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Old 10-14-2012, 04:36 AM   #1411
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I think Speed's coverage of F1 is fine...way better than the condensed and dumbed down coverage we get with the few races that are on Fox. I also like Speed's SX coverage. It'll be interesting to see what network gets F1, and if we get short/edited 2 hour shows with very little pre and post-race coverage. I'm sure it will also be dumbed down for the casual fan.

As for Speed as a whole... I don't watch it much other than F1 and SX. They rarely have anything else good on. I much prefer Velocity Channel to get my car fix. They recently started airing Fifth Gear from England and I'm loving it.
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:16 PM   #1412
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Fox's coverage is better than no coverage, and Speed's coverage is better than Fox's. I'm sure coverage on BBC is much better still, as well as other European channels. If only we could get them here ...

I get NBC Sports on my sat coverage, so for me that is not a big deal, but we'll see how they promote and cover the sport. I hope it improves over Speed, but I guess we'll see.

I really hope I still get to see Le Mans on some channel.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:53 AM   #1413
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:13 AM   #1414
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looks like Hulkenberg has signed w/ Sauber.....
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:16 AM   #1415
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So, Sebestian to Ferrari??? Will Alonso play nicely?

Hamilton admits that the season is over for Driver's Championship, and wishes the season could be forgotten? Looking forward to a fresh start... Interesting season.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:26 AM   #1416
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So, Sebestian to Ferrari??? Will Alonso play nicely?

Hamilton admits that the season is over for Driver's Championship, and wishes the season could be forgotten? Looking forward to a fresh start... Interesting season.
another year before Seb goes to Ferrari.
I heard Hamilton had a broken piece of rear suspension (hence lack of pace) then he killed Kermit, and it was all over...

Massa to be confirmed at Ferrari shortly I think
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:48 AM   #1417
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some interesting thoughts on Red Bull's possible DDRS

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Old 10-15-2012, 07:10 AM   #1418
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RIP Kermit.

Interesting that Hulkenberg is going to Sauber, along with Force India's reserve driver (according to the BBC). http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19940929 I wonder if Kobayashi will get a ride or not next year. The article speculates he'd have to bring some sponsorship money with him.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:22 AM   #1419
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after Kobash plowed into JB I think he days were / are numbered.
One flash race at Japan does not a career make.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:56 AM   #1420
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It has been a highly entertaining day for the Horse Whisperer. To see that you really need nothing at all the flutter of a butterflys wings could be more significant to change the medias ideas on any debate about Ferrari, in particular when it comes to its drivers, has been the source of great enjoyment and has kept the Horse Whisperer company on a day of reflection after the grand prix.

All that was required was for an English website to fire off the news of a presumed agreement between Vettel and the Scuderia however inexistent to unleash the fantasies both of fans and other writers on the web. At the same time, President Montezemolo was talking on a popular radio broadcast, unaware of the explosion of bytes on the internet. He again put off all discussion about who might drive alongside Fernando Alonso in 2014 after all, given that we dont yet know who will have that role in 2013 there is not much sense in talking about the long-term future.

Then, replying to a further question, he again underlined what the Ferrari philosophy is: you never put two roosters in the same henhouse. Instead Ferrari only takes on drivers who put the interests of the team above their own, citing the examples of driver pairings who have served in Red over the last 15 years and who have always gone along with that general principle. This phrase was immediately picked up by a wide range of sources, many of whom were exactly the same ones who had just written the precise opposite, as the denial of a possible partnership which remains completely hypothetical, better to stress that before someone takes advantage of the poor Horse Whisperer made up of Alonso and Vettel. Its a pity that Montezemolo had simply stated a principle, nothing more, nothing less. At Ferrari there will be room for anyone who demonstrates they have the talent to drive a scarlet car and to work in harmony both with and for the team. This is what convinces a driver and a man with the personality of Fernando Alonso that the Maranello team is the best of all and he is someone who has spent time at his fair share of top teams.

You see how you dont need anything to go from one extreme to the other? Reflect, people, reflect

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Old 10-15-2012, 07:59 AM   #1421
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Casual F1 fan here, and haven't read all two zillion pages of this thread so apologies if it's old ground...

I think I can get my head around why Hamilton is going to M-B next year--the McLaren isn't working out this year, M-B is offering a buttload of money, and Lewis suffers from a chronic maturity deficiency--but why is Vettel rumored to be going to Ferrari, especially when he's on the verge of his third straight title with Red Bull? Webber will probably be gone after next season and Vettel will be the undisputed top dog at RBR. Why the hell would he leave the best team and the best car (most of the time) to drive the problematic Ferrari alongside Alonso, who doesn't play well with others?

Edit: above post explains it. Never mind.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:32 AM   #1422
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interesting perspective on the race


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Old 10-15-2012, 09:53 AM   #1423
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hmmm this doesn't bode well

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their text: Sebastian Vettel at the South Korean F1 Grand Prix is just one of Formula One's worldwide events.

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Old 10-15-2012, 07:35 PM   #1424
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A pretty discouraging race and if I'm right, it will be a pretty discouraging, and indeed boring, ending to what had been a fascinating and unpredictable season.

If Greg's little article was right -- and there's no reason to doubt it -- Red Bull have found an undetectable and unbeatable cheat. Their front wing changes shape at speed. (Red Bull's advantage is plainly not the DDRS. Neither car used it even once in Sunday's race.)

It's undetectable because Charlie Whiting will have to devise a whole new test, which he can't possibly do before the end of the season. .And it's unbeatable because no team -- save, perhaps for McLaren -- have figured out how to weave carbon fiber to do their bidding. We all saw Ferrari's floppy attempts at a flexi wing last season. On Friday' in Korea we saw Force India's hapless imitation, their front wing doing the Ferrari tango all over the palce

And so with an unbeatable cheat, Red Bull will only lose another race this season if (a) weather intervenes, or if (b) they have a mechanical failure.

Absent those two factors, I expect a parade just like Korea and just like Japan. God, how boring.

And God, I sure hope I'm completely wrong. But with Ferrari complaining about wind tunnel problems for a second straight season (and really, just how lousy are their engineers?) it seems unlikely that the red cars will challenge. McLaren might, if they can stop breaking and they don't run out of engines (both are on their 8th and final fresh one.)

Speaking of which, what the heck was that absurd charade about at the end of the race? Vettel's crew gave the appearance of near apoplexy over a right front tire that seemed perfectly healthy and which was delivering fast lap speeds.

Since Red Bull are masters of the dark arts, I think they were trying to lure Ferrari into engine trouble. By dangling a late race carrot, I think they hoped to entice the Ferraris into stressing their engines.

Why? Because according to this site, both Alonso and Massa have used 7 of their allocated 8 engines so far this season. It would do Red Bull no harm at all to see Ferrari forced into using their final engine, or taking a grid penalty for an unscheduled engine replacement, or perhaps having to recycle previously retired engines.

I'll miss Bob Varsha, and David Hobbs I can easily tolerate. I won't miss Steve Matchett's filibusters, but he does provide great technical insight. Having watched NBC's Indycar coverage, I'm not optimistic that we'll get as good a commentary crew as we've had from Speed.
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Massa confirmed

http://www.ferrari.com/english/formu...o-in-2013.aspx
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