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Old 05-06-2012, 07:27 AM   #436
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Being in a similar situation in January as you are now, I would suggest continuing south if you have the time and money. I deeply regret coming back north, however I didnt have the time and lacked some money for a comfortable return if I were to continue south.

That being said, I still wish I would have kept going. S.A is high on my list, but now that I need a lot of money to fly there, buy a bike and ride for months, it looks like it's on the back burner for some time. In comparison it would it would have been few extra months and 1000's of dollars and I could have done a lot of it. Now I'm reading about those who I met on my travels currently doing it.

Hi Shibby!
Thanks for you thoughts.

Sorry your travel plans didn't work out the way you had hoped, and I hope you can continue it one day.

My understanding yet somewhat frustrated wife and I talked quite a bit about what I was going to do , and looked at many scenarios. Do I think I will regret coming home early and spending time with my family or the decision to head North now? Possibly, but probably not. I do not regret many decisions I have made in my life, and in fact the only ones I can think of would be decisions that affected other people in my life.

All of my dreams about motorcycle travel were not about the destination, seeing Africa or Australia or any other place. The common theme with all my previous dreamings was doing it by motorcycle. And yes, although I had no real destination in mind for this trip, I did want to go to South America and look around, But really, what I have always wanted to do was go on a really big bike trip .It didn't really matter where.

Do I think I will see South America by bike one day? Definitely ! And really, although it has taken my 60 some odd travel days to get here, a guy could get here from my home in a couple of weeks if he wanted to,( I have done 8,000 kms in 5 days before, but not by Buell ) and then carry on again from here.

So, for me, the "It’s the journey, not the destination" philosophy is really what I'm all about.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:39 AM   #437
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Please dont post pics of the creepy guy in the hotsprings.
But if you can dig up the Salmon River girls pictures,that would be O.K.
LOL, No problem, all creepy guy photos are now erased! Now if I can just drink enough to forget what he looks like!!!

Photos of the day at the Salmon River? Good times!!

Sadly, the forum rules don't allow photos of certain parts of the female anatomy on this site.

The best part of that day (Ok, not really the BEST part) was while we were there, a local farmer came by and was talking to MS, and couldn't really maintain eye contact with him. Later, I headed back to the river to find my watch (go figure, I had forgotten my watch) and I ran into the farmer and got talking to him. He remembered us all being down there, but he had no recollection of ME being there. I don't know what he was looking at, but I sure am glad it wasn't me
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Day 69 May 5 210 kms Quetzaltenango (Xela) to Tapachula Mex

Day 69 May 5 210 kms Quetzaltenango (Xela) to Tapachula Mex

The plan was to get up early and try to hit the border before too late in the day.
Well, I got up early, got loaded early, got on the road early……. But, didn’t actually get to the border too early. Was heading towards Tapalucha Mexico where some friends of mine were staying (“Steve and Lisa World” Webpage Link) so I plugged the address into the “google map” app on my iPhone, and it said 120 kms, showed me the route, were to turn and exactly how to get there. Easy, right? I had lots of gas to get there, and the price of gas is waaay cheaper in Mexico, so away I go. I ride through some pretty nice county, on some pretty nice roads, through some pretty nice towns, watching for the turnoff that google maps says is ahead of me. Once again, I roll through a town, and the main road seems to just turn into a small, narrow, barely used street. hmmm….. I turn off the road I am on, look for the main road, can’t find it, back on the same old road, follow that, and find the highway. That was pretty much the story in each town, until I would come to the conclusion that if just I stayed on the road going straight, I would eventually get back on the highway on the other side of town. The towns I did that in, would eventually NOT go to the main road, and I would have to search around for the right road. I got to see some interesting neighborhoods at least J

After riding for a while, my gas light came on, so I stopped to put in the gas from a gas can, and I looked at the iPhone map. Said I was way off course, but I hadn’t seen the turnoff ( I was watching for it). I had enough gas for 120 ks, but not much more than that. I had seen a gas station back a ways, so I spun around, filled the bike and gas can and asked for directions to border I wanted. Just keep on heading the way I had been, he said. Couple hours, no problem. Google maps didn’t agree with him, but I have been finding that google maps isn’t exactly that accurate in Central America. Well, I had a full tank of expensive gas ( I wanted to get rid of some of my Guatemalan money anyhow) and away I went.

