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Old 12-05-2011, 02:04 PM   #31
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Of all the former police cars out there, the B4C Camaros and the '94-'96 9C1 Caprices were my favorites, though I do like the old Diplomats as well. Having driven both the P71 CVPIs and the LT1 powered Caprices back to back, the Caprice launched harder and cornered better than the CV. The CV could be a lot of fun though, if you knew how to use the body roll to "steer with the rear".

My new favorite is this one, my personal ride and nowhere near retirement.





Ridiculous fast and very stable. My old CV would get 10 MPG around town and not much better on the highway. This gets between 14-16 around town on patrol and 22 MPG cruising the interstate at 80 MPH. Running wide open on the speed limiter though, you can watch the needle on the gas guage fall like a rock!

You may want to look at vehicles from Kansas. Some years back they passed a law that requires all emergency service vehicles to be retired at 50k miles. We used to get our used patrol cars out of Kansas for years, at half the cost of new, complete with all the maintenance records. I don't know if they do private party sales though.

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Old 12-05-2011, 04:21 PM   #32
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You may want to look at vehicles from Kansas. Some years back they passed a law that requires all emergency service vehicles to be retired at 50k miles. We used to get our used patrol cars out of Kansas for years, at half the cost of new, complete with all the maintenance records. I don't know if they do private party sales though.
Our local department passes its cars down to other city departments, rather than retire them. I'm pretty sure they put more than 50k miles on them before doing so, too. 50k seems like it would be only a year of driving or so, and our cars definitely stay on the street longer than that. Judging by the bonepile behind the maintenance yard, they do significant bodywork in house, too. There are patrol cars back there with quarters cut off, presumably to repair other units.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:46 PM   #33
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Of all the former police cars out there, the B4C Camaros and the '94-'96 9C1 Caprices were my favorites, though I do like the old Diplomats as well. Having driven both the P71 CVPIs and the LT1 powered Caprices back to back, the Caprice launched harder and cornered better than the CV. The CV could be a lot of fun though, if you knew how to use the body roll to "steer with the rear".

My new favorite is this one, my personal ride and nowhere near retirement.



Ridiculous fast and very stable. My old CV would get 10 MPG around town and not much better on the highway. This gets between 14-16 around town on patrol and 22 MPG cruising the interstate at 80 MPH. Running wide open on the speed limiter though, you can watch the needle on the gas guage fall like a rock!

You may want to look at vehicles from Kansas. Some years back they passed a law that requires all emergency service vehicles to be retired at 50k miles. We used to get our used patrol cars out of Kansas for years, at half the cost of new, complete with all the maintenance records. I don't know if they do private party sales though.

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That looks downright tough! I saw a retired Charger PI, but the center counsel was hacked apart and the price was way too high. I really like the brush guard. When I get the CVPI, I might make something custom for the front bar. Good photo contribution!
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I wish Carbon would hurry up and get their act together. By the time they get around to actually producing cars, law enforcement will all be done by surveillance drones and automatic bank withdrawal.
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:06 PM   #35
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Purpose built police car. Its been in development for years.
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I reckon that car means business. I like the engine choice, 400 ft/lb TD that gets 30mpg. Noice!
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:57 AM   #39
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Our local department passes its cars down to other city departments, rather than retire them. I'm pretty sure they put more than 50k miles on them before doing so, too. 50k seems like it would be only a year of driving or so, and our cars definitely stay on the street longer than that. Judging by the bonepile behind the maintenance yard, they do significant bodywork in house, too. There are patrol cars back there with quarters cut off, presumably to repair other units.
That may be a State thing with Kansas rather than a City/County thing. Before we went to the Chargers, we got almost all our CV's from KHP, in assorted colors, and none with more than 55k miles on them. The last batch we got was through a refurbishing company in Texas, former San Antonio PD cars. They were crap-heaps that had been slapped together for profit and quick resale. The Chargers were all purchased new, and have been a blessing.

