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Old 09-09-2013, 03:30 PM   #1
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Chinese Scooter on the Highway

Dongfang scooter performance on the Interstate:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2...pibnualhol.mp4

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9...vrsxkpmndb.mp4
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:58 PM   #2
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Ok, what model and year ?
Happy to see the wheels stayed on........

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Old 09-10-2013, 12:21 AM   #3
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Ok, what model and year ?
Happy to see the wheels stayed on........

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http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4...ppgagcmege.mp4
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:59 PM   #4
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The guy in the video is full of it. It's 278cc's, not 300 and there is no way it "cruises" at 85 mph. It probably struggles to reach 85 mph on the "chinometer" which is lucky to be an actual 75 mph.

Hold it at WOT for extended distances and your going to be fixing something...
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:45 PM   #5
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The guy in the video is full of it. It's 278cc's, not 300 and there is no way it "cruises" at 85 mph. It probably struggles to reach 85 mph on the "chinometer" which is lucky to be an actual 75 mph.

Hold it at WOT for extended distances and your going to be fixing something...
You do realize that a Vespa GTS 300 has an engine displacement of 278cc and 22hp. This scooter has 20hp.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:18 AM   #6
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You do realize that a Vespa GTS 300 has an engine displacement of 278cc and 22hp. This scooter has 20hp.
Yes and that's where the similarity ends. Even if I was to accept the HP rating on the Sunny these two motors only share a similar displacement.

Ill leave the rest for "Vespa Guy".

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Old 09-11-2013, 07:23 AM   #7
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Yes and that's where the similarity ends. Even if I was to accept the HP rating on the Sunny these two motors only share a similar displacement.

Ill leave the rest for "Vespa Guy".

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Yeah, but I didn't have to take a mortgage out on this scooter and it doesn't have a lien on it. The department of motor vehicles was surprised when I registered it because they're use to seeing peoples motorcycles and scooters owned by the bank.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:15 AM   #8
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Chinese scooters are not my cup of tea, but nothing wrong with buying one as long as you know what you are getting into. They are what they are, but I would definitely suggest that you have some mechanical skills.

The thing I have a problem with is people claiming Chinese scooters/motorcycles are as good as their Taiwanese/Japanese counterparts and grossly exaggerate their capabilities.

There is a reason Taiwanese/Japanese costs more...

That being said, several Taiwanese scooter manufacturers have models assembled in mainland China that are really inexpensive while still providing very close to the same quality.

As far as the 20 horsepower rating goes, that's about as accurate as the 85 mph cruising speed...

And by the way, I've owned several Chinese scooters in addition to a dozen or so Taiwanese/Japanese machines.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:19 AM   #9
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Yeah, but I didn't have to take a mortgage out on this scooter and it doesn't have a lien on it. The department of motor vehicles was surprised when I registered it because they're use to seeing peoples motorcycles and scooters owned by the bank.
Now that's a different topic. What you said was:

"You do realize that a Vespa GTS 300 has an engine displacement of 278cc and 22hp. This scooter has 20hp."

Now you agree that the power plants are very different even though the displacement is the similar. Ok we agree.

As far as bikes being financed as opposed to paid in cash has little to do with the performance of the scooter. Look as long as you're happy with your purchase that's all that's matters.

I've owned china scoots and had a few good ones. What I found is that the cost of ownership once all the PDI is done and that would include:

Change all fluids
Change all fuel hoses (maybe vacuum also)
Replace tire valve stems
Waterproof as much of the electrical as possible
Tighten every not bolt and screw

Now add in the shorter PM intervals and inevitable busted parts and a shorter life expectancy and the economy of the purchase starts to fade long term.

Good luck and enjoy your scoot !


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Old 09-11-2013, 10:50 AM   #10
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Soooo...

If I were to get my information about Chinese scoots only from this thread, I would be forced to conclude that:

They will explode if ridden on the interstate for X amount of time.

That ~$2000 initial purchase price will quickly skyrocket and eventually exceed the $6500+ initial purchase price of a "name brand" scoot.

Anyone who purchases a Chinese scoot is mentally suspect and shows poor decision making abilities.

Good thing I know better that to listen to you guys!
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Old 09-11-2013, 11:06 AM   #11
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Soooo...

If I were to get my information about Chinese scoots only from this thread, I would be forced to conclude that:

They will explode if ridden on the interstate for X amount of time.

That ~$2000 initial purchase price will quickly skyrocket and eventually exceed the $6500+ initial purchase price of a "name brand" scoot.

Anyone who purchases a Chinese scoot is mentally suspect and shows poor decision making abilities.


Good thing I know better that to listen to you guys!
That's funny. Please Sir show me where any of that was said.
"me thinks thou dost protest too much"

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:57 PM   #12
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A guy I work with has an Icebear 50cc bike and was claiming his bike could do 45mph. I knew better and showed him what a real 45mph is. He was long in the dust when I hit 50.

The best part is his speedo then broke!
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:18 PM   #13
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Chinese scooters do have their place, but it is not on the interstate. There is a guy who works at a gas station/convenience store not far from my workplace who has been riding the same 150cc "Velocity" Chinese scooter now for almost 3 years, and says he has had very few issues with it. Says he paid around $800 OTD. I'll take a look next time I see it and see how many miles is on it. I assume he uses it only around town, but that is still awfully cheap transportation. A bus pass costs $60 a month, and you have to deal with their schedule and where the bus stops are. That scooter is way cheaper in the long run.

OTOH, a Japanese or Taiwanese scooter, while they are very reliable, will still cost more to own and operate than a car. You will be lucky to get 50,000 miles out of a Japanese 125. You can buy a Honda Fit car for $15000 with automatic and A/C that will last 300,000 miles. People who buy scooters to save money don't look at the overall picture. Scooters are fun, and that's what I use mine for. A car is far better for transportation.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:09 PM   #14
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Soooo...
That ~$2000 initial purchase price will quickly skyrocket and eventually exceed the $6500+ initial purchase price of a "name brand" scoot.
Where do you get $6500+ from?

Last year I bought a 2012 SYM HD200 EVO for $3400 cash out the door. I guarantee that scooter will outperform any "Chinese 300" and get better gas mileage to boot. My wife and I rode that scooter more than 5000 miles all over New Mexico and Arizona in less than a year.
It was absolutely bulletproof and a few times we ran it at 75 mph (two-up with gear and tools) for extended distances in 100 degree desert heat.

I sold it for more money than the initial purchase price you mentioned. The gentleman that bought it comes to this forum sometimes and that $3400 scooter still runs perfectly with zero issues. How's that for quality and value?
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:15 PM   #15
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That's funny. Please Sir show me where any of that was said.
"me thinks thou dost protest too much"

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Not directly said, but inferred by (mostly) your own self.... Yes I stretched it a bit for effect.

And you've protested WAY more in this thread than have I. So...

The OP just posted up about his Chinese scoot. Obviously he knows something of their reputation else he probably wouldn't have went to all the trouble to show that it was highway capable (would anyone bother doing the same with a Honda etc..?). What did he get? His new scoot slammed because it's Chinese made.. Nice! In a dickheaded sort of way...
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