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Old 12-15-2011, 01:48 PM   #16
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That first bike, of course, is an Aermacchi,

http://www.aermacchi-world.de/

http://www.aermacchi.it/

They've moved on. So should HD.

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Old 12-15-2011, 02:46 PM   #17
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Not a bad start. Now, make the forks a little more upright, raise the rear end for a bit more travel/sharper handling, and switch to a single rear shock. A 750 twin needs to make minimum 90 hp to be competitive. HD could do pretty well in the naked streetbike segment if they wanted to.
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:16 PM   #18
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A 90HP 750cc Harley?

Steep rake, high rear, sharp handling, mono shock. The anti-harley, hey that's what they could call it.
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:25 PM   #19
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A 90HP 750cc Harley?
I'm honestly not that familiar with HD horsepower numbers. Are you saying that is too low, or too high.

I just threw out that number because my 750 v-twin makes 92 hp, and is considered slightly underpowered. It seems fairly zippy to me though, at 410 lbs. That bike looks like it could be under 475 lbs.

Other brands, such as Yamaha, make models that are very different, so why not? I couldn't think of two more different bikes than the R6 and the V-Star.

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Old 12-15-2011, 06:17 PM   #20
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If the 750 makes it into production and can come in under 7 grand, it'll sell like hotcakes.
Here is the only article I can find about this bike, but it doesn't say anything other than that the "experts" think it will come in a 500 cc model as well as a 750 cc model. Designed by a firm in Italy, although of course the v-twin is a Harley motor (not that there is anything wrong with that). Article says it will be a Buell Blast replacement, and will be a more affordable entry bike to draw in a younger generation of buyers.

So long as the final product looks like this or similar and has typical Harley quality as of late (this will be made in India according to the article) I wouldn't mind buying it. Unless of course it is putting out 50 HP. That would be much too low in my opinion for a 750 cc bike. All speculation at this point though, unless Dakez or some of the other HD employees can shed some light on this without getting fired.

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Old 12-15-2011, 06:23 PM   #21
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I'm honestly not that familiar with HD horsepower numbers. Are you saying that is too low, or too high.

I just threw out that number because my 750 v-twin makes 92 hp, and is considered slightly underpowered. It seems fairly zippy to me though, at 410 lbs. That bike looks like it could be under 475 lbs.

Other brands, such as Yamaha, make models that are very different, so why not? I couldn't think of two more different bikes than the R6 and the V-Star.
From browsing the web, the XR1200X seems to make 90 HP, and that is a 1200 cc motor. Ducati's 1100 v-twin engine puts out between 95-100. I don't think the 750 would be that high.
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:34 PM   #22
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From browsing the web, the XR1200X seems to make 90 HP, and that is a 1200 cc motor. Ducati's 1100 v-twin engine puts out between 95-100. I don't think the 750 would be that high.
The HD and Duc Monster 1100 are air cooled.

Perhaps HD could embrace technology from last century.


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I'm honestly not that familiar with HD horsepower numbers. Are you saying that is too low, or too high.

I just threw out that number because my 750 v-twin makes 92 hp, and is considered slightly underpowered. It seems fairly zippy to me though, at 410 lbs. That bike looks like it could be under 475 lbs..
I don't know about weight, a sporty is well over 500lb for reference.

As far as HP, a 96in. twin cam puts out maybe 70hp, so 90 from a 750 is unlikely.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:01 PM   #24
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Harley is looking into building a lighter, cheaper entry level bike.

What do you think? Done right I would buy.

Trail-entry level bike by Harley......they would sell like hot cakes.


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Old 12-15-2011, 09:17 PM   #25
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. A 750 twin needs to make minimum 90 hp to be competitive.
Why? Seriously, why do you think or believe this?

By "competitive" do you mean racing?

The Moto Guzzi V7 744cc 49 hp. AWESOME BIKE!

Triumph Bonneville 865cc. 55 hp another Awesome bike.

What is this competition of which you speak? You do not NEED 90 hp.
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What is this competition of which you speak?
I think it refers to the press release mentioned earlier about people born after 1970 purchasing Harleys.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:39 PM   #27
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All speculation at this point though, unless Dakez or some of the other HD employees can shed some light on this without getting fired.
My best guess is June for the more detailed press releases to begin rolling out. The little bikes may just be overshadowed by something else to keep the so called "purists" distracted enough to overlook them.

I have no super secret insider information to give. Only that HD is very good at keeping things under their hat and quite masterful at milking the rumors for all they are worth to build the suspense and hype. The rumors will continue to be carefully leaked and slowly build to a crescendo with full press releases early Summer.

Keep in mind that HD is not known as a huge gambler. If they feel the timing is not right they will table a launch until such a time they think it best to be released. They have been known to scrap things all together.

Personally I want them to launch this:


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Old 12-15-2011, 10:08 PM   #28
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Personally I want them to launch this:







They could start by at least bringing back the Roadsters.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:17 PM   #29
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They could start by at least bringing back the Roadsters.

Why? So nobody would buy them again?

As much as you or I personally may like them they did NOT do well so far as sales numbers go. They were not a dismal failure but they did not do as well as they had hoped for.

The reason I want the three wheeler launched is

1. It leans when you turn
2. It will not fall over in the snow
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:48 PM   #30
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The reasonI want the three wheeeler launched is

1. It leans when you turn
2. It will not fall over in the snow

Ural. The awesomeness of a Ural is enough to sacrifice the leaning part. Besides, you can fly the chair.
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