up 16-39 (from stock 15-43 ) 60 mph is now 3200 rpm. (was 4,000 rpm)" .. that particular guy is riding with a pretty radical fairing, but the guy that set him up knows what he is doing ..

If you want to play around with gear sizes/ratios you can punch up your own numbers here and see what the changes do for differing size gear combinations ..

http://woodsware.aciwebs.com/gears/gears.asp

.. find the KLR 650 in the drop menu and add your own front and rear gear sizes and you'll see where it puts you .. pretty good site .. you can even check how tire size changes affect your ride too ..

.. hope this answers more questions rather than causes you any grief ..
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:16 PM   #258
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I've never noticed a pannier rack like this one yet. Anyone have one? Worth it? I'm assuming not necessarily since a HT side rack can be had from 200 to 270 (depending on model).
http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/2727667496.html
The side bracing looks like small-diameter rod. Tube is better in many ways. Having just had a wonderful experience bolting on some HT farkles, I can tell you, they can't be beat. Their instruction pages are a bit sketchy, but the stuff fits and is completely legit.

The HT OSR system is now on sale for under a hundred. I'm a big fan of the soft stuff, and for $98, you simply can't go wrong. It's grape flavor. . .
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:23 PM   #259
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.. from one pretty reliable source: "My KLR is now geared up 16-39 (from stock 15-43 ) 60 mph is now 3200 rpm. (was 4,000 rpm)" ..
Stock gearing final drive ratio (43/15) is 2.87; his setup (39/16) gives 2.44; 2.44/2.87 X 4000 rpm = 3400 rpm; pretty close.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:46 PM   #260
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Rather weird question here. Just spent some time with Bro-Bro, who uses my shop to manufacture custom guitar and harmonica amps. He's an early iron-head, who's run Yamaha XS 650s for about thirty years. Today, he went off on carb combos on the XS. I get lost within five minutes of his talk, but one thing piqued my interest. He spoke of putting a smaller, single carb on an XS twin with an appropriate two-to-one manifold. Reportedly, the rig would not pass 85 mph, but was putting out massive low end and rode at about 65 mpg. Is this a possibility for the KLR? Most of us want more upper end, but could the torques and the mileage be achieved through carburation rather than gearing?
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:17 PM   #261
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Ok, question for the KLR minds.
I just got back from the Barstow to Vegas ride where my '00 KLR gave about about 3/4 of the way through. I just pulled the head today and all 4 valves are bent from the piston making contact with them. (Ill get some pics soon). Anyway, what the heck would cause that to happen. The bike has relatively low miles, about 8,300 and I had just checked the valve clearances within the last 1k miles. Ideas?
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:33 PM   #262
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Ok, question for the KLR minds.
I just got back from the Barstow to Vegas ride where my '00 KLR gave about about 3/4 of the way through. I just pulled the head today and all 4 valves are bent from the piston making contact with them. (Ill get some pics soon). Anyway, what the heck would cause that to happen. The bike has relatively low miles, about 8,300 and I had just checked the valve clearances within the last 1k miles. Ideas?
How hard were you twisting it over those long, barren flats? I've been there, and know it's a place where you can go all-out. Even in the current config, the KLR's an old-school single, and really doesn't like to ride at much over 5-6k rpm for extended periods. You can make short forays to the red-line. but a heavy piston such as is fitted into the KLR's cast-iron bore will start to spank things in a hurry. If you want to scream to the casinos, I suggest something with at least another cylinder, or preferably another three. I've said it before, but you cannot whup piston speed, no matter how hard you hope to.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:43 PM   #263
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KLR650 Only Thread......

Some of the 15T sprocket lovers claim a 16T doesn't do much for you on the fwy but I believe it does much...the big Lincoln 460ish piston of the KLR has inertia. But 280ish less rpm with the 16T makes me feel much safer on the fwy.

The aftermarket pistons/big bores actually weigh less so I would feel a little safer revving those. But, not for a long time.

