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Old 11-24-2011, 07:37 AM   #16
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I'd only do this if I couldn't find a SE for any price or already had a beat up looking Adv. I rode my Adv sans top body and it is still an anvil compared to the SE. The SE feels 100 lbs lighter off road. On the other hand, the stock or Safari tanked SE is a ergo pig between your knees when you try to get forward. "Somebody" is supposed to have a tank solution soonish but no info/pic leaks yet...

The Adv seating is better 2 up, no question. I think the Adv already meets your needs but no harm in stripping the nose down and trying a X2 or similar headlight, thats what I have on my SE.
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:08 PM   #17
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Ya, that's pretty cool... Wouldn't be too much work to acheive that methinks.
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Old 11-24-2011, 08:26 PM   #18
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Thats easy When do we start....
I'm not going to chop up 990 yet but I would like to find an older 950, repairable right off/cosmetic damage sort of thing. I still have the original tanks of my 05 950 so they could be re used, I did have the fairings too but I threw them in the bin by mistake when cleaning the shed out the other week.

There was a wreck in Darwin last year, perfect for a project like this but the insurance co transported it east to be auctioned off, too expensive to frieght back for my budjet.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:22 AM   #19
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I'd only do this if I couldn't find a SE for any price or already had a beat up looking Adv. I rode my Adv sans top body and it is still an anvil compared to the SE. The SE feels 100 lbs lighter off road. .
+1 on the above. I loved my Adventure S until I rode an SE. Have never regretted trading the Adv for an SE.

The ONLY thing the Adv was superior in was carrying a passenger. The SE smokes the Adv in every other category.
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:20 PM   #20
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+1 on the above. I loved my Adventure S until I rode an SE. Have never regretted trading the Adv for an SE.

The ONLY thing the Adv was superior in was carrying a passenger. The SE smokes the Adv in every other category.

I say the same! Sold the Adventure for the SE and never looked back!
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:51 PM   #21
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Its just easier to make a SE more like an Adv

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Old 11-26-2011, 04:24 PM   #22
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Its just easier to make a SE more like an Adv

I couldn't agree more...
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:26 PM   #23
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Yes, yes, the Super Enduro is king, you guys have awesome rides. You win!

BUT:

You can't simply go get one anymore. Let's keep this on topic: lightening and ruggedizing the venerable (and attainable) Adventure for the rest of us poor losers that just can't handle the Super Enduro hotness. There's a whole picture thread for you guys to show off in. (and I mean this in the friendliest possible way! I admit to sneaking a peek from time to time...)
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Old 11-27-2011, 10:59 AM   #24
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I think you will get the illusion of less weight but dropping significant lbs. isn't practical. The SE comes up pretty regularly for sale, but you gotta be ready to fly and have $ in hand. Do you have an Adv?
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:42 PM   #25
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I think you will get the illusion of less weight but dropping significant lbs. isn't practical. The SE comes up pretty regularly for sale, but you gotta be ready to fly and have $ in hand. Do you have an Adv?
Who, meee??? Why yes, yes I do! 50,000 miles strong!



I got to take a real off-road spin on a SE, and yes, yes I was VERY impressed. I kinda want one, it's ridonkulous. The rumors are true! But I still think the Adv. is a better all-around bike and I would miss the 40 lbs of stuff that is "missing" from the SE (Tanks, passenger seat, sub-frame, ABS, EFI, luggage, and rally fairings are just plain cool! Pretending to be Meoni has value too...). I can't afford two big KTMs, and I have so much $$ into the 990 I have to ride it out (oh geez, noooo! Twist my arm! ). If I were to own a second bike it would be a thumper. No way I could have enough cash-in-hand for a SE anytime soon, fun as that is to think about. I seem to be able to keep up with SE and 690 riders just fine, so I figure I'm doing okay, but I'm always interested to see how folks are making their bikes lighter/faster/better. So let's keep this thread going!
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:01 PM   #26
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Man, it sure sounds to me like you are describing the 990 Adventure as-is.

KLR killer - check
better two-up - check (better than SE)
Exploring - check (more range than SE)
Ergos - check
tougher than Tiger - check
dirt worthy - double check! (DAKAR BIKE!!! 21/18 wheels)

I have to say I agree with Patrol: Don't mess with perfection!

A 700-800cc KTM twin is still just a rumor at this point. Nothing official, no spy photos, nuttin'.


Anyhoo, good luck on your hunt! No matter how good a bike is, there are always features that could be better for the individual. Everything is a trade-off.
You may well be right but........ this bike below is more along the lines of what I'm thinking about, just without the gnarly nav tower and with the passenger pegs installed.

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......I rode my Adv sans top body and it is still an anvil compared to the SE. The SE feels 100 lbs lighter off road. On the other hand, the stock or Safari tanked SE is a ergo pig between your knees when you try to get forward. "Somebody" is supposed to have a tank solution soonish but no info/pic leaks yet...

The Adv seating is better 2 up, no question. I think the Adv already meets your needs but no harm in stripping the nose down and trying a X2 or similar headlight, thats what I have on my SE.
It seems to me that a combo of the two bikes, mostly adding a ADV subframe and seat to the SE with a larger fuel tank something like what's in the photo above would be a killer bike.

I hope an off-road/ADV 750-800 twin becomes a reality, I think that's a move in the right direction. I really don't need more than 750cc off-road and a 750 is PLENTY for on-road as well, even two up.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:10 PM   #27
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:49 AM   #28
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Or you could take an SM and make it into an SE...



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Old 05-27-2012, 10:32 AM   #29
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Or you could take an SM and make it into an SE...



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Very Very nice work! Looks great.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:47 AM   #30
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+1 on the above. I loved my Adventure S until I rode an SE. Have never regretted trading the Adv for an SE.

The ONLY thing the Adv was superior in was carrying a passenger. The SE smokes the Adv in every other category.
In addition to carrying passengers well, the ADV S does have two more inches of suspension travel and carries eight more liters of fuel than the SE. Categories I consider critical on an adventure bike.
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