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Old 05-08-2012, 08:19 PM   #601
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Thanks for sharing those videos! The sound in that second video in particular was incredible.
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So what? This isn't a fashion show.
Nope, but I want to be entertained by F1, and I much prefer to watch aesthetically pleasing cars than not.

If you go to the strippers, you don't go to watch the fat ones just because they are more willing to get their tits out, do ya?
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:23 PM   #602
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If you go to the strippers, you don't go to watch the fat ones just because they are more willing to get their tits out, do ya?
How fat?
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:51 PM   #603
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The sound in that second video in particular was incredible.
What a great, snarly sound.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:45 PM   #604
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testing the new nose at McLaren:






And a Ferrari V12, especially the wide angle, horribly atrocious to service ones, will always be the best sounding engines ever.

And expect the Scuderia to be better in Barcelona than at any other track this season, I am betting they will surprise this weekend.

And I am still waiting on the worst kept secret in F1 to be announced, Massa will be replaced by the Mexican.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:09 AM   #605
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And I am still waiting on the worst kept secret in F1 to be announced, Massa will be replaced by the Mexican.
Rumors of Webber getting that seat are goin around...
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:06 AM   #606
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These cars are the absolute cutting edge of technology on the planet for this year. Designs come and go, but this is the very best they have today. They ALL look good.

Even some of the ugly ones from the seventies are still beautiful if viewed in the technology of the day.

If one of you guys that dont like the step have a better functioning anmd looking idea, lets see it. I'm sure they'd like another car on the grid...
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:26 AM   #607
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These cars are the absolute cutting edge of technology on the planet for this year. Designs come and go, but this is the very best they have today. They ALL look good.

Even some of the ugly ones from the seventies are still beautiful if viewed in the technology of the day.

If one of you guys that dont like the step have a better functioning anmd looking idea, lets see it. I'm sure they'd like another car on the grid...
+10000

and in other news:

Alonso says Ferrari is back: LINK
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:47 PM   #608
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These cars are the absolute cutting edge of technology on the planet for this year. Designs come and go, but this is the very best they have today. They ALL look good.

Even some of the ugly ones from the seventies are still beautiful if viewed in the technology of the day.

If one of you guys that dont like the step have a better functioning anmd looking idea, lets see it. I'm sure they'd like another car on the grid...
Nonsense. Ugly is ugly, regardless of efficiency.

Despite what I posted earlier, aesthetics and function are different things.

You choose to define anything functional as being de facto beautiful.

I strongly disagree, as would anyone with taste. And the fact that I personally am not a better designer is completely irrelevant, a spurious argument.

Functional things can be ugly, and beautiful things can be without function.

For example, ugly efficiency in F1:



Ligier JS5



Brabham BT26



STP March 711



Arrows A22



Boomerang 20 Tyrrell
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:51 PM   #609
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Alonso says Ferrari is back: LINK
You have more faith than do I. I like the red team, and this season it's definitely been "horses for courses", but they have a gap of close to a full second to make up. Too much, I fear.
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You have more faith than do I. I like the red team, and this season it's definitely been "horses for courses", but they have a gap of close to a full second to make up. Too much, I fear.
ah you mistake... "Alonso" says they are back... me? I think Kimi will stand on the top step
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ah you mistake... "Alonso" says they are back... me? I think Kimi will stand on the top step
Yes, sorry, I mistook you for Dilli's earlier post. I realize no amount of apologies will suffice!
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Yes, sorry, I mistook you for Dilli's earlier post. I realize no amount of apologies will suffice!
damn near got yourself blocked....



although to be fair, I did support the eyebrow last year for "strategic" reasons.... (upset an English mate of mine)
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Interesting comments from Alonso.

It's been evident for a while that NASCAR drivers take more chances than they used to because they trust their cars to protect their lives.

I guess it never occurred to me that open-wheel racers would have the same mentality. Alonso thinks they do. He thinks today's F1 drivers show less respect to each other (i.e. drive more aggressively and dangerously) than did their forebears.

Alonso: "On top of that, there was definitely more respect then than there is now between us drivers, partly because they knew that, in those cars, they were risking their lives."

The incident that provoked this line of discussion was Rosberg's willingness to force other cars off the track in Bahrain. Yes, Prost and Senna tangled, but on very slow corners. And I still believe Schumacher didn't immediately understand how close he took Barrichello to the wall (and I think he later apologized.)

I guess I thought that despite safety advances, the obvious perils of an open cockpit and exposed wheels would make F1 drivers safety conscious. Perhaps not.
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interesting spin on it Sid

I have heard similar arguments regarding wearing a helmet: those who say no helmet is "safe" say this is true because they are aware of the risk and drive slowly. They go on to say people in full gear drive recklessly because they think their gear will save them.

I suspect the aero of the modern cars has a lot more to do with the lack of passing.....

Interesting comments though.
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Interesting comments from Alonso.

It's been evident for a while that NASCAR drivers take more chances than they used to because they trust their cars to protect their lives.

I guess it never occurred to me that open-wheel racers would have the same mentality. Alonso thinks they do. He thinks today's F1 drivers show less respect to each other (i.e. drive more aggressively and dangerously) than did their forebears.

Alonso: "On top of that, there was definitely more respect then than there is now between us drivers, partly because they knew that, in those cars, they were risking their lives."

The incident that provoked this line of discussion was Rosberg's willingness to force other cars off the track in Bahrain. Yes, Prost and Senna tangled, but on very slow corners. And I still believe Schumacher didn't immediately understand how close he took Barrichello to the wall (and I think he later apologized.)

I guess I thought that despite safety advances, the obvious perils of an open cockpit and exposed wheels would make F1 drivers safety conscious. Perhaps not.
epidemiological studies indicate this is pretty prevalent, even among those of us who aren't engaging in overly risky behavior. abs, traction control, air bags, safety restraint systems, all wheel drive; all these safety items certainly contribute to lower rates of injury and fatality but may also give drivers a false sense of security and lead to a higher level of risk acceptance.
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