My 2004 blew from the doohickey side at 35K miles. Well maintained engine--my thinking is all the counter weights just spun the balancer shaft bearing despite Mobil 1 15-50 in the motor.

Mine is up and running with a USMC gas engine with supposedly 258 miles on it; just had to rebuild the water pump and adjust valves...the Marines scavenged some parts off it before it was sold by govt. liquidators I believe.

About to do the doohickey on it.

As far as your engine goes...take off the doohickey side case and see if anything blew there and messed up your timing chain...if still seeking cause.

Good luck on finding a new engine...if you want any R & R tips...I have them fresh in my mind
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:44 PM   #264
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Blown engine

Mine blew after lengthy fwy high speed riding though you should have been doing lower speeds/revs on dirt.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:48 PM   #265
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How hard were you twisting it over those long, barren flats? I've been there, and know it's a place where you can go all-out. Even in the current config, the KLR's an old-school single, and really doesn't like to ride at much over 5-6k rpm for extended periods. You can make short forays to the red-line. but a heavy piston such as is fitted into the KLR's cast-iron bore will start to spank things in a hurry. If you want to scream to the casinos, I suggest something with at least another cylinder, or preferably another three. I've said it before, but you cannot whup piston speed, no matter how hard you hope to.

The ride was all dirt so no highway the whole day. But to be honest, I do ride this bike hard. We were set to finish the ride around 4PM doing ALL the hard routes which means we were hauling a$$. (If you've done the ride you'd know.) Although I still don't feel like I was too hard on the motor, I didn't run over 5k for long periods.
So looks like Ill be rebuilding her. Would a 658/705 kit help to prevent this? What about larger valves and stiffer springs? Or does anyone want to to buy a heavily modded KLR with a fresh motor rebuild? haha
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:51 PM   #266
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Some of the 15T sprocket lovers claim a 16T doesn't do much for you on the fwy but I believe it does much...the big Lincoln 460ish piston of the KLR has inertia. But 280ish less rpm with the 16T makes me feel much safer on the fwy.

The aftermarket pistons/big bores actually weigh less so I would feel a little safer revving those. But, not for a long time.

My 2004 blew from the doohickey side at 35K miles. Well maintained engine--my thinking is all the counter weights just spun the balancer shaft bearing despite Mobil 1 15-50 in the motor.

Mine is up and running with a USMC gas engine with supposedly 258 miles on it; just had to rebuild the water pump and adjust valves...the Marines scavenged some parts off it before it was sold by govt. liquidators I believe.

About to do the doohickey on it.

As far as your engine goes...take off the doohickey side case and see if anything blew there and messed up your timing chain...if still seeking cause.

Good luck on finding a new engine...if you want any R & R tips...I have them fresh in my mind
Yeah, Ill be asking you for help since Ill be rebuilding it myself. Good Idea about the doohickey, Ill pull that side of the case soon. I did spin the motor around a few times and the chain looks fine so far.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:52 PM   #267
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Blown engine

it isnt the heavy piston's fault unless your rod broke...otherwise how did it touch the valves?

timing chain issue?
valve train broke?
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:55 PM   #268
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it isnt the heavy piston's fault unless your rod broke...otherwise how did it touch the valves?

timing chain issue?
valve train broke?
Besides all the bent(and now stuck open) valves, everything in the topend looks just fine?
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:41 PM   #269
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How hard were you twisting it over those long, barren flats? I've been there, and know it's a place where you can go all-out. Even in the current config, the KLR's an old-school single, and really doesn't like to ride at much over 5-6k rpm for extended periods. You can make short forays to the red-line. but a heavy piston such as is fitted into the KLR's cast-iron bore will start to spank things in a hurry. If you want to scream to the casinos, I suggest something with at least another cylinder, or preferably another three. I've said it before, but you cannot whup piston speed, no matter how hard you hope to.
I may be mistaken but I think he is talking about this:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745396

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Old 11-30-2011, 09:47 PM   #270
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I may be mistaken but I think he is talking about this:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745396

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