I found the next turn off to the Ciudad Hidalgo border crossing and away I went. Up and up and down and up and around corners and it would have been awesome except it was probably the worst, rough, potholed road in existence. I rode few miles with a couple guys on XR250 type bikes, and even they were going slow and scooting around potholes and zigzaging around. It was paved, but there was very little pavement left.
I checked the time at one point and it had taken me over 3 hours to go 80 kms.


At one point, where the road was actually pretty good, I came up behind a pickup full of people standing and sitting in the back. It’s a pretty common site here, but this truck, a little mazda size pickup, had about 15 people in the back. One guy standing on the bumper holding on, and a couple of ladies sitting by the tailgate holding babies. I flipped up my modular helmet and the ladies could see me chewing gum. The one lady nudges another lady, as if to say watch this, and looks at me and starts mimicking me chewing gum and laughs, so I exaggerate my chewing gum back to them, so they start really chewing hard back at me, laughing. So I mime reaching into my pocket and passing them a piece of gum. Well, you should have heard them squealing with laughter. It was like the funniest thing they had ever seen. The road ahead cleared, so I booted it past them at mach 3, waving to them as they laughed and waved at me ( the men didn’t wave )



I rode down and down and down, into the jungle, and it really started warming and getting muggy feeling.


I finally pulled into Ciudad Tecun Uman, the Guatemalan side of the border, and you would think there would be signs saying “this way to the border”. Nope. I end up at a military base, and stop to ask the guard for directions. As he is explaining to me how to get there, a cop on a motorcycle motions for me to follow him, and away we go, breaking pretty much every traffic rule there is. He gets me to the border, says goodbye and in I go to customs. I park in an empty parking lot, a guy wearing an official looking badge comes over, a helper comes over who knows a bit of english. The official looking guy asks for my papers, the helper takes my papers without really asking, the official looking guy tells me it’s OK, so the helper buggers off inside with my papers, without discussing the price with me. I ask the official looking guy what is customary for a tip for the helper, and he says “not much, don’t worry about it” I didn’t have much in the way of Guatemalan money left, so the tip wasn’t going to be very much regardless.

He comes back and tells me that the guy who checks motorcycles is out for lunch and it will be about half an hour, so I visit with some of the helpers for a while, and the guy comes out, checks my bike, and away we go to immigration. One of the other helpers comes with us, and my helper goes into immigration, so the other helper tells me in spanish that the guy is going to try to screw me, and try to charge me the same fee as entering Guatemala plus ask for a tip and I should go into immigration with him. (Shhhhhhh) So in I go, and my helper isn’t very happy for me to be there. The immigration lady passes my passport back to me as my helper tries to take the passport. As we walk out, I ask him how much he wants for a tip, and he says, “well, you know, it costs 160 quetzals to enter Guatemala, and well……” so I says, “50q?”, and he says, “well, tip whatever you want, but you know I have to share the tip with the customs agents…….. you know how it works” So I mess with him a bit and say “I don’t have much money, I am a poor traveler and I don’t really have much money for food……” so he says “well, just tip me what you can afford”, with a sad look on his face. I was going to give him the 50q, but seeing as the border was slow and I was having fun with him, and I wanted to get rid of my Guatemalan money anyhow I gave him 100q (about $13 bucks)

That left me with about 20q, and as I walk back to my bike, the other helper asks for a tip too, so I gave him the 20q.( I had been visiting with him for quite a bit at customs and he was pretty cool)

I am sure it was some kind of racket they had worked out, but it was lots of fun.

They offered to help me with the mexican border, and I told them I had no money left, but they were OK with it. I told them no thanks and away I went. Got through immigration (didn’t have to pay for the tourist card for some reason) and on to customs. The customs chick checks my bike, a quick look in my panniers, tells me I need to buy my import permit in Tapachula, and away I go.

I head into town, and I have the address for Steve and Lisa’s Hotel. 97a 4 avinida norte. No problem, I go by, 9th, on through 7th, 5th, then…….3rd.Hmmmmm, so I go around the block ( all one way streets) 1st, 3rd, 5th. Hmmmmmm. Where the heck is 4th.