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Old 12-06-2011, 07:26 AM   #40
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That looks downright tough! I saw a retired Charger PI, but the center counsel was hacked apart and the price was way too high. I really like the brush guard. When I get the CVPI, I might make something custom for the front bar. Good photo contribution!


This was my old CVPI the day I retired it for my new Charger. She was a former San Antonio PD car (2005 model) with about 100k miles on her, as I recall. We sold her to a neighboring PD like we did with most of our old fleet. The garage queens were sold as scrap.

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From what I've read, they've built a few prototypes, but I don't think it will ever get off the ground without financial backing from a major PD like New York or LA. The idea of a purpose-built police package is a good one, but it will be tough to make it profitable. I think most departments are reluctant to commit to the Carbon product simply due to its unique nature. Replacement parts for Fords, Chevys and Dodges are easy to get. The Carbon Motors product is likely to be more difficult. It will likely end up with parts from other manufactuers, much like AMC did back in the day, a combination of Ford, Chrysler, and GM parts for the end product. Still, it would be nice to see this company get their product off the ground and in to production.

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My new favorite is this one, my personal ride and nowhere near retirement.



Ridiculous fast and very stable. My old CV would get 10 MPG around town and not much better on the highway. This gets between 14-16 around town on patrol and 22 MPG cruising the interstate at 80 MPH. Running wide open on the speed limiter though, you can watch the needle on the gas guage fall like a rock!

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This OK State Trooper liked his new "mobile office" alot back in 2008. He wrote both of us with warnings to be careful and gave excellent advice on the camping area up ahead at Black Mesa. This had to be the best "being pulled over" experience ever, and I've been pulled over several times over the years. A smile and a cordial attitude goes a long way.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:46 AM   #42
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Ridiculous fast and very stable. My old CV would get 10 MPG around town and not much better on the highway. This gets between 14-16 around town on patrol and 22 MPG cruising the interstate at 80 MPH. Running wide open on the speed limiter though, you can watch the needle on the gas guage fall like a rock!


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The ones we've been getting with those wheels have all been V6 cars.

We recently bought all of the Crown Vic Police package cars left in California whether we needed them or not. Something like 35 cars.

I'm curious to see what the new Chevy will look like.
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This OK State Trooper liked his new "mobile office" alot back in 2008. He wrote both of us with warnings to be careful and gave excellent advice on the camping area up ahead at Black Mesa. This had to be the best "being pulled over" experience ever, and I've been pulled over several times over the years. A smile and a cordial attitude goes a long way.
It really is amazing how many people forget that. Cops are people too. They (for the most part) tend to treat people as they are being treated. When I was young and dumb and was getting stopped more often than I should have been, I was always polite and respectful, and seldom ended up with more than a verbal warning, though I often rated a hard copy. People make mistakes and usually a reminder and a kind word goes a long way, just as you stated.

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The ones we've been getting with those wheels have all been V6 cars.

We recently bought all of the Crown Vic Police package cars left in California whether we needed them or not. Something like 35 cars.

I'm curious to see what the new Chevy will look like.
I'm curious about the new Chevys as well. I forget, are they supposed to be RWD? FWD has its place in certain jurisdictions, but for where I work, RWD is really what is needed, and quick acceleration.

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Old 12-06-2011, 11:28 AM   #44
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We use to get rid of our cars at 75k....but with budget cuts now they are getting very long in the tooth....just now we are going to be getting new cars, Chargers and Tahoe's.

Personally I would not want a car other then an admin car.

And again most of our "good" cars go to road and bridge and such.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:41 AM   #45
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I'm curious about the new Chevys as well. I forget, are they supposed to be RWD? FWD has its place in certain jurisdictions, but for where I work, RWD is really what is needed, and quick acceleration.

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From what I've heard the new Chevy is RWD.


The Dodge doesn't work here, criminals are fat and don't fit in the back. They bought a few for performance driver training.


They don't buy cars with limited slip here because they crash 'em on the clover leafs. One wheel drive works best around here.
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