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Old 01-25-2015, 05:11 PM   #1
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So I'm building my side car rig and I'm getting there. My question is I was thinking about the MOA in Montana ( not a rally guy) but a great trip with my 7 year old son. My question is what is a good or real speed you can ride this thing on the back roads. Have to think about him and the time he will sit. 500 miles on my big bike is a walk in the park just my first hack set up

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Old 01-25-2015, 05:21 PM   #2
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That'll primarily depend on how well the outfit is set up, and your personal skill level.

That none of us have any realistic idea of what the road/weather conditions will entail, doesn't help.

For that matter, you haven't told us what sidecar you are nailing to the side. It could weigh 3000 lbs, for all we know.



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Old 01-25-2015, 05:31 PM   #3
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Ok

It's a cosy with a DMC Sub frame. Been riding for 30 years ( Just not a side car)
Other than weather as who can perdict that

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Old 01-25-2015, 05:39 PM   #4
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Before you put you kid in the chair please spend the solo time learning and "practicing" to pilot a hack. Not remotely close to riding a 2 wheeler. Takes time, you're not going to be proficient after just a couple Sunday afternoon jaunts. By the time you learn enough to feel safe enough to haul your kid you'll also be familiar enough with your outfit to know it's capabilities and limitations. Once you're capable and the bike is set up correctly I don't see why an experienced hack pilot couldn't run the 2 lane backroads at the posted speed limits on an R100/7 outfit. By then you'll also learn the difference and time required between doing 500 miles on a 2 wheeler and doing 500 miles piloting an outfit.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:47 PM   #5
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Oh shit yes

I would never put my kid in somthing I'm not totally in control of.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:54 PM   #6
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There's a fine article in the latest edition of Motorcyclist. Aaron Frank flew 1000 miles from home with his daughter to pick up a '71 BMW 750 attached to a Velorex and ride it home.
The 750 was happiest at 55mph , but would pull to 80. They made it home in 3 days.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:15 PM   #7
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Lol

Just read that this am and then found out where the MOA is soooo

Jusy thought he might have fun being around old weird air head people. He loves being on the back of the bike just not for such an extended period of time
3-4 hours so far. Would just throw him on the back but why not take the hack :)
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It's a cosy with a DMC Sub frame. Been riding for 30 years ( Just not a side car)
Other than weather as who can perdict that

Sweet.

Read Bike Breaker's reply, it pretty much covers it.

Now it's down to how comfortable you'll feel when riding it. You can forget about the 30 years of experience, though. That just means you are aware of where all the controls are.

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Hope to get it on next weekish

Just did a top end so need the bike running first. Super excited to have it
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:52 AM   #10
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It's a cosy with a DMC Sub frame.

If you don't have any steering mods, 300 miles will be a long day. I have an R100RT with a Cozy with no steering mods also using a DMC subframe. I'm still trying to decide on the Montana MOA. With or without the sidecar or take the Ural…
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:59 AM   #11
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As far as speed 65 is no problem and even faster if you want. Avoid heavy loads in 5th as it puts a lot of end load on the transmission bearings and they are a weak point. Cruising in 5th is fine but downshift often.
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Old 01-28-2015, 02:00 PM   #12
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So I'm building my side car rig and I'm getting there. My question is I was thinking about the MOA in Montana ( not a rally guy) but a great trip with my 7 year old son. My question is what is a good or real speed you can ride this thing on the back roads. Have to think about him and the time he will sit. 500 miles on my big bike is a walk in the park just my first hack set up

Thank you
MIght want to take a flight to one of the Evergreen courses on sidecar handling. Plus get one of these and read/practice/reat/......

When my son was 10 we did a 3,000 mile trip (R1200RT). Drive a 100, rest, repeat 4 times then find a motel with TV and a pool and stop for the day. Downtime lets them recover and the pool and TV keep it fun.

I've done 300 mile days on my Ural, surface streets only, 60 mph top, most at 55. Could have done 400, but that would be the limit more on time than anything else.

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Old 01-29-2015, 03:49 PM   #13
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Fun is the key. He just loves being on bike and having some of his friends with him in the side car will make him happy ( stuffed animals). Pack a tent and some camping gear will be fantastic
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