I figure it out, and it goes 7th, 5th, 3rd,1st ,central, 2nd,4th,6th……etc

The streets are all one way, so I go over to 6th and up through heavy traffic and markets, turn at Calle 10, figuring 97a will be between 9th and 10th, and , nope. So I park my bike and walk to find the hotel.

Parked bike



Turns out 97a Avenida 4a Norte is between Calles 12 and 13. Well… of course it is!!

I find Steve and Lisa and we stay up late BSing bikes, travel, what we have seen and other stuff

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Well after Brian had a chance to practice his English with us he headed off in the direction of Veracruz,thanks for the visit it was really great to BS with you again shiny side up rubber side down see you again on these little roads around the world.
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If we are in your way let me now, we`ll be glad !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:34 PM   #441
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Day 70 and 71 May 6 and 7 464 kms Tapachula toTehauntepec

We had a pretty lazy day, Mexican style. I went shopping for a new charging cable for my phone, did a bit of grocery shopping in a huge grocery store with very few items, and visited with Steve and Lisa.

In the afternoon we headed down to El Centro for a while to check out the action. The town center was busy with vendors, people visiting, and children playing. It was great.

That night we grabbed a cab to a restaurant they knew for supper.

Steve and Lisa



I had spaghetti. Its been a long time since I had spaghetti. It was a Mexican version of Bolognese sauce, and man was it good. We went out to catch a cab and watched the dogs playing in the street.




Headed back to the Hotel, and when I paid the cab driver, I asked him if the fare was 40 pesos ( I knew it was 30) and he told me, no, no, it’s 30, only 30. I gave him the 40 and told him the extra was his propina. You gotta like honest cab drivers.

Got back to the hotel, cracked a couple of beers and started Bsing. Its funny that Steve and I didn’t know each other when we were punk assed kids. He lived for a while in the same area I did, and did all the same stupid crap as teenagers. I would tell a story of some stupid assed thing I had done as a kid, and it would remind him of something stupid he had done, and on and all night.

In the course of the night he told me he had to fix his panniers, as the were bent slightly and didn’t close tight. I grabbed my jack, and we went to work.

Mexican bodywork



The plan for the next day was to get up early, hit the carwash and head on down the road. That all happened as planned….…… except the whole “get up early part”

Car wash





Said goodbye to Steve and Lisa, and promised to keep in touch on our travels.(They are 7 or 8 months into a RTW and in absolutely no rush to get there)



I headed off on great roads, and came to the aduana (Customs) building just outside of town. I pulled up, gave him my papers, got photocopies, gave the guy the copies, no problems, except that it was real loud with all the traffic going by and the fellow was real soft spoken. I could only hear about a third of what he was saying, and I can usually only understand about a third of what anybody is saying, and the third he was saying wasn’t the third I could understand. Finally and older guy comes over, speaks louder and simpler, and I could understand what they wanted. Then the older guy, in spanish, tells me that he can’t allow me to enter Mexico. Crap! "Why not?" I ask, and he laughs, and the other guy laughs, and I grab my heart, tell him I don’t want to go back to Guatemala, and I laugh. Funny funny guys!!

I head off down the road, and the roads are great. No potholes, no tolls, little traffic, and great scenery. Only nowhere really to stop for a break and take pictures, so I tried my hand at a few left handed, on the move, action type pictures.


















I look at my map and decide that Juchitan de Zaragoza looks like a good place to look for a room, so I ride into town. I see a hotel sign just off the highway, near down town, and it looks like a real busy street, with cops directing traffic and the whole area jammed with taxi cabs. Hmmmmm….. pull up into what looks like a traffic jam of taxi cabs, the street is impassible, there are taxis parked in every possible direction…… and no cab drivers in the cabs. Hmmmmm. I pull up as far as I can go with reasonable riding, and a cab driver directs me past some cars. There is room for my panniers, but just. I squeeze by a few more, and that’s it. There is a bunch of guys standing around, so I talk to them a bit, they try to see where I will fit, and nope. This is as far as I can go. No one offers to move their cab, so I am stuck. Hmmmm.

