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Old 02-28-2012, 09:57 AM   #286
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Is Montoya related to Roberto Guerrero?


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Old 02-28-2012, 10:08 AM   #287
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Why were race cars and the jet dryer vehicle even on the track at the same time? IMHO, poor race direction.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:27 AM   #288
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Why were race cars and the jet dryer vehicle even on the track at the same time? IMHO, poor race direction.

Pretty standard for NASCAR, drivers are to maintain a safe speed under caution...Montoya should be thrown completely out of the series.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:30 AM   #289
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I believe the crash trucks carry a CAFS system. (Compressed Air Foam System) -- Really huge fire extinguisher, but it is limited. Jet Fuel puts out a bunch of BTU's and there was a lot of it, overwhelmed what they had. Generally they don't need that much suppression on a race track.


There are many full sized Fire Engines with CAFS, but on the Crash truck it is probably a small water tank and an SCBA bottle or two to power it. As you can see in the videos the fireload simply overwhelmed this handy little system.

If I were designing a crash truck from scratch it would have two of these systems, double the size of the one pictured (single SCBA/30gallons H2O iirc) That would easily handle most raceway wrecks.
My first statement was a reference to how long it took the real fire fighting truck to get to a large fire. It seemed like it was close to 4-5 mins.

My second comment was simply a joke.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:40 AM   #290
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My first statement was a reference to how long it took the real fire fighting truck to get to a large fire. It seemed like it was close to 4-5 mins.

My second comment was simply a joke.
I would guess the full sized fire truck is positioned elsewhere-- not for track access, say near a fuel farm or similar.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:43 AM   #291
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Shouldn't a jet dryer have an onboard fire suppression system? Fully automatic?

I don't think Daytona likes her new pavement.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:47 AM   #292
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As heard on "Bob and Tom"

"How many nascar drivers does it take to hit a jet dryer?Only Juan!"

"What are the chances a nascar driver would hit the jet dryer?Juan in a million!"!

Seriously tho,I wish they'd called the race and my man Dave Blaney would've won.Poetic justice for the man who gave up his points so Danica could race.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:55 AM   #293
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As heard on "Bob and Tom"

"How many nascar drivers does it take to hit a jet dryer?Only Juan!"

"What are the chances a nascar driver would hit the jet dryer?Juan in a million!"!

Seriously tho,I wish they'd called the race and my man Dave Blaney would've won.Poetic justice for the man who gave up his points so Danica could drive around the track 60 laps down and get TV exposure completely out of proportion to her racing credentials compared to other women racers in NASCAR.
Fixed that for you, no need to thank me...
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:18 PM   #295
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Pretty standard for NASCAR, drivers are to maintain a safe speed under caution...Montoya should be thrown completely out of the series.
Sort of looked like something broke on his car and he was along for the ride, but he was hauling ass.
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Old 02-28-2012, 01:28 PM   #296
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I find it interesting that the media described Danica's race as overcoming crashes that "weren't her fault" to fight back and finish 38th. They don't mention that she finished behind 7 cars that didn't finish the race.

So is it safe to say that second place is the first loser, but second to last is the new winner?
She lost 63 laps while they rebuilt the entire rear-end of her car. She took a hit to the left rear by Jimmie Johnson when he was spun out . (His spin, by the way, was the same as her spin in the Nationwide race -- the result of a bump from behind.)

Anyone who completed more laps than her would finish ahead of her.
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Pretty standard for NASCAR, drivers are to maintain a safe speed under caution...Montoya should be thrown completely out of the series.
I thought his post-wreck interview is more proof, as if any is needed, that he's a self-centered idiot with the IQ of a plank of wood. It's one reason why F1 was glad to see the back of him.

He had a vibration problem whenever he hit the gas. He pitted for it. They couldn't see anything. So he goes back out and asks his spotter to watch while he gives it the gas, to see if there's a visible problem. Then Montoya gives it the gas -- just as he's approaching the track workers and the jet blower.

To me, that's irresponsible driving. He knew he had a problem, and he put those workers in extreme danger.

To top it off, he didn't even acknowledge any culpability in his interview. It was almost entirely about him, him, him.

Not a fan, as you can tell.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:14 PM   #298
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I wondered why he was going so fast, I thought he going around to the back of the field. How the hell did they get his car going again? It looked totaled.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:28 PM   #299
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Looks like the C-pillar problems on the 48 have gotten Knaus a 6 race suspension and cost Johnson a 25 points.

Jeff Gordon lost 25 owner points too, since he owns the 48 car.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:34 PM   #300
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Looks like the C-pillar problems on the 48 have gotten Knaus a 6 race suspension and cost Johnson a 25 points.

Jeff Gordon lost 25 owner points too, since he owns the 48 car.
That is pretty stiff. So JJ has a negative point balance? He is lucky it is early in the season.

I'm not a big fan of Knaus. Great tactician, good leader, and definitely puts maximum effort into the team, but he has been caught cheating a number of times now which makes me think either he is cheating too much, or is just a bad cheater. One of these years he is going to get the lifetime suspension.
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