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Old 04-30-2011, 05:40 PM   #1
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"Other" Scramblers (even home built)

I've read through the Triumph Scrambler thread (will probably own one someday), done the google searches, read up on the classic bikes called scramblers etc... It seems to me that there could easily be a "scrambler" hidden beneath the skin of several bikes out there. I don't think everyone needs a bike that is 1500cc's (therefore 700+ lbs) and can cruise all day at 120 mph and rides like a couch.

I would like to have a street bike, that is light, dependable, doesn't look like it just landed from Mars or look like a motorcross bike, can take me around town on an evening cruise, but still can hit the 60-80 mph roads for 1-2 hour bursts and can blast down gravel roads/fire roads even hit the occasional single track trail. After all of this, I would like to ride it home on the tarmac. To me...that is what a motorcycle is and that has never changed...for me.

Other than the Triumph Scrambler, I dont know of any relatively modern day bikes that can do all of this so I looked around at what I had in my garage (HD iron 883 (now sold), Kawasaki ZX6R 636R (now sold), and Suzuki LS650) and picked this bike...



I keep going to this bike because it weighs 350 lbs wet (I've probably removed 40-60 lbs worth of stuff off of it now), has about 35hp (without any mods), gets about 55-60 mpg and is dead reliable (lots of these over on the savage forum with anywhere from 50k to 100k on them without a rebuild). Also, it is paid for and was cheap ($1500). After finding that a bolt on kit was available to convert it to this...




...I started looking for scrambler inspiration and came up with these examples...























So I've stripped my little LS650 down and removed most everything that wasn't necessary (more will come off after I get some minor frame mods finished). I laced an 18" GS550 rim to the factory hub, traded the 10" rear shocks for a set of 12.5" shocks (may go longer later), lowered the front forks about 1.5" (will give it almost the same rake/trail as the new Bonnie) and put an 18" TKC on the rear and 19" TKC on the front. I've also changed the belt to chain drive, swapped the 2.5 gallon tank for a 4.5 gallon tank from a 79 yamaha xs750 and added a new bonneville seat.

Lots of other farkles to come (bash plates etc...) but it's at a fabricator right now getting a couple of inches added to the swing arm so I have room to adjust the chain after installing the new, bigger meat on the rear.
Here are a couple of progress pics...















I'll post more pics as soon as I get the little 650 back this week. Opinions are welcome...good or bad news ok.

But back to the first thought...what other bikes do you guys think would make interesting scrambler conversions? Old bikes or new bikes will do.

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Old 04-30-2011, 06:11 PM   #2
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I'm starting on an XS650 Yamaha "scrambler" partly inspired by your conversion.
Mine will be very utilitarian/ industrial in that it will be used on dirt roads, left outside hotels, and generally ridden hard, and put away wet.
Keep up the fine work, and keep on top of the "help" don't let him slack off!
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:34 PM   #3
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Thanks House! Glad to see someone else likes to take things they like and turn them into things they like more! I'm a big xs650 fan. My last project was a 78 special stripped down to bare bones. Kind of a cafe racer with more of an upright standard riding position.

I'll be glad to get the bike back. So will the help! He is a high energy kid. He seems to get really focused and settled when we get out in the garage together.

Have any pics of your yammy yet?
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:13 PM   #4
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This is the bike that got me interested in Scramblers:


I have no info info on the bike but this thing is easy on the eyes,
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:06 PM   #5
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This one's from OZ...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682212

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Old 04-30-2011, 08:23 PM   #6
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:47 PM   #7
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:50 PM   #8
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I love this thread it's going back to the "run what you brung" way of thinking I'm doing a rolling conversion on an '81 XS 650 but I can't seem to stay off the silly thing long enough to get much done. A few of my buds think it's not the best choice with all the other sports on the market but rather enjoy making a silk tool pouch out of a sows ear. I know it's limitations, at 400+ lbs. it's heavy, loud (yeah I know I know but it's $100.00 bike and it $20.00 emgo mufflers till I made sure all was well) and only has 6" of travel in front and 5" out back. On the plus side it's no where near as much as a BMW, KTM or any other modern adventure/dual sport bike, but I can go most any where the others can go, hi way, jeep trails, trail riding on single track you name it and I think not having a ton of plastic, being lower, a 900 cc or larger engine and the weight that goes with it kind of cancels out the lack of suspension travel. We need to keep this thread going and the projects coming By the way the Suzuki 650 single is very cool as are all the scramblers shown here.
this is my '81 650.
and the luggage rack I made for it. Still need to paint it.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:21 PM   #9
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Nice rack! Good to say that without getting smacked!

No pictures yet, it's just a pile O parts now. I'm building a frame, and swing arm for it. Nothing impressive, just something to do the job.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:29 PM   #10
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I really want to see how that savage turns out.

I think the TU250 could be made into a scrambler pretty easily.
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:06 AM   #11
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I haven't forgotten about you guys. I have a promise that I'll have my bike back from the shop before this weekend. I'll post some pice as soon as I pick it up from the welder.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:54 PM   #12
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Great thread, and very nice bikes!
OP, I liked your description. I love utilitarian bikes.
I live in a rural area, so it's great to have a "scrambler".



And this is my first post here, so hello everyone!


Here's a few photos of my Yamaha:





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Old 05-04-2011, 03:02 PM   #13
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This is the bike that got me interested in Scramblers:


I have no info info on the bike but this thing is easy on the eyes,
I would have to agree with you there, very easy on the eyes.

It would seem like "scramblers" were pretty much the dual sport bike before they decided to call them dual sports. I think the original Triumph 500 twins were about the best I've seen. They were fairly light, the 500 didn't vibrate too much, and they were pretty affective off-road.

This one showed up at a gas stop during the LA-Barstow-Vegas dual sport ride when I did it back in '03.

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Old 05-04-2011, 06:45 PM   #14
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I had one of these when I was 13. HD 350 Sprint SS. Sometimes I wish I still had it.
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I had one of these when I was about 23. Yamaha 360 Enduro, 2 stroke. I could pass traffic on the hwy when the limit was 55.
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