A young fellow offers me a glass of aqua ( its stifling hot out) I thank him and tell him I have water. So I figure I will just have to wait the traffic jam out. The guys are all friendly, and asking me about the bike and where I am from, but there seems to be a common consensus that I should maybe keep going if I can. Hmmmmm. I ask a guy what is going on with the traffic, and he rambles on something, but all I catch is what I think is the word “pausa” (break) That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, but I figure I can look up the word I thought I heard later….


The guys tell me I that if I can get my bike up on the sidewalk, I will be able to get past the traffic. The one guy moves a small motorbike that’s kind of in the way ( not his) and I can get my front tire on the sidewalk, but didn’t hit it hard enough to pop the back tire up. A couple of guys push me, and I am up.



Off I go to find a room…. And I rode all over town, and couldn’t find a hotel. I also didn’t see any taxis running around, which was kind of weird.

While riding down one residential street, a guy on a scooter passes me, and the hollers over there is something wrong with my lights, they aren’t working right. I stop, take a look, and another fella tells me, “yeah, only one headlight is on.” I explain that one light is for high beam, and one is for low beam, and they aren’t both on at the same time (It confuses cops in Canada all the time, too)
The guy doesn’t really believe me, but oh well. I ask him if he knows where there is a cheap hotel around, and he offers me to come to his house if I need to sleep. Thanks you, but I will look for a hotel (It’s the first time someone has offered me a place to stay)

I carry on, can’t find a likely looking Hotel, and head out on the highway again. Maybe there is a hotel there. I ride past the original road I took into town, and there is even more traffic backed up, and I look to the right, and on the right hand side of the intersection there is a fresh burned out car. Huh..??..

I ride a few more blocks, and right in the intersection is a burnt out motorcycle…… hmmmm. I ride another block….another burnt out car. This can’t be good. I give up on a hotel, and I head to Tehauntepec, where I had been before and I remember hotels there.

I stop at the rest stop, pull out my handy dandy dictionary app, and look up words I thought I had heard from the taxi guys.I thought maybe I had the word para(for) or pero (but) but that wasn’t quite right, and didn’t make sense. I looked up “paro”….. and it means “strike”

I had ridden right smack dab into the middle of a labor strike, that at some point had come to burning cars in the street. You don’t see that everyday J

I got a room in Tehauntepec, saved myself $8 by getting a room WITHOUT air-conditioning, and as I write this, its 31C outside, and way warmer in my room. $8 doesn’t seem like a lot of money right now J




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Well after Brian had a chance to practice his English with us he headed off in the direction of Veracruz,thanks for the visit it was really great to BS with you again shiny side up rubber side down see you again on these little roads around the world.
Muchas Gracias, amigos.
It has been a while since I had any kind of real conversation in English, but I thought I was doing pretty good.

Might have been the beer....................

I am now in Veracruz for a day or 3. I ain't never been in any ocean that didn't start with a "P" before, so I might have to get my feet wet tomorrow.

Good luck on your adventure, keep in touch, and maybe see you again on a different continent somewhere.
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Very nice RR .... !!!!

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Pasado mes de Enero, yo voy a Zihautanero y es muy bonita. Ahora yo subo la costa del golfo de Mexico, pero muchas gracias.
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Day 72 and 73 May 8 and 9 497 kms Tehauntepec to Veracruz

I hit the road at a decent hour, and there was no sign of striking Taxi drivers riding though Juchitan de Zaragoza, and the burnt up cars and bikes had been cleared from the roads.

The roads were in good shape and looked like they could be Canadian roads.




Except of course the different vegetation.


Once I hit the State of Veracruz border, the roads changed, and I had to once again be on the lookout for potholes and slow moving traffic.



It was getting pretty warm out, so I found that if I was getting uncomfortably warm, and I stopped for the occasional 5 minute break on the side of the road, when I got back on the road, the wind seemed cooler ……. It worked for me, anyhow J

One of my many breaks



I got on the toll highway, and holy cow, they ain’t cheap. It worked out to about $26 to go 250 kms, and the road wasn’t much better than the free roads in Chiapas. It kind of kicked the crap out of the budget, but I did make good time J


Rolled into the city of Veracruz, and I wanted to check out the ocean. I had never seen the gulf of Mexico before, so I tried to get to the beach. It’s not as easy as the maps would have you believe. I ended up in some really poor part of town, but off in the distance I thought I could see water…..

I finally got my bearings and headed off towards the malecon, and found a hotel, right across the road from the ocean, with air conditioning, a phone, a pool, and LOTS of hot water for 300p a night.

Golfo de Mexico




I spent the rest of the day walking the malecon and enjoying the air conditioning in my room.

Veracruz is a pretty big city, so the next morning I hopped on my bike to have a look around. I got on the divided road in front of the hotel and pulled a U-turn at the next intersection. Now, some intersections have “no U-turn” signs, and some don’t, but most everybody just ignores the signs and turns where-ever. I, on the other hand, try to watch for the signs and drive accordingly, just in case. So, green light, very little traffic, no sign saying “no U-turn”, so away I go.

Motorcycle cop pulls me over. Crap. I have done nothing wrong, but I can see what’s coming He tells me I turned on a red light. I tell him “no, it was yellow” (it was actually still green). He tells me I can’t make a U-turn there. I point and tell him there is no sign. He tells me I pulled around too far and went into the breakdown lane. I told him “no I didn’t”. Then he comes back to, “you can’t make a U-turn there” and there is a u-turn spot further down. I ask him why there is no sign, and he shrugs. Crap. He is going for the no U-turn. So he sits there for a while, waiting for me to say something(play the game), and I don’t, so he as asks me for my license, I give it to him, and he tells me he has to hold it to guarantee I pay my fine. That’s ok, I tell him ( I have another one in the hotel room) He sits there for a while more, waiting for me to say something, and I don’t, so he goes to his top box and gets out the ticket book, and explains what it is. I ask him where do I pay the fine (I am still not playing the game) and he tells me at the municipal police station. I ask him where, and he doesn’t want to tell me. He tells me again he is going to write a ticket, and I say “OK”, but he doesn’t start writing. I wait, he waits, I don’t say anything, so eventually he says that he can help me if I want to pay him now (There it is!!) I ask him how much, and he says 10 days wages for a cop. (he is letting me know they don’t make much money) I say how much is that, and he says 500 pesos ($38) I tell him I don’t have that kind of money, and he immediately says ½, 250p. I tell him I don’t have it. This goes back and forth for a while, but he is stuck on 250. I offer him 150. Nope. I ask him if they take credit cards at the police station. He says no, so I ask him if there is a bank machine nearby, and he was less than comfortable taking me to a bank machine. I put on my best “Oh crap, what will I do” face and stare off at the ocean for a bit. I look at him and tell him, sadly, that I wanted to go to the ruins north of here, and I only have enough for that, gas and food and would he take 100p.(under $8) He agrees, and now the only problem is getting a 100 peso note out of my wallet that is full of money. Just then a car pulls up, a lady asks him something, he walks over to her, and I take the opportunity to pull out his money and snap his photo with my phone.



I figured he wasn’t going to be into posing for me J

He comes back, passes me my license as I pass him the money. He pockets the money without even looking at it, and explains once again that I can’t tell anybody. He didn’t know much English, but he knew the word “discretion” (it’s actually very similar in Spanish) He shakes my hand, once again reminds me not to say anything to anybody, but if I get pulled over again to say “Si, diez alpha” or something like that, and I shouldn’t be bothered again (I think).

He buggers off and I go directly to a McDonalds for free WiFi and post his picture on facebook J

I head off to look around town some more, being very careful of road signs, check out some stores, and a better beach down by Boca del Rio


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Good mordida story Brian! Same happened to me in Veracruz and it ended on the same amount 100 pesos! I was going the wrong way down a 1 way street to a hotel about 20yds. He was nice to me and lead me to a cheaper hotel after I payed the 100 pesos!
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[QUOTE=BC Brian;18655239]Veracruz is a pretty big city, so the next morning I hopped on my bike to have a look around. I got on the divided road in front of the hotel and pulled a U-turn at the next intersection. Now, some intersections have “no U-turn” signs, and some don’t, but most everybody just ignores the signs and turns where-ever. I, on the other hand, try to watch for the signs and drive accordingly, just in case. So, green light, very little traffic, no sign saying “no U-turn”, so away I go.

Motorcycle cop pulls me over. Crap. I have done nothing wrong, but I can see what’s coming He tells me I turned on a red light. I tell him “no, it was yellow” (it was actually still green). He tells me I can’t make a U-turn there. I point and tell him there is no sign. He tells me I pulled around too far and went into the breakdown lane. I told him “no I didn’t”. Then he comes back to, “you can’t make a U-turn there” and there is a u-turn spot further down. I ask him why there is no sign, and he shrugs. Crap. He is going for the no U-turn. So he sits there for a while, waiting for me to say something(play the game), and I don’t, so he as asks me for my license, I give it to him, and he tells me he has to hold it to guarantee I pay my fine. That’s ok, I tell him ( I have another one in the hotel room) He sits there for a while more, waiting for me to say something, and I don’t, so he goes to his top box and gets out the ticket book, and explains what it is. I ask him where do I pay the fine (I am still not playing the game) and he tells me at the municipal police station. I ask him where, and he doesn’t want to tell me. He tells me again he is going to write a ticket, and I say “OK”, but he doesn’t start writing. I wait, he waits, I don’t say anything, so eventually he says that he can help me if I want to pay him now (There it is!!) I ask him how much, and he says 10 days wages for a cop. (he is letting me know they don’t make much money) I say how much is that, and he says 500 pesos ($38) I tell him I don’t have that kind of money, and he immediately says ½, 250p. I tell him I don’t have it. This goes back and forth for a while, but he is stuck on 250. I offer him 150. Nope. I ask him if they take credit cards at the police station. He says no, so I ask him if there is a bank machine nearby, and he was less than comfortable taking me to a bank machine. I put on my best “Oh crap, what will I do” face and stare off at the ocean for a bit. I look at him and tell him, sadly, that I wanted to go to the ruins north of here, and I only have enough for that, gas and food and would he take 100p.(under $8) He agrees, and now the only problem is getting a 100 peso note out of my wallet that is full of money. Just then a car pulls up, a lady asks him something, he walks over to her, and I take the opportunity to pull out his money and snap his photo with my phone.



I figured he wasn’t going to be into posing for me J

He comes back, passes me my license as I pass him the money. He pockets the money without even looking at it, and explains once again that I can’t tell anybody. He didn’t know much English, but he knew the word “discretion” (it’s actually very similar in Spanish) He shakes my hand, once again reminds me not to say anything to anybody, but if I get pulled over again to say “Si, diez alpha” or something like that, and I shouldn’t be bothered again (I think).
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... Es una lastima que se le haga esto al turismo ..... ( ojala hubieses podido tomar una foto con el rostro ) ... normalmente con los motociclistas mexicanos tratan de hacerlo pero si nos ponemos en el plan que tu estuviste y que hibas muy bien desisten de su acto corrrupto ... esperamos que no vuelva a suceder !!!!!!!!
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Brian, great ride report. I'm really enjoying it.

Several years ago I was a tourist in Mexico. I was walking alone one day when a local police car pulled right into my path. The officer, and 3 others without uniforms, jumped out and surrounded me. The cop asked for my wallet. He looked at my I.D and then gave my wallet back, then ordered me into the back of the police car. As the cop drove he would reach into the back seat, hand open, palm up. I was driven around until the moment he had all my money. Then they let me go while they joked and laughed.

And when I tried to report it to the local authorities, you wouldn't believe the laughter.

But that was several years ago.
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... Es una lastima que se le haga esto al turismo ..... ( ojala hubieses podido tomar una foto con el rostro ) ... normalmente con los motociclistas mexicanos tratan de hacerlo pero si nos ponemos en el plan que tu estuviste y que hibas muy bien desisten de su acto corrrupto ... esperamos que no vuelva a suceder !!!!!!!!
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Muchas personas en Mexico piensen turismo es malo porque de cartels de drogas,pero la corupcion tambien es malo de tourismo.

no quiero hacer un photo con su cara porque yo no pienso el esta alegro
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